Marie Anne Sauteuse
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Marie Anne Sauteuse (abt. 1747 - 1784)

Marie Anne Sauteuse
Born about in Assomption, Sandwich, Essex, Ont.map
Wife of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Wife of — married 1768 in Detroit, Wayne, Michiganmap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 37 in Sandwich, Essex, Ontario, Canadamap
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Biography

Marie (generally referred to as Marie Sauvagesse, or Marie Sauteuse) had 8 children with Antoine Descomps dit Labadie although they never married.

Note: date of birth estimated by date and age at marriage, as well as her baptism and burial records.

Marriage or Union - Antoine at 40 & Marie-Anne at 20 - future United States

Antoine Louis Descompt dit Labadie and Marie, a Sauteuse’s (Chippewa/Ojibwa) Family:

Antoine Louis Descompt dit Labadie, son of Pierre Descompt dit Labadie, a merchant, and Angélique Lacelle, was born and baptized 19 May 1732 in Montréal. He was baptized Louis Antoine. His godparents were Louis Gamelin and Charlotte Cuillerier. His father and the godparents signed the register

Baptism of Louis Antoine Descompt dit Labadie; he was generally known as Antoine Louis Descompt dit Labadie in the Detroit area.

Antoine Louis Descompt dit Labadie married Angélique Campeau, daughter of Nicolas Campeau dit Niagara and Agathe Casse dite St Aubin, 26 February 1759 in Ste Anne de Detroit [Kelley, ed. p. 14].

They were the parents of five children. Angélique Campeau was buried 11 December 1767 [Denissen, Vol. I, p. 616 – under Labadie]. When the 1762 census was taken, Antoine Louis Descompt dit Labadie was listed under the name Badichon in the section dealing with “families who have no house.” When Antoine Louis and Angélique’s son Jean Baptiste was baptized 7 February 1763, his father was described as demeurant chez son pere en la coste du Sorouëst (living with his father on the coast of the southwest)

Following Angélique Campeau’s death, he had eight children by Marie, a Sauteuse (Ojibwa/Chippewa).

  • Marie one child of AntoineLouis Decomps Dit Labadie (b. 5-19-1732 Montreal Canada, d. 12-17-1807 Essex, Ontario Canada) and Marie (An Ojibway Indian) Record show they were never married legally. He had another spouse at one time.) They had 15 children. They used the surname Badichon for the children Marie & Antoine had). Their daughter Marie married Benjamin Louis Gregoire Dit Nantais 10-7-1799 at L' Assomption Church in Sandwich, Ontario Canada. They had 14 Children: Benjamin Jr, Jean-Baptist, Isidore, Maire-Genevieve, David, Basiliesse, Louis-Guillaume, Joseph, Pierre, Victoria, Basil-Bartholomew, Elisabeth, James-Jacques & Nicolas-Agapil.
  • Marie Anne Descomps dit Labadie (born Sauteuse) was born circa 1747, to Chief Pontiac Indian and Kan-tuck-ee-gun Indian (born Woman Canoe Paddler). Chief Pontiac was born circa 1714, in Ottawa Village, Detroit River. Kan-tuck-ee-gun was born circa 1716. Marie married Antoine Louis Descomps dit Labadie in 1770, at age 23 at marriage place, Michigan. (one source Antoine and Marie had a "COUNTRY WEDDING" in 1768. (A wedding performed by an Indian chief.) Antoine was born on May 19 1730, in Montréal, QC Canada. His occupation was Compagnon menuisier. They had 3 children: Charlotte Descomps dit Labadie and 2 other children. (and more). Marie passed away on 5 Feb 1784, at age 37 in Sandwich, Essex.

Comment

It is agreed that her being the daughter of Pontiac is based on family tradition, and has been a long standing urban legend among the Essex and Kent county families.

Therein lies the problem. Country weddings performed by indian chiefs were never recorded or acknowledged by the church. The baptismal records of her children definitely identify her as "sauvagesse Sauteuse". Her baptismal record in 1783 idetified her as "Marie Sauvagesse". Her burial record was witnessed at L'Eglise de L'Assomption de la Pointe de Montreal (Sandwich) by the Honorable Jaques Baby Duperon from the Detroit side and several others. The Priest acknowledged their existence but did not identify them as non-christian. Indians having no standing in the church. However they were allowed to sign the death record with their symbols (these are definitely not signatures). Jacques Baby's daughter married Shawnee Chief Bluejacket and assumed the indian name "Clearwater". Jacques Baby and Antoine Louis Descomps dit Labadie were friends, and friends with Pontiac. At least one of those symbols / Signatures was that for Bluejacket. The others should be for other indian chiefs or Clearwater Baby. The problem is that women, having no legal standing weren't usually allowed to sign these documents. If these were from other chiefs then she must have had great standing amongst the indians to have them come and witness her interment (even if we cannot prove she was Pontiac's daughter), Their mere presence at her burial indicated her standing. (Post script: Not certain where this description of the death record comes from, as the copy of the burial registry from l'Assomption doesn't show any such signatures).

