Roger (Toeni) de Toeni (1156 - bef. 1209)

Born 1156 in Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England

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Died before 1209 before age 53 in Stratfield, England

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Title of Roger de Tony (Royal Ancestry):

Seigneur of Conches, Acquigny, Nogent-le-Roi, Portes and Toeni (now Tosny) (in Normandy)

ROGER [IV] de Tosny, son of RAOUL [V] de Tosny & his wife Marguerite de Beaumont (-after 29 Dec 1208).

Robert of Torigny records that "parvulo filio" succeeded in 1162 on the death of his father "Radulfus de Toene" but does not name him. Seigneur de Tosny. “Rogerus de Tony” donated property to Flamstead Abbey, Hertfordshire, for souls of “…uxoris meæ Constantiæ”, by undated charter[118]. The Red Book of the Exchequer, listing scutage payments in [1194/95], names "Rogerus de Tony" paying "xl s" in Sussex.

m (before 22 Sep 1199) CONSTANCE de Beaumont, daughter of RICHARD [I] Vicomte de Beaumont-au-Maine & his wife Lucie de Laigle (-2 Oct 1236 or after). “Rogerus de Tony” donated property to Flamstead Abbey, Hertfordshire, for the souls of “…uxoris meæ Constantiæ”, by undated charter[120].

King John confirmed grant of "Aielrichescote…in Devonia in parochia de Sustauton", made by King Henry I to "Constancie filie sue et avie…predicte Constancie in liberum maritagium", to "Constancie de Toen filie Ric vic de Bellomonte consanguinee nostre" by charter date 22 Sep 1199. The Red Book of the Exchequer records "uxor quæ fuit Rogeri de Toeni quæ habet custodiam hæredis" holding one knight´s fee "Stantford in hundredo de Caudone" in Wiltshire in [1210/12][122].

The Testa de Nevill includes a writ of King John dated 1212 which records that "Constancia de Touny" held "manerium de Suthtaut" in Devon, which King Henry I had granted to "Roscelino de Bello Monte in maritagium cum Constancia filia sua", adding that later "Ricardus de Bello Monte filius Roscelini" had granted the manor to "Rogero de Tony in maritagium cum Constancia filia sua"[123]. The necrology of Angers Cathedral records the death "VI Non Oct" of "Constantia de Togné soror Guillelmi de Bellomonte episcopi nostri et mater Richardi de Togné thesaurarius nostri"[124].

Roger [IV] & wife CONSTANCE de Beaumont had 4 children:

RAOUL [VI] de Tosny of Castle Maud, Radnorshire (-[29 Sep 1239]). The Testa de Nevill lists knights who held land from the king in Hertfordshire, dated to [1204/12]: "Radulfus de Tony" held land "in Flamstede"[125].

The Red Book of the Exchequer records "Radulfus de Toany" holding property "Flamstede" in Essex, and four knights´ fees and parts "in Estham, Rudmerlega, La Bereve, Warneslega, La More, Scravelega, Sendeslega" in Worcestershire in [1210/12][126]. Henry III King of England granted property "Radulfo de Thoeny", which King John had granted to "Rogero de Thoeny patri ipsius Radulfi", dated 11 Jun 1229.

m (Sep [1232/34]) as her first husband, PERNEL de Lacy, daughter of WALTER de Lacy Lord of Meath & his wife [Margery de Briouse] (-after 25 Oct 1288). She married secondly (before 15 Oct 1256) Guillaume de Saint-Omer. Raoul [VI] & his wife had two children:

a) ROGER [V] de Tosny (29 Sep 1235-[10 Jun 1263/14 May 1264]). A writ dated 18 Jun "48 Hen III", after the death of "Roger de de Tony alias de Thony", lists his manors but does not name his heirs[128]. m firstly ALICE de Bohun, daughter of HUMPHREY de Bohun Earl of Hereford & his wife Mathilde de Valence (-bur Llanthony Priory).

A manuscript which narrates the descents of the founders of Lanthony Abbey names “Matildis..Alicia” as the first two of the four daughters of “Henricus [mistake for Humfredus] quintus de Bohun comes Hereford et Essex et constabularius Angliæ et dominus Henricus de Bohun” and his wife “Matildem filiam comitis de Ewe in Normannia”, adding that Alice married “domino de Thonye” and was buried at Lanthony[129]. A manuscript in Aske´s collections names “…the Ladi Alice of Tonny daughter of Humfre of Bohum the vth…” among those buried at Lanthony Priory[130].

m.2 (before 1255) ISABEL, dau of --- (-after Feb 1265). Issue: 1 child

1. RAOUL [VII] de Tosny (1255-before 29 Jul 1295). m (before 1276) MARY (-after 1283); 3 children:

ROBERT de Tosny (Thornby, Scotland 4 Apr 1276-before 28 Nov 1309).

