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Peter (Geneva) de Genève (bef. 1220 - bef. 1249)

Peter (Piers) "Lord of Ludlow Castle" de Genève formerly Geneva aka de Genevre, of Geneva
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Biography

"Pierre de Genève" was the son of Humbert I, Comte de Genève, and his wife, Agnes de Savoy.[1] He married Matilda de Lacy[2] in or before 1244 and died in 1249 without issue.[1]


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"Peter of Geneva," as he was sometimes called in English secondary sources, At least one genealogy states he was born in Dublin, Ireland, in 1225 but it may have been slightly earlier as it's known that Comte Humbert died in 1225.[3] Pierre and his family were part of a large (about 170) group of nobility from Savoy & Provence (southern France) that "invaded" England in the 13th Century when King Henry III married Princess Eleanor de Provence, whose mother was Beatrice de Savoy. Earlier, he and his brother Ebal de Genève had fled from Geneva with their Savoyard mother after their uncle, Count William II of Geneva, Comte Humbert I's younger brother, usurped the throne when Humbert I died in 1225.[4]

Deposed "Count" Peter found refuge in England when his cousin, Peter II, Count of Savoy, nicknamed "the little Charlemagne," went there after their aunt Eleanor's wedding to King Henry III. Before February 19, 1244, he married a wealthy heiress, Maud de Lacy, of Hertfordshire, whose father was the English Governor of Meath province, Ireland. Peter was also named as the Governor of Windsor Castle in Berkshire, England. The couple had two children, a boy and a girl, but both died in infancy.

Peter, "Governor of Windsor Castle," of Geneva died in June 1249 in Hertfordshire, England. His widow then married Geoffrey de Geneville, a nobleman from Champagne, France, who was closely related to the Savoyard dynasty and its nobility. He also held lands in Meath province, Ireland. They had 8 sons (including 2 named "Peter") and 2 daughters.

"Parmi les plus notables, citons les deux fils du comte Humbert de Genève, Pierre et Ebal, écartés de la succession par leur oncle Guillaume II à la mort de leur père. Si on trouve Pierre dans le sillage de Thomas de Savoie en 1200 -- il a alors environ quinze ans -- il faut attendre 1242 pour le voir fair partie de l'état-major de Pierre de Savoie; il participe à la campagne de Poitou et de Gascogne menée par Henri III pour recouvrer la Normandie. En 1244, Pierre de Genève est l'epoux de Mathilde Lacy qui héritera du château de Ludlow, encore visible de nos jours. Pierre est un familier de Pierre de Savoie. Il assiste à la donation faite à ce dernier de l'honneur d'Eagle. Il fréquente les grands de la cour d'Henri III, Richard, comte de Cornouailles, Simon III de Monfort; il est l'objet de faveurs royales. En 1247, il est châtelain de Windsor, l'une des trois principales forteresses royales, les deux autres étant Westminster et la Tour de Londres. Il succède dans cette fonction à Bernard de Savoie. On ne connaît pas exactement la date de sa mort; elle se situe entre le 26 mars et le 27 juin 1249. L'une de ses terres est remise à un membre de la famille de Grammont, originaire elle aussi d'une région voisine de Genève, le Bugey." [5]
Translation:
Among the most notable are the two sons of Count Humbert of Geneva, Peter and Ebal, removed from the estate by their uncle William II at the death of their father.If we find Pierre in the wake of Thomas of Savoy in 1200 - - he was then about fifteen years old - it was not until 1242 to see him part of the staff of Pierre de Savoie, he participated in the campaign of Poitou and Gascony led by Henry III to recover Normandy. Pierre de Geneve is the husband of Mathilde Lacy who will inherit Ludlow's castle, still visible today Pierre is a familiar Pierre de Savoie, he attends the donation made to the latter of the honor of Eagle. He frequented the grandees of the court of Henry III, Richard, Earl of Cornwall, Simon III of Monfort, he is the object of royal favors.In 1247, he is lord of Windsor, one of the three main royal fortresses, the other two being Westminster and the Tower of London. this function to Bernard de Savoie. The date of his death is not exactly known; it is between March 26 and June 27, 1249. One of his land is given to a member of the family Grammont, also from a neighboring region of Geneva, the Bugey.

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 Watson, G.W., "The Families of Lacy, Geneva, Joinville, and La Marche." published in The Genealogist (London: Golding and Lawrence) 1905. Online at Archive.org, pages 4-8.
  2. Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 2nd Ed., Vol. IV, p. 245-6, VERDUN.
  3. Piers de Genève 1225-1249 (Bad source - this is a link to Antoine DE GENEVRE (1769 - 1854) - not applicable to this profile/needs updating).
  4. Prestwich, Michael "Plantagenet England - Politics under Henry III", pp. 94-95 (not available online).
  5. Société D'Histoire D’Archeologie de Genève, Bulletin 1969, p 254-5

See also:

  • Magna Carta Ancestry 2011 2nd ed. Vol. III p. 186-187
  • Magna Carta Ancestries, by Douglas Richardson, publ. 2005

Acknowledgements

  • WikiTree profile Of_Geneva-20 was created through the import of Bwiki.ged on 03 April 2011.
  • WikiTree profile Geneva-29 created through the import of heinakuu2011-6.ged on Jul 5, 2011 by Johanna Amnelin.




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I agree with this merge. The birthplace on Of_Geneva-20 is wrong.
posted on Of Geneva-20 (merged) by Deborah (Smith) Talbot
Of Geneva-20 and De Geneville-46 appear to represent the same person because: These are dups - LNAB should be Geneva, and other last name is de Geneva. de Geneville is last name of wife's second husband and should not be used.
posted on Of Geneva-20 (merged) by Traci Thiessen
Dublin seems an unlikely birth place given the family seems to have no connections there prior to his marriage with Maud.
posted on Of Geneva-20 (merged) by Monica (Edmunds) Kanellis

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