Discussion

There is also speculation as to whether Mannon and Marie are the same person. Some sources indicate that Marie and Mannon were in fact two separate people. Mannon, it would seem was a slave that took care of Marie's children after she passed away. Mannon had ten children with another slave, not with Anthony Louis Decomps dit Labadie. Time and legend, it would seem, has incorrectly fused Marie and Mannon into one person.

Antoine's wife: The indian woman's name was Marie. She was baptized in June 1783 while dangerously ill and pregnant with her last child. That child was born 31 Dec 1773 and buried 1 Jan 1784. Marie died in Feb 1784. Mannon was a domestic slave purchased for 80 bushels of wheat to help Marie in the household with a very special arrangement. She had become the mate of their male slave Jean Baptiste and bore a child also named Jean Baptiste, baptized in 1783. Indian custom is that all women share in the rearing of the children, so she was helping Marie. When Marie died she simply carried on raising the Badichon children and her own. (There is a possibility that she had 10 of her own between 1776 and 1792 when the father Jean Baptiste died still a Labadie slave. This lead up to the belief that Antoine had 33 children). The Badichon children remembered no other mother than the foster mother Mannon. This has lead to massive confusion.

As for the Pontiac story, that's a different ballgame. Marie is most likely the real daughter of Pontiac. Antoine and Marie had a "COUNTRY WEDDING" in 1768. (A wedding performed by an Indian chief.) The first Badichon child Joseph was born in April 1769. Pontiac was murdered in Kaskasia Illinois in 1769. The only documented evidence to her being Pontiac's daughter is in the ancient papers on record in Detroit,. There are no church records to that effect. The church identifies her as a Sauteuse or sauvagesse in almost all the baptizmal records for the children. These records all exist in the Assumption church records. None of the children were baptized as Badichon. Most of them were baptized as Descomps dit Labadie or Descombes dit Labadie. (source: https://www.ancestry.com/boards/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=2251&p=localities.northam.canada.ontario.essex )

Sources

  • History of the Labadie Labardee Laberdee Laberdie Laberdy family 1702-1982 / [by Linda Laberdee Grant] Grant, Linda Laberdee. 1982 Available at Local History Family (Call number: Rf 929.2 Lab Gra)
  • PRDH, #14555 – Louis Antoine Descompt dit Labadie’s Baptism].
  • Detroit River Region métis Families – Part 3 – Daunois/Daunay – Duguay
  • Marcel Trudel - Dictionnaire des esclaves et de leurs propriétaires au Canada français (Cahiers du Québec, Histoire) (French Edition) ISBN-13: 978-2890458338, ISBN-10: 2890458334; Marie is listed on page 317 as a slave of Antoine-Louis Descomps dit Labadie. (Which begs the question, was Marcel Trudel referring to Mannon or Marie?).
  • Early U.S. French Catholic Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1695-1954; Gabriel Drouin, comp. Drouin Collection. Montreal, Quebec, Canada: Institut Généalogique Drouin. Registre Paroisse L'Assomption de Sandwich de Windsor, (Essex, Ontario). Citing: Baptism of Marie Sauvagesse de Labadie, on 2 Jun 1783, (approximately 36 yrs old), appearing dangerously sick, possibly why she sought baptism. Burial of Marie Sauvagesse, living in the home of Badichon, is listed 6 Feb 1784, deceased 5 Feb (approximately 37 yrs old).




