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Archibald Welch (1798 - 1879)

Archibald Welch
Born in Rutherford, North Carolina, United Statesmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married about 1818 in White, Tennessee, United Statesmap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 81 in Sparta, White, Tennessee, United Statesmap
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Biography

Archibald Welch was born in 1798 in Rutherford, North Carolina, United States.

His parents were Thomas Welch and Mary Ann Fleming.

Children:

Nancy Welch (1822–1890)

Lucinda Welch (1835–Death unknown)

Jasper Welch (1836–1913)

George Washington Welch (1838–Death unknown)

John Marion Welch (1843–1917)

Mahala Welch (1844–Death unknown)

Susan Welch (1846–Death unknown)​​

Sylvania Welch (1846–Death unknown)

Margaret Welch (1847–1928)

Emeline Welch (1849–Death unknown)

In 1850, he is living in White county, Tennessee, USA with wife, Stacey, children, Lucinda, Jasper, George, John Marion, Mahala, Susan, Margaret, he is listed as a Farmer in the 1850 census[1]

In 1860, he is living in White county, Tennessee, USA with wife, Rebecca, children, Mahala, Sylvania, Susan, Emeline, Margaret, he is listed as a Farmer in the 1860 census[2]

In 1870, he is living in White county, Tennessee, USA with wife, Rebecca, son, John Marion, a girl, Annie Welch, who was born in 1866, not sure who she is? he is listed as a Farmer in the 1870 census[3]

He died in 1879 in Sparta, White, Tennessee, United States

Research Notes

July 19th 1819[4], Deed of Gift was ordered to be recorded for 20 a. to Thomas Welch and "Marian" from John Welch, George Welch, Mark Whitacre, Isaac Welch, Archibald Welch, James Welch, Marianne Welch, and Margaret Welch. it was proven in open court by Polly Bohannon, "one of the Subscribing witnesses thereto for the purposes and things mentioned". What the "purpose and things" were ramains a mystery, since the deed is missing from the records.

January 18th 1820[5], Archibald Welch is found in White county, Tennessee, United states. The census lists the household as 1 male 16-26, 1 female under 10, and 1 female 16-26. Conjecture on household members except Archibald Welch and birth years are:

  1. 1 Male 16-26 (Archibald) (1794 - 1804)
  2. 1 Female under 10 (UNK1) (1810-1820)
  3. 1 Female 16-26 (wife - Lucy Davis Welch) (1794 - 1804)

Circa 1830[6], Archibald Welch is found in White county, Tennessee, United States, the census lists the household as 1 male 30-40, 1 female under 5, 3 females 5-10, 1 female 11-15.

Conjecture on household members except Archibald Welch and birth years are:

  1. 1 Male 30-40 (Archibald) (1790 -1800)
  2. 1 Female Under 5 (UNK4)(1825 - 1830)
  3. 3 Females 5-10 (UNK,2 UNK3, Nancy) (1820-1825)
  4. 1 Female 11-15 (UNK1) (1815 - 1819)

Lucy Davis Welch wife of Archibald Welch is said to have passed away around 1830[7], likewise the 1830 U.S. Census is clear that Archibald had 5 female children in his household, where the 1820 U.S. census lists two females where one is around the same age as Archibald and is believed to be his wife, Mary Lucinda Davis[8]known as Lucy Davis Welch.

Archibald and Lucy Davis Welch had the following children;

  1. Unknown female UNK1 (1815/19 - )
  2. Unknown female UNK2 (1820/25 - )
  3. Nancy (1822 - 1890[9]) m. 1840, William Causby Frazier
  4. Unknown female UNK3 (1820/25 - )
  5. Unknown female UNK4 (1825/30 - )

Circa 1834, Archibald Welch married Stacey McFadden, although no marriage record has been found, they are found together in future records.

Circa 1840[10], Archibald Welch is found in White county, Tennessee, United States, the census lists the household as 2 Males under 5, 1 male 30-40, 1 male 40-50, 1 female under 5, 1 female 30-40.

