Could this be a New Sweden or New Netherlands settler?

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The unsourced details claim he is born in Finland, his son is born in USA and both have wives with dutch sounding names. The son married 1693.
 
The whole family would need sources and more details.
WikiTree profile: Johnson Hendricks
in Genealogy Help by Juha Soini G2G6 Pilot (120k points)
It's possible that these people are supposed to be New Netherland settlers, but it looks to me like they were born in somebody's genealogy software. There are 5 generations with no sources and with almost no information.
Well expressed, Ellen, "born in somebody's genealogy software".
After looking at what Jim kindly provided from New Sweden, I think that the reality background to this line, as far as it exists, points to New Netherlands, rather than to New Sweden, particularly because of the name form Hendricks and the Dutch wives.

It may have been extended back in time a generation or two or a few from where reality starts - and then capped with a founding father from Finland, because, well it won't really be possible to check that, will it?
I'm skeptical of a New Netherland connection, since these people are shown giving their children the father's surname of Hendricks (a patronymic name) in the 1600s, when that population was using patronymics in the traditional fashion.

The first places where this string of people starts connecting to profiles with semi-solid information seem to be in Pennsylvania.
Well, the Swedes would also have been using patronymics. The surname of the line from Johnson Hendricks seems to have been back-projected from the semi-solid John Hendricks who went from Pennsylvania to Ohio.

I would say the answer to Juha's question, Could this be a New Sweden or New Netherlands settler? is that there is too little anchoring in reality for the profile for it to be anything. It seems to be very, very loosely based on the family that Jim Angelo mentions below, and then grafted on to another line, of probably Dutch origin.

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I have a research subscription to MyHeritage, and, of course, this line exists there, too - sourced from Ancestry and WikiTree. I think the original of Hendricks-533 was a crippled export from MyHeritage.

I went three steps down from the Johnson Hendricks in your question and (with a shudder at performing such an act) put in dates and places from one of the other versions at Myheritage on https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hendricks-528 - just in order to see if there were duplicates. Of course there are. Some of the other versions (at MyHeritage there are several) have Hendrickson instead of Hendricks.

It might be possible to figure out what the line back to Hendricks-533 was supposed to be, befor the mix-and-match. The question is if it's worth it.
by Eva Ekeblad G2G6 Pilot (576k points)
Perhaps I should revert the change - it might make things look too certain.
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If we look at the wife, Albertse-5 might be a duplicate of Albertse-2. Though I have no idea how common a name like Femmetje Albertse might be.. it might just be like Anna Johansdotter i Sweden. 

Same with son's wife, Gottshall-10 and Gottshall-20 might be duplicates althought the dates/years don't add up with the different generations. But if it is a mix n' match with leaves from Ancestry or "born in somebodys genealogy software" problem it could still be the same person.

Hendricks-528 actually have a match with matching dates, Hendricks-955.

Edit: I added some unmerged matches, the names needs to be sorted out before merging, hopefully someone from New Netherlands project can help.

by Maggie Andersson G2G6 Pilot (151k points)
edited by Maggie Andersson

The matching dates and locations between Hendricks-528 and Hendricks-955 is my work, since I took dates and places for Hendricks-528 from MyHeritage in order to be able to search for matches, which of course there were. I left them in place, because the rest of the family also looked as if they were dredged out of the same stew. At MyHeritage you get serveral versions; it might be possible to figure out a demarcation line between truth and invention by comparing the trees.

I doubt the match between the Femmetje Albertses, they don't seem to be in the same generation.

Well, the way that the line from Johnson Hendricks has been put together from bits and pieces found online, there is no evidence for the name of the wife of this "Finn" with the malformed name - he wouldn't have had a -son name as a first name.

I think https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Albertse-5 has been hijacked from a different tree, possibly based on https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Albertse-2 (who is very well made on WikiTree).
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Glad to see these additional posts.  I took a look to see if  this tangle might fit with any of Peter Craig's  New Sweden families.  The nearest that I could find does not, of course, match the mish-mashed names, but does document some Hendricksons.

I. "Among those who survived the voyage (of the Örnen, arrived Ft. Christina on 22 May 1654)  were Johan Hendricksson and his sons, Hendrick and Johan Johansson. The father was sick on arrival, but still living in September 1655 when he signed an affidavit describing the surrender of Fort Trinity to the Dutch. He made a purchase of linen and sewant (wampum) from a Dutch trader on the Delaware in April 1657, but he is lost from the record thereafter."

II. Hendrick Johansson owned at least 600 acres of land, and died by November 1676 and was survived by three minor sons: Johan, Anders and Matthias. Johan and Anders each occupied shares of their father's land when they reached majority.

III Anders Hendricksson died in late summer 1722, leaving his wife Brigitta and children John, Peter, Gabriel, Maria, Christina and Rebecca. The sons were subsequently known as Hendricksson or Hendrickson.

IV John Hendrickson reached majority by 1726, married Magdalena and became head of household. His known children are Isaac and Gabriel.  His brother Peter married Catharina Lock.

Of course, Johan was eventually anglicized to John and Anders frequently became Andrew.
by Jim Angelo G2G6 Mach 6 (63.3k points)
The only possibility I see here is to align "Johnson" Hendricks-533 with my Hendrick Johansson, and then John Hendricks-532 matches Hendricks' son Johan. (But of course, any of Johan's sons were Johansson).
Thanks Jim.

I do think this family may be the initial material for these profiles.

Just let med check: III and IV are both sons of II in the family you found, aren't they?
III is Johan Hendricksson (son of II)-- his sons all retained Hendricks(s)on as family name.

IV is the son of III
Ah, Thanks.
See - I needed that clarification ;-)
Furthermore, that part of the direct line ends there. Shortly after the death of IV John Hendrickson, his youngest son Gabriel died.  The remaining son Isaac was 5 years old.  Isaac Hendrickson eventually married Margaret Nethermark, but they had no children.

Of course, there are other Hendricksson's in the area by this time, available to be conflated into one family.
That is of course a difficulty.

On the other hand it makes it more important to sort out the false connections made.
The profile for my number I is Johan Hendricksson-5.  No descendants are currently linked.
Very nice profile and deserves to be PPP.

Nowadays, though, a PPPed profile should have the protecting project as a co-manager.

As for Hendricks-533 et. al, I think the timing between generations looks wrong when comparing to your Hendricksson-5 with descendants. I was in the middle of something completely different, though, so I may not have the necessary concentration right now.
Now that I have compared your Johan Hendricksson and his line with the line from "Johnson Hendricks" I don't think they have anything to do with each other.
I agree.  I brought it up as the only prospective match I could identify in New Sweden.
On second thoughts, after spending way too much time comparing versions of this line here and on FamilySearch, I do think that the Johan Hendricksson line was the inspiration for Johnson Hendricks'es line, after all. Just that it's too distorted after its travel through the mills of online ancestry production to be of any use.

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