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White Family Research Project

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THE WHITE FAMILY RESEARCH TEAM IS LOOKING FOR DESCENDANTS ALONG THE PATERNAL LINES OF JOHN, HENRY, THOMAS, GEORGE, AND WILLIAM WHITE. IF YOU ARE A MALE DESCENDANT AND HAVE TAKEN A Y-DNA HAPLO-GROUP TEST (OR ARE CONTEMPLATING TAKING ONE) WE WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE YOU IN OUR STUDY GROUP. PLEASE CONTACT CHARLES WHITE THE MANAGER OF THIS PAGE

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Research Focus Teams

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Links to Primary White Family Wikitree Pages

John White, b. 1609 Isle of Wight, Va.

John White, d.1719 Isle of Wight, Va.
John White, d.1730 Perquimans, NC
Thomas White, d.1761 Perquimans, NC
Joseph White, d.1759 Perquimans, NC
William White, d.1772
Thomas White Isle of Wight, Va.

Henry White b. 1615 Isle of Wight, Va.

Henry White II, b.1640 Isle of Wight, Va.

John White d. 1673 Lancaster, MA

Resources

John White Early Immigrant by Sponsor and Arrival Date

[Bristol and America, a record of the first settlers in the colonies of North America, 1654-1685 : including the names with places of origin of more than 10,000 servants to foreign plantations who sailed from the port of Bristol to Virginia]

Purpose of this Page

Charles White, b.1950s is a direct descendant of John White, d.1730 documented as "John White II" by the Order of First Families of North Carolina who settled in the Province of Carolina which later become the State of North Carolina. [1] (http://www.offnc.org/)

Charles White, b.1950s is also a participant in the FamilyTreeDNA White Family Y-DNA Group Project [2](https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/white/activity-feed) and separately manages a sub-group of Y-DNA participants from this family line.

The intent of this page is to provide a collective collaborative forum to document prior research for the search of this early White family progenitor and through the utilization of robust and documented research (including further Y-DNA analysis) to promote validation of his identification.

There have been many attempts to identify the progenitor of the numerous inhabitants of Colonial Virginia and the North Carolina Tidewater Region that have carried the White surname.

Much of this early research starts from Mrs. Watson Winslow's book “The History of Perquimans County”.[3] which has been modified over the years by more recent researchers. Notably, by General John Elliott Wood [4][5]who coordinated the genealogical history efforts of local families and compiled and made available copies of a genealogy chart he prepared of the White family which split it into four branches labeled “Henry”, “John”, “George”, and “William”. [6] After retirement from a distinguished military service, Wood pursued his interest in genealogy from the Currituck County Courthouse and also authored an article published in the Sunday, September 4, 1955, edition of The Virginian-Pilot and Portsmouth Star newspaper of Norfolk, VA. titled 'The Whites of Tidewater: A Study of Man's Growth in the New World'. The article discusses General Wood's research on four branches of the White family from the 1600's. (chart and article attached).

As noted in his article, Wood's research concludes that "William White, born in England about 1580, was one of the 107 men at Jamestown in 1607. He was buried in Elizabeth City County 12 September 1624 leaving three sons: John, born 1609; James born 1611; and, Henry born about 1615.

The following discussion attempts to validate the claims of previous researchers, particularly the claim of General John Elliott Wood (made almost 70 years ago), that the earliest progenitor of this line of the White family was a William White, possibly one of the original Jamestown settlers.

Much of my research has utilized Y-DNA analysis from FamilyTreeDNA to scientifically document paternal relationships from descendants with documented lineages.

At present, 17 descendants who have a close genetic paternal relationship have been identified, as follows:

-14 descendants from the John White line containing son, John White, d.1719 Isle of Wight, and grandsons, (6 descendants from John White, d.1730; 7 descendants from Thomas White, d.1761 ;1 descendants from [[White-72248|Joseph White, d.1759])



Additionally, 2 descendants from the immigrant John White Lancaster, MA have been identified and share a slightly more distant genetic Y-DNA distance to the William White, b. 1580 descendants. John White Lancaster, MA has been validated as a descendent of Robert White and Joan West from South Petherton County, Somerset, England identified as the 6th generation in the Genesis of the White Family by Emma Siggins White, 1920. page, 37.[7] suggesting that William White b. 1580 is likely a descendant from one of the South Petherton, Somerset, England White family.


Charles White
August, 2022


Hypothesis #1: John, Henry, and James were brothers and descendants from a family from Somerset, England with a father possibly named William.

