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Adeliza (Beaumont) de Grandmesnil (abt. 1040 - 1091)

Adeliza "Adélaïde, Aélis" de Grandmesnil formerly Beaumont aka de Beaumont, de Stuteville
Born about in Beaumont, Sur Risle, Francemap
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Wife of — married 1050 [location unknown]
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Died at about age 51 in Rouen, Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, Francemap
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Biography

Adelaide was the mother of only four children with Robert d’Estouteville , II.

They were the decandants in the English branches of de Cottenham (Cottingham) et Gressenhall.

  1. Robert III d’Estouteville (de Stuteville)
  2. Jean (John) d’Estouteville
  3. Nicolas d’Estouteville who stayed in France.
  4. Emma (Emme) d’Estouteville (de Stuteville) who married Erard, seigneur d’Harcourt ; then, 2) Hugh (alias Robert) de Grantmesnil [1]

Sources

  1. Pgs. 1 and 21. Famille d'Estouteville
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Adeliza never marred d'Estoutville - he married Jean Talbot and had one child, Nicholas w/wife #1; nine children w/wife#2. -https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#RobertIIEstoutevilledied1138A

ROBERT [II] d’Estouteville, son of ROBERT [I] d’Estouteville & his wife Béatrice --- (-after Aug 1138). The Liber Vitæ of Durham names "Robertus de Stuteville, Beatrix uxor eius, Robertus, Graulfus, Willelmus filii eorum…"[265]. Domesday Descendants suggests that these entries refer to Robert [I] de Stuteville and his family[266]. Orderic Vitalis names "…Rodbertus juvenis de Stotevilla…" among those who defended the castle of Saint-Pierre-sur-Dive and were captured, dated to [1106][267]. Simeon of Durham names "…Robertus de Stuthavilla…" among the leaders of the English contingent at the battle of the Standard (dated to Aug 1138)[268].

[m firstly (before 1106) JEANNE Talbot, daughter of [HUGUES Talbot Baron de Cleuville & his wife Marie de Meulan]. Morandière states that "Robert II le jeune d’Estouteville" married "avant le désastre de Tinchebray…Jehanne Talebot heritière de l’aisné des surnommés Talebot, barons de Cleuville", naming her grandfather "Richard Talebot…compagnon de son voisin Grondebœuf à Hastings" but not her father, adding that she died early leaving a son "Nicholas d’Estouteville"[269]. La Roque names Jeanne as older daughter of the parents named above and records her marriage[270]. The primary sources which confirm this information have not been identified. Until such sources emerge, it is suggested that these supposed persons should be treated with caution.]

m [secondly] ERNEBURG, daughter of ---. Her marriage is confirmed by the undated charter under which her son "Robertus de Stutevilla" confirmed donations to Rievaulx of "terram de Houetona", for the souls of "Roberti de Stutevilla avi mei et Roberti patris mei et Erneburgæ matris meæ et Helewisæ uxoris meæ"[271]. Clay highlights unsustainable theories regarding her family origin but concludes that there is no evidence to prove her parentage[272].

Robert [II] & his [first wife] had [one child]: Robert [II] & his [second] wife had [nine] children:

posted by Sharon Richards
Thanks Sharon, I'll try to update Adeliza's biography and remove any reference to the Estouteville family soon.

However Medieval Lands, also has a few errors and is relying on some poor information (he even states that primary evidence to confirm the details has not been found) so it shouldn't necessarily be followed either.

posted by John Atkinson
Does anyone have any evidence for Adeliza's marriage to Robert d'Estouteville. When researching her son Hugh, nothing emerged to say she had been married twice.
posted by John Atkinson
Also married twice by age 10? MAY BE WIFE NOT MOTHER OF ROBERT II
De Beaumont-435 and Beaumont-19 appear to represent the same person because: maybe same
posted by Darrell Parker

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