Idnerth ap Iorwerth (abt. 795)

Born about 0795 in Powys, Wales

Ancestors

Husband of Ellen ferch Aron — married [date unknown] in Powys, Wales

Descendants

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Biography

Birth and Parents

Idnerth, son of Iorwerth Hirflawdd and his wife Arianwen ferch Brychan, was an ancestor of Elystan Glodrydd. ^[1]

Wolcott estimates Idnerth ap Iorwerth's birth as 795. ^[2]

Idnerth was the son of Iorwerth Hirflawdd. ^[3]

Iorwerth Hirflawdd means "Iorwerth of the Long Struggle."

Pedigree: Ancestry and Descent

Wolcott estimates the birth years at 30-35 year intervals as follows for the line of descent from Teon to Elystan Glodrydd: ^[2]

• 700 Teon
• 735 Tegonwy
• 765 Iorwerth Hirflawdd
• 795 Idnerth
• 830 Gwenwyn
• 865 Cadwr
• 900 Seferus
• 930 Ifor
• 960 Cuhelyn
• 990 Elystan Glodrydd

He is identified by Boyer ^[4] in the pedigree of Gwaithfoed of Powys: Gwaithfoed ap Gwynnan ap Gwynnog Farefsych ap Lles Llawddeog ap Ceidio ap Corf ap Caenog ap Tegonwy ap Teon ap Gwineu Deufreuddwyd ap Brwyr Lew ap Bwydeg ap Rhun Rhudd Baladr ap Llary ap Casnar Wledig as one of Gwaithfoed of Powy's ancestors. Boyer does not provide individual descriptions of each generation, as only the name is given and it is likely that some or many are legendary. Boyer notes that the first eight generations of this pediree are the same as for the line of Trahaearn ap Caradog, with one generation difference. Gwaithfoed's pedigree appears in ahnentafel form at Legendary Ancestors of Gwaithfoed of Powys.

Research Notes

A source is needed for the chart which follows:

Ancestry of Cuhelyn ab Ifor

Cuhelyn ab Ifor (i.e. phonetically, Kai-helin son of Ivor). Peter Bartrum in his work on Welsh genealogies confirms that Elystan’s father was Cuhelyn ab Ifor ap Severus ap Cadwr ap Cadwr Wenwyn ab Idnerth ab Iorwerth Hirflawdd (‘Iorwerth of the Long Struggle’). Iorwerth was a direct descendant of Casnar Wledig (‘The Ruler’) of Powys and was a son of Tegonwy ap Teon. Bartrum records that he is first mentioned in De Situ Brecheniauc, writing: where he is called ‘Gereuerth, King of Powys, whence are named the Iorwerthian’^[5]

Sources

1. ↑ Carl Boyer 3rd. Medieval Welsh Ancestors of Certain Americans. By the author: Santa Clarita, California, 2004. Iorwerth Hirflawdd is #9 on page 346.
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1} Darrell Wolcott. The Enigmatic Elystan Glodrydd Accessed 9/8/2019 jhd
3. ↑ Elystan in historical context with a record of some of his early descendants, added 2014-07-10, amb Dead link removed 17 June 2021 jhd
4. ↑ Carl Boyer 3rd. Medieval Welsh Ancestors of Certain Americans. Generally follows Bartrum. By the author: Santa Clarita, California, 2004. Gwaithfoed and his ancestors are #1-15 on page 9.
5. ↑ Elystan Glodrydd added 2013-12-11 by amb

See also:

• Elystan Glodrydd Copyright © 2009 - 2013 Llwyth Elystan Glodrydd

Acknowledgements

• WikiTree profile UNKNOWN-130321 created through the import of Spencer Family Tree 4 2002.GED on Nov 28, 2011 by Chet Spencer. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Chet and others.
• This person was created through the import of David Rentschler Family Tree_2010-09-30.ged on 01 October 2010.