Key Points Proven by Y-DNA Analysis and Conclusion:
  • The Henry on the Chart is Henry White b. 1615 Isle of Wight, Va. Y-DNA analysis on claimed Henry descendants provides confliction results: Kit #982150 suggests a descendant of Thomas White, d.1761 Perquimans, NC, son of John White, d.1719 Isle of Wight, Va.; Kit#988535 suggests a descendant within the I-M253 haplogroup, but a extremely distant relation to John White, d.1719 --- therefore, if true, Henry and John could not be brothers. An additional Henry White b. 1615 tester is under review. --Needs Additional Analysis, Likely Unrelated--
  • The George on the Chart is The Reverend George White. Kit#179580 is a claimed descendent The Reverend George White and is in the R-M269 Haplo Group. [8] If true, The The Reverend George White could not be related to John White, d.1719 Isle of Wight, Va. --Needs Additional Analysis, Likely Unrelated--

As previously stated, General John Elliott Wood speculated that possibly the William White, born ca. 1580 in England who comes to Jamestown in 1607 and dies in Virginia City in 1624 (one of the first 107 people aboard the first three 1607 ships - Godspeed, Susan Constant and Discovery) could have possibly been the father of “George”, “Henry”, or "John" listed on the Wood chart. Much of Wood’s analysis appears to be validated although some of it appears to be false. The association to William White of Jamestowne needs to be researched.

It has long been speculated that the principle lines depicted on the Wood chart were brothers. So far, Y-DNA analysis has confirmed that John White b. abt. 1609 is the likely father of John White, d.1719 Isle of Wight, the progenitor of the families of John White, d.1730, Thomas White, d.1761, and William White that were among the first families in the region.

David Lowe’s research identifies George White (also listed on the Wood Chart) as an Anglican priest who migrated from Nansemond County along the James River and, with his sons, acquired land grants along the Chowan River. One of his descendants, Luke White, owned the land known as “White Landing at Rockahock'. A 1764 Chowan County deed notes that he was a ‘ferryman'. Later, Luke's son, George White, developed a plantation just south of “Greenfield Plantation on the Albemarle Sound [9]

There were also several Whites that were Anglican Priests sent to Virginia in the early 1600s and sponsored by the Virginia Company [10]. “Virginia Immigrants and Adventurers 1607-1635”, page 741 documents several[11]:

1. Reverend George White, as previously mentioned is shown on the Wood White Chart who patents land on the Nansemond River on June 3, 1635.

2. Reverend Robert White who set sail to Virginia on the James July 31, 1622 with his wife Mary, a John White and William Cradock.

3. Reverend Thomas White is sent to Virginia September 11, 1621 to a private plantation.

4. Reverend William Whitt (White) in Elizabeth City buried there on September 12, 1624 who had land in Virginia.

It is known that Y-DNA ties us to the family in South Petherton who had a history as lay Church Wardens in the South Petherton Church.

Finally, Derek White and KW are documented descendants of John White Lancaster, MA and share a fairly close genetic Y-DNA distance to Charles White a documented descendent of John White, d.1719. John White Lancaster, MA has been validated as a descendent of Robert White and Joan West from South Petherton County, Somerset, England identified as the 6th generation in the Genesis of the White Family by Emma Siggins White, 1920. page, 37.[12]

Although the buildout of the Somerset White family is not complete, the 5th generation identified by Emma Siggins White [13]and others [14][15] [16] identify both a William White and Henry White as cousins to John White Lancaster, MA And from a timeline perspective, descendants from the 5th or 6th generation of the Somerset Whites could fit as the progenitor to this family. The Y-DNA reconciles with John White, d.1719, the family has a active history in the Anglican Church as “church wardens”, and the family given names are consistent with those used by John, Thomas, and Henry. Further research is required to determine if this branch of the White Family were related to early Colonial involvement in the Virginia Company as mentioned in the "The Genesis of The United States" [17]

Additional research needed:

1). Descendants of Henry and George need to be identified and proof needs to be established with Y-DNA testing. Partially Completed.

2). Additional Y-DNA testing (both SNP and STR) needs to be completed on John White Lancaster, MA decedents to refine Most Recent Common Ancestor estimation. Completed.

3.) Further identification of the 5th and 6th generations of the White family from Somerset England needs to be finalized.

4.) Reconciliation of Colonial ship manifests [18] and head right property grants for the various John, Henry, and George Whites need to be conducted.

5.) Locate early Church of England records to identify Priests sent to Virginia in the 1620s named White with ties to South Petherton.


