Joan Clinton (abt. 1341 - bef. 1386)

Born about 1341 in England

Ancestors

Wife of John Sutton — married after 25 Dec 1361 in England

Descendants

Died before 1386 before about age 45 in England

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Biography

Joan de Clinton^{[1][2][3][4][5]}

Joan de Clinton, daughter of John de Clinton, Knt., of Coleshall, Warwickshire and his wife Joan Hillary, was born about 1341 (aged 12 in 1353). Her maternal grandfather was Roger Hillary, Knt., Chief Justice of the Common Pleas.^[1]

Marriage & Children

She married, firstly, Sir John de Montfort, son of Sir Peter de Montfort, 3rd Lord Montfort and Lora de Ullenhall, circa 1354. They had 1 son:^{[6][3][7][4][5]}

1. Sir Baldwin

Joan de Clinton married, secondly, Sir John IV de Sutton, Lord Dudley, son of Sir John II de Sutton, Baron Sutton of Dudley and Isabel Cherlton, after 25 December 1361. They had 1 son & 2 daughters:^[3][4][5]

1. Sir John
2. Margaret
3. Elizabeth

Joan de Clinton married, thirdly, Sir Henry ap Rhys ap Griffith, son of Sir Rhys ap Griffith, Sheriff of Carmarthen, Lord Whichnor and Joan de Somerville, before 1370; His 2nd marriage; her 3rd marriage. No issue.^{[2][8][3][4][9][5]}

Death

Joan de Clinton died before 1386.^[2][4][5]

Research Notes

According to Richardson (Royal Ancestry, IV:140 MONTFORT 9), the John Montfort who married Joan Clinton was an illegitimate son of Peter (the Peter who was heir to his brother John in 1314). And that Joan Clinton (this Joan Clinton) is, according to Richardson, the "daughter and heiress of John de Clinton, Knt., of Coleshill, Warwickshire, by Joan, daughter of Roger Hillary, Knt., Chief Justice of the Common Pleas. She was born about 1341." John and Joan (Clinton) Montfort had one son:^[10]

• Baldwin de Montfort, Knt., "married Margaret de Clinton, daughter of John de Clinton, Knt., 3rd Lord Clinton, by Idoine, daughter of Geoffrey de Say, Knt., 2nd Lord Say".^[11]

Detached Profile: John de Clinton is her father, but not the John represented by Clinton-8, whose profile has his death date as 1313 as of 27 January 2020. Her father was born about 1304 and died about 1353/4.^[12]

British History Online (BHO), detailing the ownership of Coleshill Manor, notes that Jane's father inherited Coleshill Manor when he was 12 at his grandfather's death in 1316. His grandfather, also John, was the second son of Thomas Clinton who died in 1278. Thomas had settled the manor on him in 1259.^[12] Thomas Clinton who died in 1278 has a WikiTree profile - Clinton-207 - but reading the biography, it appears to be a different Thomas Clinton than the one described in the BHO article. Also, I may not have correctly interpreted who the grandfather of Jane's father was from the BHO passage (although the "He...then described as John de Clinton the elder" is definitely the 2nd son of Thomas mentioned earlier in the BHO article):

"He was then described as John de Clinton the elder. (fn. 25) He died in 1316, holding the manor of the young son and heir of John de Clinton of Maxstoke. (fn. 26) His heir was his 12-year-old grandson, John, (fn. 27) who subsequently married a daughter of Sir Roger Hilary, and died in 1353 or 1354 leaving one daughter Joan. (fn. 28) She as her first husband married Sir John de Montfort, illegitimate son of Sir Peter de Montfort of Beaudesert. (fn. 29)"^[12]

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1} Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), volume IV, page 140 MONTFORT 9.
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1 2.2} Lewis, citing Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 277.
3. ↑ ^{3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3} Lewis, citing Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 152.
4. ↑ ^{4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4} Lewis, citing Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 139-140.
5. ↑ ^{5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3 5.4} Lewis, citing Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 100.
6. ↑ Lewis, citing Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 169.
7. ↑ Lewis, citing Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 256-257.
8. ↑ Lewis, citing Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 58.
9. ↑ Lewis, citing Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 665.
10. ↑ Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), volume IV, page 140 MONTFORT 9.
11. ↑ Richardson, Royal Ancestry, IV:141 MONTFORT 10.
12. ↑ ^{12.0 12.1 12.2} Coleshill, British History Online (accessed 27 Jan. 2020).

• Marlyn Lewis' compilation of all the above information