He was summoned to parliament in 1299, whereby he is held to have become Lord Tosny/Tony. m (contract 28 Apr 1293, after 2 May 1293) MATILDA of Strathearn, dau of MALISE Earl of Strathearn & wife Agnes Comyn (-1340/48]).

A charter dated 2 May 1293 records the recognisance of "Radulpho de Tony…versus Malisium comitem de Stratherne" (respecting his marriage, although the document does not specify that this is the case)[131].

dau m (1 Mar 1295) ROBERT Tybetot, (-1 Mar 1295/1 Mar 1297]).

ALICE de Tosny ([1282/85]-[7 Nov 1324/8 Jan 1325]).

m1 THOMAS de Leyburn (-before 30 May 1307).

m2 (12 Jan/28 Feb] 1310) GUY de Beauchamp Earl of Warwick, son of WILLIAM de Beauchamp Earl of Warwick & his wife Maud FitzJohn ([1270/71]-Warwick 28 Jul 1315).

m3 ([26 Oct 1315/25 Feb 1317]) as his first wife, WILLIAM La Zouche Lord Zouche of Mortimer, son of ROBERT de Mortimer of Richard´s Castle, Herefordshire & his wife Joyce la Zouche (-28 Feb 1337, bur Tewkesbury Abbey).

b) CONSTANCE de Tosny (-aft 11 Feb 1266) m [his second wife,] FULK [IV] FitzWarin, son of FULK [III] FitzWarin & first wife Matilda le Vavasour (-killed in battle Lewes 14 May 1264). 2. ROGER de Tosny (-Reading Jan [1227/28]). 3. RICHARD de Tosny (-1252). 4. [MARGUERITE de Tosny (-16/17 Jan after 1246). [132]m [as his third wife,]

MALCOLM Macduff Earl of Fife, son of DUNCAN Macduff Earl of Fife & his wife Ada/Ela --- (-1228, bur Culross [Kilenross] Abbey[133]).]

Chronology for Roger IV and Constance

Chronology Lord Roger de Toeni and Constance de Beaumont and Ralph and Pernel de Lacy

12/19/1154, Henry II crowned king of England.

~1155, Roger born in England, s/o Ralph V de Tony and Margaret de Beaumont.

1162, Roger heir to his father.

~1170, Constance de Beaumont, d/o Richard de Beaumont.

8/6/1173, King Henry of England advances his army to Conches to relieve the siege of Verneuil.

11/3/1189, Richard I crowned king of England.

~1190, Ralph born in England, s/o Roger de Toeni and Constance de Beaumont.

1190, Roger de Tony joined King Richard on his crusade to the Holy Land.

7/1190, The English and French armies met at Lyons; where they learned that the German Emperor, leading his forces to the crusade, had died in an accident.

1191, King Richard captured the city of Messina, Sicily, after they had refused to let the English ships land.

6/5/1191, Richard set sail for Acre. [French forces were already besieging the city.]

7/1191, King Richard captured Acre. [Many of the forces, especially the Germans, returned home.]

9/5/1191, Richard defeated Saladin at the battle of Arsuf. Roger is noted for his valor during this battle.

12/1191, Richard arrived at Beit Nuba, 12 miles from Jerusalem.

6/1192, Roger de Tony involved with the interception of a Saraven caraman at El-Khuweilfe.

9/2/1192, Richard made a 3-year truce with Saladin.

12/21/1192, Richard was captured near Vienna on his return from crusading.

6/1193, Roger de Tony visited King Richard in capitivity at Speyer, Germany.

1/1194, Roger de Tosny provided his 4-year-old son Roger as a hostage to effect the release of King Richard as a prisoner in Germany. Roger’s son was put in guardianship of his cousin the Count of Hainault. (S) Troubadour’s Song, Boyle, 2005, P222.

5/27/1199, John crowned king of England.

1204, Ralph, his father, and some of his brothers, excluded by King of France from terms of pacification in Normandy.

1208-9, Ralph’s father died.

1213, Pernel [als Petronilla] born in Ireland, d/o 19989748. Walter de Lacy & Margaret de Braose.

King John ordered Ralph’s lands of Saham and Ryhcot be restored to him.

10/28/1216, Henry III, age 9, crowned king of England at death of John.