Colonization of Virginia

[Excerpt from the Introduction of “John White of Virginia and North Carolina and some of his Decedents” by Helen White DeWaard and Virgil White, Published by Gregath Publishing Company, Cullman, AL. Not Copyrighted and in Public Domain] [19]

Much has been written about the colonization of Virginia, beginning with the settlement at Jamestown—and even before that when one of the first attempts at a settlement was in 1585. This settlement was sponsored by Sir Walter Raleigh and was called Fort Raleigh. The names of the 107 colonists who remained at the Fort for over a year are listed in “Explorations and Attempted Settlements of Carolina”, published by the State Department of Archives and History at Raleigh, N.C. in 1953.

Two years later, in 1587, a new colony of 150 men was sent to Fort Raleigh in America by Sir Walter Raleigh, under the charge of John White who had also been in the 1585 settlement. This John White, who was appointed governor of the new colony, was an exceptional artist, and many illustrations and maps of the early Va. and N.C. areas are in existence today which were drawn by him. He returned to England for much-needed supplies, and for various reasons was unable to return until three years later, in 1590, but when the supply ships came, they could find no trace whatsoever of the colonists. The story of this settlement, entitled "The Lost Colony of Roanoke," is presented every summer at Manteo, N.C. At that time, the entire area of Virginia and North Carolina was called Virginia.

What is now called Isle of Wight Co. was inhabited before 1607 by a tribe of Indians called "Warascoyaks," who were located on the south side of James River, within an area about five miles wide and twenty miles long. This tribe was friendly with the Englishmen and willing to trade with them, in contrast to the other tribes in the vicinity. One of their towns was called Pagan Point, which may also have been called "Pagan Shore”. Warrascoyak Co. was one of the original counties of Virginia, formed from the various plantations, and in1637 then name of the county was changed to Isle of Wight Co. At that time, the area south of the James River was divided into two counties—Upper and Lower Norfolk. Upper Norfolk became Nansemond Co. Nansemond Co. records are very scarce, partly because of damage or destruction during the two major wars, and partly because of a courthouse fire in 1867 in Nansemond County. Isle of Wight Co. was located next to Nansemond Co., and there are quite a few records available for Isle of Wight Co., with mentions of Nansemond names sometimes included. The name is also found in Chowan Co., N.C. records, since Chowan Co. (and later Gates Co., N.C, which was formed from Chowan Co.) is immediately south of Nansemond Co., Va.

Society of Friends (Quakers) in Colonial NC/VA

John White d.1719 may have been a Quaker in Virginia although records have not been found that can validate this claim.

We do know that his son John White d.1730 was married to Sarah Clare in a Quaker ceremony in Perquimans/Piney Woods Monthly Meeting, NC in 1717 and son Thomas White d.1761 was married in a Quaker ceremony to Rachel Jordan Chuckatuck Monthly Meeting , Nansemond, Virginia in 1719. The source documents for these marriages are on their respective pages.

Furthermore, Lowe has reported that daughters Elizabeth (m. bef. 1718), Rachel (m.1741), and Elizabeth "the younger" (1744) were married in Pagan Creek Monthly Meeting in Virginia (source documents need to be found).

If John White d.1719 had been a Quaker, the following provides an interesting insight into the lack of John White documentation in Virginia and the rational for migration into what became the Province of Carolina.

In their research for "The White Family Chronicles", Donna M. Shumate and Willard E. White[20] have aptly described the the religious and social setting in which Quakers of this era found themselves. The remainder of this section is a direct quote from this comprehensive summary and is used with their permission:

The lack of Quaker records generally may be explained in the research and writings of Seth B. Hinshaw. He states:

During the early years of the Quaker movement there were no official membership rolls. Generally speaking, people who attended meeting for worship, and who held to the principles and practices of Quakers considered to be members.....

All Friends shall be deemed members of the Quarterly and Monthly meetings within the compass of which they inhabit... and the wife and children to be deemed members of which the husband or father is a member not only during his life but after his decease. In this was "birthright membership" for children came into existence. It had long been the custom to regard the children of Friends as being in the scope of special care; but this action, which marked a turning point in Quaker history, made them members.

The Province of Carolina was chartered in 1663 by King Charles II. Quakers are documented living in the area that would later become Perquimans County as early as 1665. The Carolina Charter authored primarily by John Locke, provided for religious freedom. It stated:

No person... shall be in any ways molested, punished, disquieted, or called into question for any differences in opinion or practice in matters of religious concernment, but every person shall have and enjoy his conscience in matters of religion throughout all the province.