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I would like to suggest the name be updated to Marie Sauteuse, removing the name "Mannon" in the profile. Most of the research I have found, including one by Diane Wolford Sheppard of the French-Canadian Heritage Society of Michigan, (https://habitantheritage.org/cpage.php?pt=39) suggests Mannon was a different person; a Pannise slave, who was purchased by Antoine 8 years after the beginning of his relationship with Marie. Could the information be included in the discussion? I would like Mannon's descendants to be able to reference her directly.
Yep, I was just discussing this with several people. One of them shared this about Marie and Mannon:

She was known as Marie “Sauvagesse Sauteuse”. She was born about 1747 and was married in an Indian ceremony to Antoine-Louis Descomps dit Labadie in 1768. This marriage was considered illegitimate in the eyes of the church. He took her as his second wife after his first wife died. He was a coureur du bois (a frontiersman who lived in the wilderness), as was his father before him. He and his father as well as previous generations lived in what is now the Detroit area and had good relations with the Ottawa Chippewa (aka Saulteaux) tribe near Fort Detroit in Michigan, of which Pontiac was the chief, with whom he developed a trust and friendship (and yes that is the famous Chief Pontiac). He came to be known as “dit Badichon” which was the name given to him by the tribe because they could not pronounce his French name Labadie. In the mid 1760’s he relocated to the other side of the Detroit River, to what was known as Upper Canada (Windsor did not really exist yet) and established a large plantation near what is now Walkerville. His land was located where the Hiram Walkers Distillery now stands. He built and operated a horse grist mill and a windmill. The windmill was a prominent fixture on the shore of the river from 1776 to 1874 when it was torn down. He also was known to have kept a large number of slaves, both Indian and black. It is interesting to note that there was a rumour at the time when legislation was passed in Upper Canada by the Legislative Council to abolish slavery in 1793, that the legislation introduced was done so to target him specifically. There is belief that has survived since the 1700s that Marie, his native bride, was actually the daughter of Chief Pontiac. This is not 100% certain as there were no written records, only passed down verbally through the generations. Marie and Antoine were married from 1768-1784, and had 7 children. The children were considered illegitimate because the marriage of their parents did not take place in the church. Marie was not baptized until she became ill during her eighth pregnancy in July of 1783. She delivered a child on December 31st, who died following birth. Marie then died in February of 1784 from complications following that birth. When Antoine remarried that same year, his new wife refused to care for the children because they were “half-breeds”. So one of Antoine’s Indian slave girls, Mannon took over as “mother” to the children. Interestingly, there is documentation that states Antoine purchased Mannon, a Pawnee Indian slave for 80 bushels of wheat in October 1775 and was brought to the house specifically to help Marie with child rearing. Antoine had three wives, with a total of 23 children.

posted by Gilles Caron
edited by Gilles Caron
James LaLone.. I've added a possible explanation in comment section of her biography.
posted by Gilles Caron
For at least 10 years I have seen this as Marie being a daughter of Pontiac, but no one has provided documentation, she should be removed.
Saulteuse Indian --1 and Sauteuse-1 appear to represent the same person because: Just adopted this orphaned profile. Duplicate profile of Marie Sauteuse mother of Antoine Labadie
posted by Gilles Caron
My father told me 50 years ago Pierre Roy was at Detroit before Cadillac, that was handed down before people Talked about it, this also was talked about the friendship between Pontiac and the people involved is well Known there is mention in Droin or Tanguary, so it is part legion and part circumstantial i for one would be willing to let it play out Pontiac's daughter"s did marry, there was a wedding(Country) It was reported they ate British officers after a campaign, your getting hung up on something that may take DNA to solve give it time and the Sauteuse thing has also been exsplained

Marie Anne Descomps dit Labadie (born Sauteuse) was born circa 1747, to Chief Pontiac Indian and Kan-tuck-ee-gun Indian (born Woman Canoe Paddler). Chief Pontiac was born circa 1714, in Ottawa Village, Detroit River, she was the wife of two of my 5th great grand fathers, Claude-Pierre Solo 1732–1799 BIRTH 21 SEP 1732 • Montreal, Canada and Antoine-Louis Descompts Dit Labadie-Bodichon 1732–1807 BIRTH 19 MAY 1732 • Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan, USA

posted by [Living Lajiness]
Kevin, got in touch with the author and she says that she says nowhere that Marie is descended from Pontiac, in fact she used mainly Denissen's work for the early generations.
History of the Labadie Labardee Laberdee Laberdie Laberdy family 1702-1982 / [by Linda Laberdee Grant]

Grant, Linda Laberdee. PRINT MATL PRINT MATL | 1982 Available at Local History Family (Call number: Rf 929.2 Lab Gra) unfortunately I Cant confirm this connection to Pontiac because i cant get to the book but other sources says its there, see has written extensively.

posted by [Living Lajiness]
What is the documentation for her being a daughter of Pontiac? For one thing, if she were Pontiac's daughter she would not be referred to as Sauteuse (Chippewa/Ojibwa) as she was Ottawa/Odawa.

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