Conjecture on household members except Archibald Welch and birth years are:

  1. 2 Males under 5 (Jasper, George)(1835-1840)
  2. 1 Male 5 - 10 (unk)(1830-1835)
  3. 1 Male 30-40 (UNK) (1800 - 1810)
  4. 1 Male 40-50 (Archibald)(1790 - 1800)
  5. 1 Female under 5 (Lucinda) (1835 - 1840)
  6. 1 Female 30-40 (Stacey McFadden Welch)(1800 - 1810)

This record opens up a few questions such as who is the 30-40 year old unknown male in the houseold? Is the 5-10 year old unknown male a son of Archibald? or the 30-40 year old unknown male? where are and what happened to the unknown females from 1830 census?

August 1st 1850[11], Archibald Welch, farmer, aged 52 is found in District 2, White county, Tennessee, United States others listed in the household are; Stacy(40), Lucinda(15), Jasper(13), George(12), Morgan(10), Mahala(6), Susan(4), and Maragaret (0 or 2/12).

Morgan is believed to be Jon Marion Welch (1840 - 1917[12]), W. C. Welch lists Archibald as his father, but left mother unknown. Also list his birthyear as 1843.

Lucy Stacey McFadden is stated to have passed away circa 1853, as evidenced by the remarriage of Archibald Welch to Rebecca Sluder.

Archibald and Stacey Welch had the following children;

  1. Lucinda (1835 - )
  2. Jasper (1836 - 1913)
  3. George Washington (1838 - )
  4. Jon Marion (1843 - 1917[12])
  5. Mahala (1844 - )
  6. Susan (1846 - )
  7. Margaret (1847 - 1928[13])

January 5th 1855[14][15][16], Archibald Welch marries Rebecca Sluder in White county, Tennessee, United States.

There are no known children from the union of Archibald Welch and Rebecca Sluder.

June 11th 1860[17], A Welch, farmer, aged 62, is found in District 2, White county, Tennessee, United States, listed in the household are Rebecca(48), Mahaley(15), Sylvania(14), Susan(12), Emeline(11), and Margaret(10).

Sylvania and Emeline are not in the 1850 census with Archibald, they are not Archibalds children, but those of Mark W. and Rebecca Sluder[18] of Bledsoe county, Tennessee, United States. Rebecca Sluders maiden name is said to be Mcafee.

June 28th 1870[19], Archaba Welch, farmer, aged 72 is found in Civil District 2, White county, Tennessee, United States, in the household are Rebecca(58), John M(27), and Annie(4).

John M is believed to his son Morgan from the 1850 U.S. Census. Annie could be Archibalds granddaughter from John M, or his son Jasper who is living near by.

Archibald Welch married three times and had twelve children from two of his marriages. Only eight of those children have been identified.


Listed wives on Family Search

Mary Davis (1793–1830) who is listed as Nancy's mother

Lucy Stacey McPadden (1798–1853) who is listed as the mother of the remainder children, he married her on 4 January 1834 in White, Tennessee, United States

Rebecca Sluder (1812–Death unknown) he married her on 4 January 1855 in White, Tennessee, United States[20]

Children, Sylvania Welch' and Emeline Welch are not mention in the 1850 census so they may be his children but maybe Rebecca's

on his Find a Grave Memorial it has Lucy Davis Welch as his wife, so unsure if Mary and Lucy are 2 different people?

