Elidir ap Sandde (abt. 730 - abt. 801)

Born about 0730 in Powys, Wales

Ancestors

Descendants

Died about 0801 at about age 71 in Isle of Man

Biography

Research Notes

Name

Name: Son V /Celeinion/ ^[1]

Fabricated Line of Descent

Boyer shows Gwriad in a line of descent going back to Coel Hen ("King Cole"). ^[2] Wolcott's different birth estimates are appended in parentheses. ^[3] Stewart Baldwin, however, states that the genealogy which purports to make Gwriad a direct male-line descendant of Llywarch Hen is almost certainly a late fabrication. ^[4]

1. Coel Hen or Coel Godebog, lived about the year 370 (345)
2. Ceneu ap Coel Hen was born say 400 (380)
3. Gwrwst Ledlum ap Ceneu ap Coel Hen was born say 430 (415)
4. Meirchion Gul ap Gwrwst Ledlum ap Ceneu ap Coel Hen was born say 470 (445).
5. Elidir Lydenwyn ap Merchion Gul ap Gwrwst Ledlum ap Ceneu was born say 500 (485),
6. Llywarch Hen ab Elidir Lydenwyn ap Meirchion Gul ap Gwrwst Ledlum was born say 530 (520)
7. Dwg ap Llywarch Hen ap Elidir Lydewyn ap Meirchion Gul was born say 570 (560).
8. Gwair ap Dwg ap Llywarch Hen ab Elidir Lydenwyn, born say 600
9. Tegid ap Gwair ap Dwg ap Llywarch Hen was born say 630
10. Alcwn ap Tegid ap Gwair ap Dwg, born say 670
11. Sandde ab Alcwn ap Tegid ap Gwair, born say 700 married Celeinion ferch Tudwal ab Anarawd Gwalch-Crwn ap Merfyn Mawr, who was King of Man and reputedly a descendant of Macsen Wledig (Roman Emperor Maximus, who died 388.
12. Elidir ap Sandde ab Alcwn ap Tegid, born say 730
13. Gwriad ab Elidir ap Sandde ab Alcwn, born say 770.

South Rheged (Old North)

As shown in "The History Files" for the year 0790, Elidyr map Sandde map Alcwn map Tegid map Gwyar map Llywarch Hen is a direct descendant of the last British king of South Rheged. Elidyr's son, Gwriad, becomes king of Gwynedd in 815, still carrying the title, Heir to South Rheged. Physical control of the region, however, has long since fallen to Northumbria, although southern sections may be conquered by Mercia during its ascendancy around this time. ^[5]

Isle of Man

Prince Elidyr ap Sandde moves the exiled Royal House of South Rheged from Powys to the Isle of Man. c. 750

King of Ynys Manaw (Isle of Man) about 790-801

Sources

1. ↑ Ancestry.com. Database Online. Public Member Trees. Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date:2006. Record for Son V. Elidyr
2. ↑ Carl Boyer, 3rd. Medieval Welsh Ancestors of Certain Americans. Generally follows Bartrum. By the author: Santa Clarita, California, 2004. Coel Hen is #1 on page 63.
3. ↑ Darrell Wolcott. Ancient Wales Studies. Pedigree of the Ancient Lords of Ial Accessed 4 November 2023 jhd
4. ↑ Stewart Baldwin Llywelyn ap Iorwerth ancestor table Accessed 5 August 2022 jhd
5. ↑ The History Files. Gealic British Isles and Ireland. Kingdoms of Caledonia and Ireland — Ynys Manau / Isle of Man, added 2014-07-03, amb Regrettably, the site contains no sources and cannot be considered reliable.

Acknowledgements

This person was created through the import of David Rentschler Family Tree_2010-09-30.ged on 01 October 2010.