Help researching René Bouvier and his wife

Question

I've been stuck on this couple for a few months now, and cannot find any solid information on them at all other than the 1901 census, which is really difficult to read.  

From the 1901 census, I know that he immigrated from France in 1883, which means he likely married Emilie Lafrance (Lafrance-561) around 1883-1884.  

There's an Anna Bouvier living with Emilie's parents in the 1891 census, which I believe is their daughter.  The census says she was born around 1885, but I have yet to find a record to confirm this.

As for René's death, I believe I have the record, and it's attached to his profile, but I've said the date is uncertain as I'm unsure if it's actually him or not.

Emilie remarried to Guillaume Dugas in 1923, and that's the last record I have of her.  I can't find a solid death record for her, though I did find an Emilie Pinel who died September 1, 1925 in Roberval and lists a René Bouvier as her deceased spouse, although I am unsure why they would list René when she was married to Guillaume, which is why I hesitate to say it's her.  There are two other records of an Emilie Lafrance dying in 1925 and 1926 in Montréal, but I cannot confirm those are her either.

I have included all the information I have on both René and Emilie on their profiles if anyone wants to take a look.

Answer 1

the 1901 census shows Anna Bouvier as born in France, and has the unusual notation ''Protégé'' about her.  She is listed as 6 years old.

The marriage between Émilie Pinel dite Lafrance, widow of René Bouvier, and Guillaume Dugas lists her parents, who are the same people as the 1901 census shows Anna Bouvier living with.  So that one checks.

Émilie Pinel, widow of the late René Bouvier, died 1 September 1925 and was buried on the 3rd in Roberval (Notre-Dame-du-Lac-St-Jean parish), the record giving her 52 years of age.  Not sure how she winds up in the Lac Saint-Jean area, the age is off by about 10 years from the dob you have for her.  But that is not unusual.  Also not unusual that she only gets the first husband's name on the record, depends on the knowledge of the people who gave the info to the priest.  https://www.genealogiequebec.com/membership/voir.aspx?id=H%3a%2fRegistres%2fQu%c3%a9bec%2fFonds+Drouin%2fR%2fRoberval%2fRoberval+(Notre-Dame-du-Lac-St-Jean)%2f1920%2f1925%2fd1p_30831236.jpg  image from Drouin collection (membership needed)

I suggest you tag France on this, René Bouvier is a sculptor, maybe he left other traces there.  But I suspect the marriage happened in France as well as the daughter's birth.

Comments

René Bouvier, husband of ''Julie'' Lafrance, died 4 April 1920 and was buried on the 6th in Montréal, recorded in Notre-Dame records.  Given the age of 61 years, profession ''Modeleur'', which can also be taken as sub-trade of sculptor.  The witnesses signing are clerks.   https://www.genealogiequebec.com/membership/voir.aspx?id=H%3a%2fRegistres%2fQu%c3%a9bec%2fFonds+Drouin%2fMtl%2fCatholique%2fMontr%c3%a9al+(Basilique+Notre-Dame)%2f1920%2f1920%2fS%c3%a9pultures/d1p_1126a1036.JPG image from Drouin collection (membership)

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I've gone ahead and tagged France as well.  I'm beginning to think it's highly possible that they went back to France for awhile as well.  My other theory is that they married in the United States, since René immigrated through New York.  Émilie's sister had immigrated to Minnesota around this time, so maybe I'll start looking around there.

Answer 2

Update - No my mistake, not your family I dont think. 

I think this is the family in the 1911 Census. Emilie is listed as Elinor. Husband above her looks like a bad spelling of Rene. b. 1857 occupation "Chef" (whoops not occupation, head of house?) which seems a match. 

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/1911/Pages/item.aspx?itemid=8159682

Comments

nope, Aimé Bouvier, cultivateur (farmer).  born in Québec, not the same man

Answer 3

But here is his immigration record  - 1883 Occupation Sculptor

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDSL-CP7

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVPF-WXK2

Comments

in transit through New york by himself, unfortunately the column headings on the 2nd record are missing to know what many of them stand for.  But most definitely appears to be him.

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Looks like the columns left to right stand for:

Name | Age | Sex | Occupation | Country of Origin | Destination | Compartment they Occupied on the Ship | Number of baggage | Citizenship status

This definitely looks like him, though the information given isn't very helpful.  Although it does tell us that his original destination seems to be America.

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You just have to page back a bit to see the start of the document. And then I paged back to another manifest to get the column names

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-5B9K-1P?i=174&cc=1849782

Ship: S. S. Amerique sailed from Havre to New York, arriving Port of New York on Nov 20, 1883.

Columns;

| No | Name| Age -Year|Month | Sex | Occupation or Calling| The Country of which they are Citizens | Intended Destination or Location | Date and Cause of Death | Location of Compartment or Space each Occupied | No of Pieces of Baggage | Transient or Intransient |

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good to know if I ever run into this again, thanks.