The Charter named eight Lord Proprietors who granted land and established colonial governments on behalf of the King of England. One of these Proprietors was Governor William Berkeley of Virginia who provided numerous land grants in the northeastern section of the province called Albemarle. Albemarle was comprised of four precincts which later became counties: Berkeley, later named Perquimans; Pasquotank; Shaftesbury, later renamed Chowan; and Currituck. Albemarle became a haven for individuals seeking religious freedom, especially Quakers who moved from Virginia where they were subjected to severe discrimination and punishment imposed by Governor Berkeley for practicing their faith.

By 1696 there were sixty to seventy scattered families established along the waterfront for twenty miles up Little River and around the Perquimans River. Timothy Clare was among these early settlers having arrived in 1681 and marrying for the first time in 1686. In February 1689 he purchased land and a plantation as recorded in the Perquimans County Deed Book "A", Item #43. By 1717, the year of John White d.1730 and Sarah Clare wedding, the population Perquimans County had rapidly grown to approximately 1,500 inhabitants.

Quakers made up the majority of the population of Albemarle for the first fifty years and continued to be a dominant influence well into the 18th Century. In fact, the Society of Friends was the first established religion in the Colony of Carolina and went unchallenged by the Church of England until 1703 when it first appeared in the colony.

The first recorded Quaker meeting occurred in May 1672 on a spot where the town of Hertford now stands. This was documented in the journal of William Edmundson, a Quaker missionary from England. In the fall of 1672, George Fox, the founder of the Society of Friends, journeyed to the Americas and spent eighteen days in Albemarle. These two visits increased the following of the Quaker faith and clearly established it as a dominant religion in the area.

Early meetings were held in the homes of members, and as the membership grew free-standing meeting houses were built. By 1700 the area had over a half dozen established monthly meetings locations. The Piney Woods Meeting House is where John White and Sarah Clare were married in 1717.

In the late 1600's and early 1700's Quakers were prominent landowners, were active in their communities and held local and county offices. These were activities that had been outlawed in Virginia. Their political influence was further advanced in 1695 when the Lord Proprietors appointed John Archdale, a Quaker, as Governor. Among the Quakers serving in the early Carolina government was Timothy Clare who was a Burgess in the Colonial Assembly in 1703 and 1708.

This open acceptance and participation in government was short lived. In 1712 Edward Hyde was installed as Governor after the Cary Rebellion in 1711, which pitted Anglicans and Quakers against each other. This marked the beginning of the exclusion of Quakers from holding government offices and serving on juries in Carolina. This was the political and social environment in which both John White d.1719 from Isle of Wight and his son John White d.1730 Perquimans County, NC and their families lived.

Fortunately, it did not restrict the ability of Quakers to own, buy, or sell land. Also, the local government recognized the marriages and legitimacy of children recorded in court documents such as deeds and wills.

Y-DNA Analysis

A sub-set of the White FamilyTreeDNA Surname Group Project (https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/white/activity-feed) has been formed to specifically to identify Y-DNA carriers within the I-M253.1323.1410.13-14 Haplo/STR group. Individuals with documented genealogies have been compared against each other and genetic differences have been categorized and analyzed by Charles White .

The following is a summery as of January, 6, 2022 when the Y-DNA of the testers is compared to Charles White who has a documented lineage to John White d.1730:

-From lineage to John White d.1730 : WEW has tested at Y-111 [21] with a genetic difference of 1; AQW has tested at Y-111 [22] with a genetic difference of 2; JTW has tested at Y-67 [23] with a genetic difference of 1; MW has tested at Y-67 [24] with a genetic difference of 1; FTDNA indicates that the average probability these individuals share a common ancestor with Charles White the last 7 generations is 93.50% and within the last 9 generations 97..63%. John White d.1719 Isle of Wight is at 9 generations.

-From lineage to Thomas White d.1761: Charles Thomas White Sr. has tested at Y-111 [25] with a genetic difference of 0; CRW has tested at Y-111 [26] with a genetic difference of 2; CW has tested at Y-111[27] with a genetic difference of 3; WSW has tested at Y-37 [28] with a genetic difference of 0; CEW has tested at Y-37 [29] with a genetic difference of 1; FTDNA indicates that the average probability these individuals share a common ancestor with Charles White the last 7 generations is 95.02% and within the last 9 generations 98.23%. John White d.1719 Isle of Wight is at 9 generations.