6/27/1218, King John gave Ralph the manor of Newport at Essex.

1/1219, Pledges of Isabella de Mortimer to come to the Exchequer … and to hear judgement there: The earl of Salisbury. William Brewer. Osbert Gifford. Ralph de Tany. (S) FRsHIII.

6/18/1222, To sheriff of Essex . Order … manor of Newport with its appurtenances …, he is to cause his beloved and faithful Ralph de Tany to have the rent of the same manor …, with arrears from time at which he was seised of that manor. (S) FRsHIII.

8/29/1223, Order to sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk to place in respite demand that he makes from Ralph de Tany … for horses of value, palfreys and hawks … (S) FRsHIII.

9/22/1224, Order to sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk to place in respite demand he makes from Ralph de Tany … for horses, birds, and other debts … (S) FRsHIII.

9/20/1226, Order to sheriff of Norfolk to place in respite demand he makes from Ralph de Tany … for several scutages … (S) FRsHIII.

Ralph went overseas with king.

4/30/1230, Order to place in respite the demand of £77 12d. that they make from the king’s beloved and faithful Ralph de Tany …, for as long as Ralph will be with the king in overseas parts in his service by his order. (S) FRsHIII.

Ralph m. Pernel.

1233, Ralph and John de Monmouth were appointed generals of the Poitevin mercenaries in the Welch marches.

9/2/1234, Prohibition … tournament at Northamption … to go to … or any other … W. Longespe. … Ralph de Touny. Philip Basset. … Hugh Wake. John de Grey. Richard de Grey. (S) CPRs.

1235, Ralph de Toni taxed 8s. 4d. for a small fee in Carneton, Bluston, and Helveston in respect to aid granted on the marriage of the King’s sister Isabella to the Holy Roman Emperor Frederick. (S) Manor and Lordship of Blisland.

9/25/1237 at York, By treaty, Alexander II of Scotland asserted to Henry that he was owed Northumberland as dowry of Joanna. [Henry acknowledge a grant of Tynedale in Northumberland, as well as the Earldom of Chester.] … Radulpho de Thaeny … (S) POMS.

8/20/1238, … if Ralph de Thoeny recover the custody of the manors of Multon and Wilfirton, which are of his fee without the earldom, … (S) CPRs.

6/20/1239, The king has granted to Ralph de Tany that he is to have respite for 3 years … on account of his pilgrimage to the Holy Land , … from the debts he owes … (S) FRsHIII.

1239, Ralph died at sea while on crusade.

By 1/1241, News of the death of Ralph de Toeni reached England.

6/12/1241, The king has granted the below-written manors to Petronilla, who was the wife of Ralph de Tany , to have at farm until the legal age of Ralph’s heir, namely the manor of Flamstead in Hertfordshire for £50, the manor of Necton in Norfolk for £43 15½d., the manor of South Tawton in Devon for £37 8s. 1½d., and the manor of Kirtling in Cambridgeshire for £46 10s. 4d., … Petronilla will give the queen £40 at the same terms each year over and above the aforesaid farms … (S) FRsHIII.

3/28/1242, The king has given respite to Petronilla, who was the wife of Ralph de Tany , from the demand for £20 of the debts of Roger de Tany senior … (S) FRsHIII.

6/20/1251, Mandate to Pernell de Thoeny to deliver the castle [Painscastle] to him [H. de Boun, earl of Essex and Hereford]. (S) CPRs.

8/4/1251, Simple protection, until Christmas, for Pernell de Tony, gone on pilgrimage to Santiago. (S) CPRs.

5/17/1252, By the fine of £100 which Petronilla de Tany has made with him, of which she has paid 5 m. of silver in gold … the king has granted her that she might freely marry herself when and to whom she will wish. (S) FRsHIII.

Pernel married 2nd William de St. Omer.

10/15/1256, Mandate to William de Sancto Omero and Pernell de Thoeny his wife to restore to Roger de Thony, son and heir of Ralph de Thony, who is of full age and has done homage … his lands, charters, … in the keeping of the said Pernell. (S) CPRs.

5/16/1262, William de St. Omer and Petronilla, his wife, give half a mark for a pone. (S) FRsHIII.

4/4/1263, William de St. Omer and Petronilla, his wife, give half a mark for having a writ ad terminum at the Bench. (S) FRsHIII.

