no image
Privacy Level: Open (White)

Ednyfed ap Llywarch (abt. 995 - 1076)

Ednyfed ap Llywarch
Born about in Kingdom of Powysmap
Ancestors ancestors
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 81 in Kingdom of Powysmap
Problems/Questions Profile manager: Jack Day private message [send private message]
Profile last modified | Created 10 Jan 2014
This page has been accessed 3,514 times.


Contents

Biography

Name and Parents

  • Ednyfed ap Llywarch Gam ap Lluddica ap tudur Trefor [1]
  • Ednyfed ap Llowarch, of Maelor, Oswestry, and Whittington, [2]

Ednyfed was the son of Llywarch Gam and Lleicu ferch Gwerystan. Lleicu's name may actually be Nest.

Ednyfed ab Llywarch was the son of Llywarch Gam.[3]

Birth Year Estimation by Darrell Wolcott

Wolcott estimates a birth year of 995 for Ednyfed and 1005 for Sioned. [4] Because of their coherence with other estimated dates, these dates have been selected over those which appear in popular genealogies. A birth year of 1030 was the year previously shown for Ednyfed -- a date later than the birth year of his son.

Boyer says that Ednyfed was born, say, 1000. [1]

Lands

Ednyved ab Llywarch was Lord of Chirk, Nantheudwy, Whittington, Oswestry, Maelor Isaf and Ellesmere. [3]

1020 Marriage to Sionet

Ednyfed married Sioned ferch Rhiwallon who was born, say, 1005. The identity of her father, other than his name, is unknown.

Estimating marriage date. Assuming that Sionet was in fact born in 1005, and married when she was 15 and Ednyfed aged 25, their marriage year would have been 1020 and their children born beginning in 1021. Wolcott estimates a birth year for their son Rhys as 1025. [4]

1070 Death of Sioned

Boyer estimates Sioned's death in the year 1070. [1]

Issue

One son is known.

  1. Rhys Sais, son of Ednyfed and Jonet married Efa ferch Gruffudd Hir. [1] Ednyfed was survived by his son, Rhys. [2] Vaughn[5] shows son Rhys Sais, lord of Whittington, etc, marrying Efa o Gruffudd and having three children in the next generation:
    1. Tudor of Whittington m. Sionet, daughter of Rhys Vychan
    2. Elidur, lord of Eyton
    3. Iddon, lord of Duddleston

Lloyd states that Ednyved and Janet had four sons and a daughter:

  1. Rhys Sais
  2. Rhys Fychan
  3. Maredudd
  4. Adda
  5. Margaret

Research Notes

Disambiguation

Two women named Sioned ferch Rhiwallon are easily confused:

  • Sioned ferch Rhiwallon (ferch Rhiwallon-1), born say 1005, daughter of Rhiwallon but uncertain which Rhiwallon. Married Ednyfed ap llywarch Gam ap Lluddica ap Tudor Trefor, b. 0995, mother of Rhys Sais ab Ednyfed, b. 1020
  • Sioned ferch Rhiwallon (ferch Rhiwallon-2), born say 1050, daughter of Rhiwallon ap Cynfyn (ap Cynfyn-12), married Tudor Walensis.

Rhiwallon ap Cynfyn was not born until about 20 years after Sioned was born, and therefore could not be her father. However, many sources name this Rhiwallon as her father:

Was Sioned the daughter of Rhiwallon ap Madog?

Boyer calls attention to Rhiwallon ap Madog ap Cadwgon ap Bleddyn, born, say, 1100, who had a daughter Jonet. [6] The Jonet in this family is not only a hundred years younger than Sioned, but is married to Cian ap Cadian ap Cadfael Lwytgoed ap bod Hen. [6] Regrettably, Boyer confuses the two.

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval Welsh Ancestors of Certain Americans. Generally follows Bartrum. By the author: Santa Clarita, California, 2004. Ednyfed is #7, p. 357.
  2. 2.0 2.1 J. Bernard Burke, Esq. A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain and Ireland for 1853 (3 Volumes). Volume III, Supplement, Corrigenda, and General Index. London, 1853. Accessed August 27, 2015
  3. 3.0 3.1 Jacob Youde William Lloyd. The history of the princes, the lords marcher, and the ancient nobility of Powys Fadog and the Ancient Lords of Arwystli, Cedewen, and Meirionydd. The Noble Tribe of the Marches of Powys and Fourteenth Noble Tribe of Gwynedd. London: T. Richards,1881. Volume I Page 312 Ednyfed appears on page 310. Accessed 6/6/2019 jhd
  4. 4.0 4.1 Darrell Wolcott, The Clan of Tudor Trevor. http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id55.html Accessed August 26, 2015. Welsh genealogies are long on pedigrees and short on dates. As a result, the dates sometimes attached to individuals conflict with dates attached to their parents or children. Darrell Wolcott, President, Center for the Study of Ancient Wales, has constructed estimated birth years for those coming before and following Tudor Trevor which seek to resolve the conflicts. Born in Jefferson, Texas in 1935 Darrell Wolcott grew up in Ohio. After a career in banking he took early retirement in 1996, and returning to his place of birth he created and endowed the Center for the Study of Ancient Wales (a non-profit foundation with a library of some 3200 volumes) located in Jefferson, Texas. The foundation has constructed a small castle to house its library and offices and acquired copies of thousands of source and secondary works related to the history of Wales, many of which are otherwise unavailable outside Britain. At present he is its sole researcher.
  5. H. F. J. Vaughn. Oswestry, Ancient and Modern, and Its Local Families, pp. 193-224, in Archaeologia Cambrensis. The Journal of the Cambrian Archaeological Association. Vol I, 5th Series, Table, p. 210. London: Pickering and Co, 1884
  6. 6.0 6.1 Carl Boyer 3rd. Medieval Welsh Ancestors of Certain Americans. By the author: Santa Clarita, California, 2004. Section on Bleddyn ap Cynfyn. Rhiwallon is #38, page 19




Is Ednyfed your ancestor? Please don't go away!
 star icon Login to collaborate or comment, or
 star icon contact private message the profile manager, or
 star icon ask our community of genealogists a question.
Sponsored Search by Ancestry.com

DNA
No known carriers of Ednyfed's DNA have taken a DNA test.

Have you taken a DNA test? If so, login to add it. If not, see our friends at Ancestry DNA.



Comments: 1

Leave a message for others who see this profile.
There are no comments yet.
Login to post a comment.
If this person is known to exist, and the name of his spouse is documented in a primary source, we should "source" that better on this profile. Because she's currently connected to the wrong parents and/or has impossible dates in her profile that make her very existence dubious.

If this person is a member of a project, then his spouse should be too; and hopefully we can get more volunteer researchers helping to find contemporary primary sources to validate (or disprove) the relationships and dates. In the meantime, it's 100% obvious that every visitor to this profile (or its child and spouse) are getting wrong information. That's bad.

posted by Isaac Taylor

A  >  ap Llywarch  >  Ednyfed ap Llywarch

Categories: Battle of Mechain | Chirk, Denbighshire | Oswestry, Kingdom of Powys