-From lineage to Joseph White  : LPC has tested at Y-111 [30] with a genetic difference of 1. FTDNA indicates that the average probability these individuals share a common ancestor with Charles White the last 7 generations is 97.73% and within the last 9 generations 99.4%. John White d.1719 Isle of Wight is at 9 generations.

In summary, I believe this Y-DNA analysis gives strong support that John White d.1730, Thomas White d.1761, and Joseph White share a common parent. This is further supported by the paper research and documentation.

Additionally , two individuals in the group have documented lineage to John White d.1673 Lancaster, MA KAW has tested at Y-111 [31] with a genetic distance of 5, and Derek White at Y-111 [32] with a genetic distance of 1. FTDNA indicates that the average probability these individuals share a common ancestor with Charles White the last 12 generations is 98% and within the last 14 generations 99%. John White d.1673 Lancaster, MA is at approximately 12 generations. The Y-DNA data could support the possibility of a common relationship with the ancestry of John White d.1673 Lancaster, MA who immigrated from the family of Robert White in Somerset, England.

Finally, a direct descendant of Mordecai White, Lee White has tested at Y-111 [33] with a genetic difference of 35. As a result of this testing, Mordecai White was removed as a possible son of John White d.1730 as the genetic distance confirms they are too distant.

Discussion of Early Research on the Colonial NC/VA White Family

‘Families of the name White are so numerous in Tidewater Virginia and North Carolina that few of them are able to clarify their origin or their kin. Identification of persons prior to the year 1800 is difficult enough even if their family name was uncommon, and well nigh hopeless in the case of the Smiths, Jones, Whites, and such, unless the individual distinguished himself in some particular way.' [34]

-General John Elliott Wood


Mrs. Watson Winslow - The History of Perquimans County

In 1931, Mrs. Watson Winslow presented a comprehensive survey of an early summary of family histories, deed abstracts, and researched marriages in a wonderfully detailed book titled “The History of Perquimans County”.[35] Not surprisingly, in spite of her significant effort, within the White line and particularly among the numerous ancestors named John White, some of the critical details appear to have been erroneously attributed and, unfortunately, consistently repeated though the ensuing years.

Ms. Winslow identifies a Thomas White as a subject of the Jamestown colony in 1609 (Browns Genesis to America); a Henry White of York County, Va., who migrated to Perquimans Precinct before 1670 building the first Quaker Church; and a John White and William White who "made their entry into Perquimans County about the same time" suggesting the latter might be brothers". She further suggests that a William White was a passenger for Va. on the Primrose July 27, 1625 and entertains the possibility that Henry, John and William might have been brothers.

Its clear that the Henry White Ms. Winslow refers to is Henry White a prominent Quaker leader in Colonial NC. It is not clear who exactly the John White and William White are or if they are related to this search for the father of John White, d.1719.

Under her discussion of the Thomas White line, Mrs. Winslow suggests that "Thomas of Isle of Wight was a descendent of John White, who came to Va., from New England, & took up land in Norfolk Co.", and that "Elder John White b. 1596 in Essex Co. England, arrived in New England in 1632, settled in Cambridge, Mass. John White (uncle of Peregrine, s of William, & Ann (Fuller) White) came to Norfolk 1679, where he married Mary____ & had John Nicholas, b. in Norfolk 1689"[36]

One of the largest inaccuracies as it relates to the search of this White Line is the attribution of John White, d.1730 to the Henry White II line comingling Henry's son John White, b.1776 (also known as the twin) with John White, d.1730. Hopefully the documentation and Y-DNA analysis attributed to these profiles will provide proof of this second John White line to John White, d.1719 who died in Isle of Wight in 1719 and left the will attached to his profile.

It’s clear that as it relates to the White Family, Ms. Winslow’s beautiful work must be used with careful judgment.


General John Elliott Wood - White Family Tree

In the 1950s General John Elliott Wood compiled and sold copies of a genealogy chart he prepared of the White family that split it into four branches labeled “Henry”, “John”, “George”, and “William”. [37] Wood worked at the Currituck County Courthouse and also authored an article published in the Sunday, September 4, 1955, edition of The Virginian-Pilot and Portsmouth Star newspaper of Norfolk, VA. titled 'The Whites of Tidewater: A Study of Man's Growth in the New World'. The article discusses General Wood's research on four branches of the White family from the 1600's. (chart and article attached). Accompanying the article is a graphic picture of the three Jamestown ships, the first of hundreds of ships that brought permanent English settlers to the Tidewater region during the years 1607-1699. Wood speculates about possible origins of the family and discusses what life would have been like in the early colony and the importance (and involvement) of religious leadership of several lines of the family. He made his White Family chart available for purchase for $1.