Sources

Archibald's Find a Grave Memorial

  1. Citation "United States Census, 1850," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MC6Q-7KJ : 23 December 2020), Archibald Welch, White, Tennessee, United States; citing family , NARA microfilm publication (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
  2. Citation"United States Census, 1860", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M8TY-R9Y : 18 February 2021), A Welch, 1860.
  3. Citation "United States Census, 1870", database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MD8D-3CS : 29 May 2021), Archaba Welch, 1870.
  4. Minutes of the White County Court
  5. "United States Census, 1820," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GYB8-FWS?cc=1803955&wc=3L7F-2VC%3A1586985102%2C1586986512%2C1586984616 : 16 July 2015), Tennessee > White > Not Stated > image 22 of 36; citing NARA microfilm publication M33, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
  6. "United States Census, 1830," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9YY8-91S4?cc=1803958&wc=35Y4-2VM%3A1588478503%2C1588470614%2C1588469601 : 14 August 2015), Tennessee > White > Not Stated > image 75 of 119; citing NARA microfilm publication M19, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
  7. Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/71496241/lucy-davis-welch: accessed 22 September 2022), memorial page for Lucy Davis Welch (1793–1830), Find a Grave Memorial ID 71496241, citing Davis Cemetery, White County, Tennessee, USA; Maintained by Theresa/Thunderbird584 (contributor 47100429) .
  8. as per discussion with Rosa Lee Austin in 1994
  9. Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/141455969/nancy-frasier: accessed 22 September 2022), memorial page for Nancy Welch Frasier (27 Jun 1822–1890), Find a Grave Memorial ID 141455969, citing Old Bon Air Cemetery, Bon Air, White County, Tennessee, USA; Maintained by Theresa/Thunderbird584 (contributor 47100429) .
  10. "United States Census, 1840," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9YB7-CHM?cc=1786457&wc=31S2-8LH%3A1588669927%2C1588666741%2C1588665902 : 24 August 2015), Tennessee > White > Not Stated > image 22 of 134; citing NARA microfilm publication M704, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
  11. "United States Census, 1850," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MC6Q-7KJ : 23 December 2020), Archibald Welch, White, Tennessee, United States; citing family , NARA microfilm publication (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
  12. 12.0 12.1 "Tennessee Deaths, 1914-1966," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N9TF-QZZ : 23 February 2021), Jno. Merrion Welch, 26 Dec 1917; Death, Clifty, White, Tennessee, United States, Tennessee State Library and Archives, Nashville.
  13. "Tennessee Deaths, 1914-1966," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NSDN-8ZB : 1 March 2021), Arch Welch in entry for Margret Measels, 17 Nov 1928; Death, Van Buren, Tennessee, United States, Tennessee State Library and Archives, Nashville.
  14. "Tennessee, White County Records, 1809-1975," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPQ6-J6JQ : 18 February 2021), Archibald Welch and Rebecca Sluder, 4 Jan 1854; citing Marriage, White, Tennessee, United States, Tennessee State Library and Archives, Nashville; FHL microfilm 005701167.
  15. "Tennessee State Marriage Index, 1780-2002," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VN4F-6BV : 4 December 2014), Archibald Welch and Rebecca Sluder, 04 Jan 1855; from "Tennessee State Marriages, 1780-2002," database and images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com : 2008); citing p. 49, White, Tennessee, United States, Tennessee State Library and Archives, Nashville, Tennessee.
  16. "Tennessee Marriages, 1796-1950", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XDQ1-WHQ : 22 July 2021), Archibald Welch, 1855.
  17. "United States Census, 1860", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M8TY-R9Y : 18 February 2021), A Welch, 1860.
  18. "United States Census, 1850," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCD7-GGW : 23 December 2020), Rebecca Sluder in household of Mark W Sluder, Bledsoe, Tennessee, United States; citing family , NARA microfilm publication (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
  19. "United States Census, 1870", database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MD8D-3CS : 29 May 2021), Archaba Welch, 1870.
  20. Citation "Tennessee State Marriage Index, 1780-2002," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VN4F-6BV : 4 December 2014), Archibald Welch and Rebecca Sluder, 04 Jan 1855; from "Tennessee State Marriages, 1780-2002," database and images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com : 2008); citing p. 49, White, Tennessee, United States, Tennessee State Library and Archives, Nashville, Tennessee.




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Here are some early census records and notes I took on Archibald Welch in attempt to figure out the family. Nancy I have noted as married Feb 21 1840. On another note I have Nancy's mother as Mary Lucinda Davis cited per Aunt Rosa Lee (Dodson) Austin, 1994

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GYB8-FWS?i=21&cc=1803955 1820 Census 1 Male 16-26 (Archibald) 1 Female under 10 (UNK) 1 Female 16-26 (Mary Davis Welch)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9YY8-91S4?i=74&cc=1803958 1830 Census 1 Male 30-40 (Archibald) 1 Female Under 5 3 Females 5-10 (UNK, UNK, Nancy) 1 Female 11-15 (UNK)

1840 Census https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9YB7-CHM?i=21&cc=1786457 2 Males under 5 (Jasper, George) 1 Male 5 - 10 (unk) 1 Male 30-40 (UNK) 1 Male 40-50 (Archibald) 1 Female under 5 (Lucinda) 1 Female 30-40 (Stacey McFadden Welch)

posted by Ronald Robinson
Thank you for adding the additional sources people can review. :)
posted by Katt Rambo
Welch-1622 and Welch-1635 appear to represent the same person because: All source data, parents names and other biographical is duplicate; birth dates are different

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