11/25/1288, Pernel living. (S) Magna Carta Ancestry, (S) Fenwick Allied Ancestry, Sellers, Teacher Genealogist Bond 007. Family notes:

• Henry III held the Castle of Launceston and all the County of Cornwall, as well in fee as in demesne. Henry gave the castle with its appurtenances to his brother Richard, King of the Romans with the manor of Bliston [Blisland]. The said Richard gave it to Ralph de Tony and his heirs, to hold of the said Earl in chief, and that William St. Omer then held it with Petronilla his wife, who had been the wife of the said Ralph, in the name of dower.

Children of Ralph and Pernel:

1. Constance de Tosny, born ~1230 in England.
2. Roger de Tony, born 9/29/1235 in England.

Name: Roger IV

Alias: Roger de Toeni

Title: Sir

• SRW 7th July 2011.ged on Jul 7, 2011 by Stephen Wilkinson.

Acrossthepond.ged on 21 February 2011. User ID: 0AD9F677A37C4369B294683B4FD36B0495DF

Birth: ABT 1156 Flamstead, Hertfordshire

Death: Jan 1208/9Place: Stratfield

Name: Roger /de TOENI (DE CONCHES)/ ^[1][2][3]

Birth: ABT 1156 Flamsted, HRT^[4]

Death: ABT JAN 1208/09^[5]

Marriage

Husband: Ralph de TOENI

Wife: Margaret de BEAUMONT

Child: Roger de TOENI

Marriage:

Date: AFT 1155^[6]

Sources

1. ↑ Source: #S2
2. ↑ Source: #S3
3. ↑ Source: #S4
4. ↑ Source: #S4
5. ↑ Source: #S4
6. ↑ Source: #S4

• "Royal Ancestry" 2013 by Douglas Richardson Vol. I. page 302-3
• Royal Ancestry 2013 Vol. V p. 171-173

They had three sons, Ralph, Knt., Roger, Knt., and Richard, [Treasurer of Angers], and one daughter, Margaret (wife of Malcolm, 6th Earl of Fife).

• Jun 20, 2011 by Michael Stephenson.
• Source: S2 Pedigree Resource File CD 49 Publication: (Salt Lake City, UT: Intellectual Reserve, Inc., 2002). Jun 20, 2011 by Michael Stephenson.
• Source: S2978Ancestral File Number. Jun 20, 2011 by Michael Stephenson.
• Source: S3 Ancestral File (TM) Author: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day SAINTS Publication: June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998 Repository: R1. Jun 20, 2011 by Michael Stephenson.
• Source: S4 Title: hofundssonAnces.ged Abbreviation: hofundssonAnces.ged Repo: R1. Jun 20, 2011 by Michael Stephenson.

Roger de Tosney, d. 1208

ROGER [IV] de Tosny, son of RAOUL [V] de Tosny & his wife Marguerite de Beaumont (-after 29 Dec 1208).

Robert of Torigny records that "parvulo filio" succeeded in 1162 on the death of his father "Radulfus de Toene" but does not name him[117]. Seigneur de Tosny. “Rogerus de Tony” donated property to Flamstead Abbey, Hertfordshire, for the souls of “…uxoris meæ Constantiæ”, by undated charter[118]. The Red Book of the Exchequer, listing scutage payments in [1194/95], names "Rogerus de Tony" paying "xl s" in Sussex[119].

m (before 22 Sep 1199) CONSTANCE de Beaumont, daughter of RICHARD [I] Vicomte de Beaumont-au-Maine & his wife Lucie de Laigle (-2 Oct 1236 or after). “Rogerus de Tony” donated property to Flamstead Abbey, Hertfordshire, for the souls of “…uxoris meæ Constantiæ”, by undated charter[120]. King John confirmed the grant of "Aielrichescote…in Devonia in parochia de Sustauton", made by King Henry I to "Constancie filie sue et avie…predicte Constancie in liberum maritagium", to "Constancie de Toen filie Ric vic de Bellomonte consanguinee nostre" by charter dated 22 Sep 1199[121]. The Red Book of the Exchequer records "uxor quæ fuit Rogeri de Toeni quæ habet custodiam hæredis" holding one knight´s fee "Stantford in hundredo de Caudone" in Wiltshire in [1210/12][122]. The Testa de Nevill includes a writ of King John dated 1212 which records that "Constancia de Touny" held "manerium de Suthtaut" in Devon, which King Henry I had granted to "Roscelino de Bello Monte in maritagium cum Constancia filia sua", adding that later "Ricardus de Bello Monte filius Roscelini" had granted the manor to "Rogero de Tony in maritagium cum Constancia filia sua"[123]. The necrology of Angers Cathedral records the death "VI Non Oct" of "Constantia de Togné soror Guillelmi de Bellomonte episcopi nostri et mater Richardi de Togné thesaurarius nostri"[124].