David Glynn Lowe Update of Wood's White Family Tree

In May of 2007 David Lowe compiled a significate amount of new research for a reunion of some of the decedents of John White, d.1730 and Sarah Clare entitled "The Whites of Rockahock - Chowan County, NC". He also included a substantial rework of the original Wood Tree (attached).

Wood was likely to have used Winslow as a reference for his White Family Chart as he includes the same inaccuracy in his location of John White, d.1730 within the Henry White II line. 'Henry II' is the renowned Quaker poet who, in 1698, wrote the oldest existing poem in the southern states for his students as the head of the Little River Quaker Meeting School in Perquimans County, NC. , migrating to Perquimans County by land grant in 1663.

Wood also includes a family line under "George". George White was an Anglican priest who migrated from Nansemond County along the James River and, with his sons, acquired land grants along the Chowan River. One of his descendants, Luke White, owned the land known as “White Landing at Rockahock'. A 1764 Chowan County deed notes that he was a ‘ferryman'. Later, Luke's son, George White, developed a plantation just south of “Greenfield Plantation on the Albemarle Sound. [38]

There was also a family line for "John" showing a descendent "Thomas" clearly Thomas White, d.1761 who pioneered into Perquimans County from Isle of Wight and a "William" William White.

Lowe with research assistance from Hilda Rae Harrell Goodwin and C. Frank Phelps, made hand drawn corrections to the original Wood chart realigning both John White, d.1730 (from the Henry White II) and William White to John White, d.1719 who died in Isle of Wight and left a will in 1719.

Additionally, Lowe suggested that John White, d.1719 could have been the John White married to Eady Llewellen although this claim has not been validated and needs continued research.


Other Researchers

Independently, at least three subsequent researchers, including Eula Elizabeth White Wiley (1922) [39], Helen White DeWaard and Virgil White[40], Donna M. Shumate and Willard E. White[41], have also researched and validated the paper documentation of the John White line to John White, d.1719 in Isle of Wight, Virginia. Although his father is yet positively identified (shown on this page as John White b. abt. 1609), John White, d.1719 appears almost certain to be the father of John White, d.1730 (who was incorrectly identified as a son of Henry White II by both Winslow and Wood), Thomas White, d.1761 (correctly identified as a son of John White by Wood), William White (who had his own branch in the original chart by Wood), and Joseph White (not listed on the Wood Chart).

Y-DNA analysis from descendants from these family lines also confirms this assumption with recent testing conducted on various White descendants from these lines sharing a consistent MRCA (Most Recent Common Ancestor) to that of John White, d.1719. Details appear on the John White, d.1719 page.


Other Lines Of White Surnames and their Relationship

I). Relationship to John White d. Abt. 1673, Lancaster, MA. and his son John White b.1628 —- Closely Related

The White Family of South Petherton, Somerset, England has been thoroughly researched and documented by Almira Larkin White in her 1912 genealogy "Ancestry of John Barber White and of his Descendants". The earliest immigrant of this family John White d. Abt. 1673 is known to have traveled to New England in1638 becoming one of the earliest of the White surnamed descendants in that region, initially settling in Salam and eventually moving to Lancaster, MA. [42]

John White d. Abt. 1673 and his wife Joane West are reported to have had five children that were baptized in Somerset, England, with four of them having immigrated with them to Salam, MA in 1638. Additionally, three other children were born in Salam/Wenham, including Josiah White b. 1643.

Two documented descendants of Josiah White b. 1643 (Son of John White Lancaster, MA) show a genetic distance on the FamilyTreeDNA Y-111 Y-DNA test that support a conclusion that descendants of John White, d.1719 Isle of Wight and Josiah White b. 1643 share a significant likelihood of a common ancestor around 12 generations, suggesting a possibility that John White d. Abt. 1673 could be the common ancestor. [43] An analysis of the Y-DNA participants in the FamilyTreeDNA White Surname Project Group utilizing the Y-DNA Family Grouping APP (shown in attachment as I-M253 Haplo Group 22) indicates that these descendants are genetically very close.

The first born son of John White d. Abt. 1673 and his wife Joane West, John White b.1628, was baptized on June 1, 1628 in Somerset, England. John White b.1628 is not mentioned in his father’s will of 1673 but is mentioned in his grandfather Richard West will of 1643 where Richard bequeathed a two year old Bay mare to his grandson[44]. This suggests that the 15 year old boy was in Somerset, England in 1643 and did not travel with his father, mother, and other siblings to Salem, MA in 1638.

