Comments on Renfrey Arundel

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For at least four years, the profile of Sir Renfrey has been in question, but without response from the manager, possibly because it appears they do not have certification for pre-1500 profiles. Can we pitch in and tidy it up?

The sources I have seen have the Sir Remfry/Renfrid who married Joan Coleshull/Coleshill as son of Sir John and Eleanor/Annora Lambourne which would make him the same person as Arundell-82. Does anyone know what if there is evidence for different parentage? Also, the birthplace should be redacted, as previous commenters have noted.

On 20 Dec 2020 Malc Rowlands wrote on Arundel-93:

Sir Renfrey was born 1396 Lanherne Manor, St Colomb Major, Cornwall, England and died 24.6.1443 in Cornwall, England, married 1421 in Cornwall, England. (Arundel - 82). Is the father correct for Renfrey, is this Renfrey the son of Sir John Arundel 1366 - 1435? I wrote a long verified comment (still have the notes) and then deleted the same when I thought I had the wrong person!!!! I have since realised my comments were perhaps correct when completing my tree profile on Sir John/Lady Annora. The verified sources for this comment questioning the parents included the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, Jackson and Hughes Genealogical Collections, Stows Manuscripts and the Cornwall Records Office. Is it possible the Richardson files have been misinterpreted to link Renfrey with the profile parents?

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in Genealogy Help by Monica Kanellis G2G6 Mach 3 (38.6k points)

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There seem to have been two different Renfrey/Renfrew Arundells. One had died by 1455 and his widow had married John Nanfan. the other was still alive in 1468. These are indexed in Common Pleas:

1432 Arundell, Renfrew, of Antony, esquire
https://waalt.uh.edu/index.php/CP40/685

1437 Arundell, Renfrew, knight

https://waalt.uh.edu/index.php/CP40/705

1455 Nanfan, John, esq; Joan his wife, widow of Arundell, Renfrew, knight

https://waalt.uh.edu/index.php/CP40/776

1460 Arundell, Renfrew, of Egloyshayll, esq

https://waalt.uh.edu/index.php/IDXCP40no799

1468 Arundell, Renfrew, knight
https://waalt.uh.edu/index.php/CP40/826

by Living Mead G2G6 Mach 7 (73.2k points)

Here they are in the Visitation of Cornwall

Sir John, died in 1433
His son, Sir Renfrey, named in his father's will
His son, Sir Renfrey, died in 1468

https://ukga.org/browse.php?action=ViewRec&DB=13&bookID=232&pagecount=6&submit=Next


And in close rolls
1433 John Arundell knight to Renfrid Arundell his son and to his heirs.
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=inu.32000007750286&view=page&seq=257

 

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