Roger [IV] & his wife CONSTANCE de Beaumont, had [four] children:

1. RAOUL [VI] de Tosny of Castle Maud, Radnorshire (-[29 Sep 1239]). The Testa de Nevill lists knights who held land from the king in Hertfordshire, dated to [1204/12]: "Radulfus de Tony" held land "in Flamstede"[125].

The Red Book of the Exchequer records "Radulfus de Toany" holding property "Flamstede" in Essex, and four knights´ fees and parts "in Estham, Rudmerlega, La Bereve, Warneslega, La More, Scravelega, Sendeslega" in Worcestershire in [1210/12][126]. Henry III King of England granted property "Radulfo de Thoeny", which King John had granted to "Rogero de Thoeny patri ipsius Radulfi", dated 11 Jun 1229[127].

m (Sep [1232/34]) as her first husband, PERNEL de Lacy, daughter of WALTER de Lacy Lord of Meath & his wife [Margery de Briouse] (-after 25 Oct 1288). She married secondly (before 15 Oct 1256) Guillaume de Saint-Omer. Raoul [VI] & his wife had two children:

a) ROGER [V] de Tosny (29 Sep 1235-[10 Jun 1263/14 May 1264]). A writ dated 18 Jun "48 Hen III", after the death of "Roger de de Tony alias de Thony", lists his manors but does not name his heirs[128]. m firstly ALICE de Bohun, daughter of HUMPHREY de Bohun Earl of Hereford & his wife Mathilde de Valence (-bur Llanthony Priory).

A manuscript which narrates the descents of the founders of Lanthony Abbey names “Matildis..Alicia” as the first two of the four daughters of “Henricus [mistake for Humfredus] quintus de Bohun comes Hereford et Essex et constabularius Angliæ et dominus Henricus de Bohun” and his wife “Matildem filiam comitis de Ewe in Normannia”, adding that Alice married “domino de Thonye” and was buried at Lanthony[129]. A manuscript in Aske´s collections names “…the Ladi Alice of Tonny daughter of Humfre of Bohum the vth…” among those buried at Lanthony Priory[130].

m secondly (before 1255) ISABEL, daughter of --- (-after Feb 1265).

Roger [V] & his second wife had one child:

i) RAOUL [VII] de Tosny (1255-before 29 Jul 1295). m (before 1276) MARY, daughter of --- (-after 1283). Raoul [VII] & his wife had three children:

(a) ROBERT de Tosny (Thornby, Scotland 4 Apr 1276-before 28 Nov 1309). He was summoned to parliament in 1299, whereby he is held to have become Lord Tosny/Tony. m (contract 28 Apr 1293, after 2 May 1293) MATILDA of Strathearn, daughter of MALISE Earl of Strathearn & his wife Agnes Comyn (-[1340/48]).

A charter dated 2 May 1293 records the recognisance of "Radulpho de Tony…versus Malisium comitem de Stratherne" (respecting his marriage, although the document does not specify that this is the case)[131].

(b) daughter . m ([1 Mar 1295]) ROBERT Tybetot, son of --- (-[1 Mar 1295/1 Mar 1297]).

(c) ALICE de Tosny ([1282/85]-[7 Nov 1324/8 Jan 1325]). m firstly THOMAS de Leyburn, son of --- (-before 30 May 1307). m secondly ([12 Jan/28 Feb] 1310) GUY de Beauchamp Earl of Warwick, son of WILLIAM de Beauchamp Earl of Warwick & his wife Maud FitzJohn ([1270/71]-Warwick 28 Jul 1315). m thirdly ([26 Oct 1315/25 Feb 1317]) as his first wife, WILLIAM La Zouche Lord Zouche of Mortimer, son of ROBERT de Mortimer of Richard´s Castle, Herefordshire & his wife Joyce la Zouche (-28 Feb 1337, bur Tewkesbury Abbey).

b) CONSTANCE de Tosny (-after 11 Feb 1266). m [as his second wife,] FULK [IV] FitzWarin, son of FULK [III] FitzWarin & his first wife Matilda le Vavasour (-killed in battle Lewes 14 May 1264). 2. ROGER de Tosny (-Reading Jan [1227/28]). 3. RICHARD de Tosny (-1252). 4. [MARGUERITE de Tosny (-16/17 Jan after 1246). [132]m [as his third wife,] MALCOLM Macduff Earl of Fife, son of DUNCAN Macduff Earl of Fife & his wife Ada/Ela --- (-1228, bur Culross [Kilenross] Abbey[133]).]