Two Y-DNA testers with White surnames and a documented lineage to John White-Lancaster, MA show a more distant, although highly correlated, MRCA with John White d.1719. It is known that John White Lancaster had a son John White b.1628 that immigrated to Massachusetts with his father and Joane West (his mother) but disappeared from Lancaster records. Could this John White have immigrated down to the Virginia Colony from Massachusetts?

There have also been researchers who have suggested that Joane West's brother Henry West and his wife were killed by an Indian Massacre of 1644 leaving behind two young brothers, one of which was William West, who would have been cousins to the John White b. 1628 in Lancaster.

While the John White d. Abt. 1673, Lancaster, MA. family is genetically extremely close to John White and Henry White (they all share the I-M253 Group 22 Haplo Group), the genetic difference likely too great for John White b.1628, Son of John White d. Abt. 1673, Lancaster, MA. to be the father of John White d.1719.

II). Relationship to Henry White of York County, VA (married to Mary Croshaw) —- Slightly More Distantly Related

An analysis of participants in the White Surname Project of FamilyTreeDNA database[45] and analyzed using the Y-DNA Grouping App[46] appears to strongly validate the likelihood that there were two Henry White families in the Colonial, VA region around the same time period. Henry White the Quaker (first married Rebecca Arnold) and secondly, Henry White of York County, VA (married to Mary Croshaw).

Henry White the Quaker includes an individual (Kit #982150) that shows a very close genetic distance to John White d.1719, John White, and the family of John White d. Abt. 1673, Lancaster, MA. establishing the I-M253 Haplo Group 22 (attached).

Henry White of York County, VA (married to Mary Croshaw) show descendants on both Wikitree and FamilySearch [47]that include Nicholas White and Richard White. Additionally, several White Group Project Participants on FamilytreeDNA (Kits #B353724, #513550 and #71123) also associate their KITS with these individuals. If this research is correct, this would associate Henry White of York County, VA with the I-M253 Haplo Group 21 (attached).

I-M253 Haplo Group 21 & 22 are slightly more distantly related suggesting a genetic distance between the groups (connection) of several more generations prior to the two Henry Whites.


III). Relationship to John White d. Abt. 1717, Isle of Wight, VA. (married to Eady Llewellyn) --- Unknown and presumed son John White d. 23 Jan 1726 --- Unrelated , as researched and documented by Jim White

(Note: The wikitree page for John White d. 23 Jan 1726 does not include the documented research of Jim White [48] [49]and shows unsubstantiated children from this family)

Various researchers have speculated that the White family of Lower Norfolk County in Virginia are related to the Quaker Whites John White, d.1719, John White, and Henry White who were family lines originally from Isle of Wight that migrate into North Carolina.

This claim includes the assumption that John White d. 23 Jan 1726 was the son of John White Sr., d.1717 and Eady Llewellyn based in part on research by Jim White.[50] [51]

It is known that records have been located in Isle of Wight Co. showing that a John White of the southern branch of Elizabeth River in Lower Norfolk Co. was married to Eady Llewellyn before 1664. She was a daughter of Thomas and Sarah Llewellyn (Thomas Llewellyn was deceased by 1664) at which time a John White appointed Arthur Benford of Chuckatuck (which was a town in Isle of Wight Co.) as his attorney to receive from Paul Luke land which belonged by inheritance to John White's wife Eady. Paul Luke was the administrator of Thomas Llewellyn's property, and he subsequently married the widow, Sarah Llewellyn.

So far, no record has been found showing the actual date of marriage of John White and his wife Eady, nor has any information been located showing any children for John and Eady (Llewellyn) White.

Jim White has strong documentation for his line through John White d. 23 Jan 1726 and geographical proximity makes it possible that John White Sr., d.1717 and Eady Llewellyn were his parents. Additional research is needed on this.

Jim White's research claims lineage to John White d. 23 Jan 1726 and references a Will filed in Isle of Wight that references children Valentine, William, and Jonathon, Millicent, Jane, and Mary, and wife Elizabeth.

If Jim White's research is correct, members of this White Family are included in the R-M269 Haplo Group 126. (although notably several members of this group reference a lineage to a John White d. 1729 --- Kits #155903 and #B640281 --- which appear inconsistent with the documentation to John White d. 23 Jan 1726). More research is needed.

All of these individuals are genetically close and share the R-M269 Haplo-group. Descendants of John White, d.1719, including John White and Henry White, carry the I-M253 Haplo-group which makes any close relationship to the John White d. 23 Jan 1726 line a genetic impossibility.

As the relationship between John White Sr., d.1717 and Eady Llewellyn and John White d. 23 Jan 1726 has not been verified, no claim can be made concerning John White Sr., d.1717 and the Quaker White Family.


IV). Relationship to John White d. bef. 1744, Hanover County, VA. --- Unrelated

There are at least three participants in the FamilyTreeDNA White Project (https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/white/activity-feed) that claim to be descendants of John White d. 23 Jan 1726, including Jeremiah White, d.1793 (Kit 316244) and John Martin White, b.1743 (Kit 473323) that genetically come from the R-M269 Haplo Group 92 (as mentioned previously Jim White's group is R-M269 Haplo Group 126). It appears there is additional research required to sort, differentiate, and assign R-M269 Haplo Group 92 & 126 to the White Families of Lower Norfolk and Hanover County, VA.

A Hanover County Y-DNA study is currently underway [52]

Again, as this group is documented to the R-M269 Haplo Group, they are not related (during the relevant time period) to descendants of John White, d.1719, including John White and Henry White.


V). Relationship to "Captain" John White, Merchant/Burgess, Jamestown, VA. --- Unknown

There was a "Captain" John White who was a member of the Virginia House of Burgesses in 1641/2. [53][54]

There was a John White transported to Warrasquinoake at the age of 21 on June 23, 1635 on the America [55][56]as part of a patent by John Moore[57][There was also a John White transported to Henrico County by Capt. Thomas Osborne in 1637.][58]

There was a patent recorded for a John White for 350 acres in James City County on April 29, 1639 N upon the Chickahominy River for the transport of individuals including a Richard Moore.[59]

Documentary records show that in 1644, a merchant/politician named John White acquired an acre of land near the old burial ground [A Map of James City, Virginia in the book ‘Jamestowne Ancestors 1607-1699' by Virginia L.H. Davis]. This appears to be validated by recent excavations at Jamestown [1] revealing a house and warehouse on a site belonging to a John White. The warehouse was built sometime after the mid-1620s and burned sometime in the 1650s.

"Captain" John White is known to have had Children[60]

  • John
  • Elizabeth (m William Spencer)
  • Mary (m Thomas Holt)

Boddie also states that son John White made his will in 1679 and bequeathed his property to his two his two sisters, Mary White and Lucy Corker, the latter being a half sister with no mention of a son or any other male heirs in the will.

Boddie and others have suggested that this line of the White family dies out as the only son of Captain John White mentions no male heirs in his will and leaves his estate to his sisters. However, the Surry Tax Tithables mention many surnamed Whites, including William, Charles, Thomas, George, and a new John 1702 in Southwark Parrish and Lawnes Creek, with multiple related transactions between themselves and others, including Newsum, Price, and Nicolles. This could imply a more extended family of brothers and/or relations. Further work needs to be done on identifying this family that may have a progenitor of Captain John White or one of his brothers.

Is it possible that the John White had a son John and omitted him in his will? The 1679 Will does not mention any sons but cancels debts and leaves property to John Price and William Newsom and mentions a horse running at black water. Could it be possible that John White, d.1719 descended from a brother or uncle of this White family in Surry?

Will need to research the likelihood this might happen and the possible reasons (omitted because he married into Quaker faith during a difficult period for them in Virginia, already received inheritance, etc.) The family names of the Children (Elizabeth, Mary, John) are consistent with those used by John White, d.1719 as are the other families that maintain association through the generations (Jordan, Moore, etc.) and become Quakers.

As a separate hypothesis of possible John White d.1719 lineage, much had been made of the Surry John White d.1679 not leaving any male heirs in his will (he only leaves property to his sisters). Had John White d.1719 been a participant/sympathizer of the 1676 rebellion that certainly would have been a reason not to mention him in a 1679 Surry Will --- particularly if he was from the merchant/politician family and (as reported by many) Captain John White was killed in the rebellion and burning of Jamestowne. This also warrants further investigation.

Relationship Unknown as no descendants have been located --- much more research needs to be conducted.


VI). Relationship to Mordecai White --- Distant

Several researchers have suggested the Mordecai White line that settles into Bertie County, NC were descended through John White, d.1719 Isle of Wight and John White Sr., d.1717 (https://www.ourfamtree.org/browse.php/Mordecai-White/p38757). This assumptions suggests John White Sr., d.1717 received a land warrant in 1701in Bath Co., NC. and eventually makes his way to Chowan and Perquimans Co.

Lee White (Kit B179346) is a documented descendant of Mordecai White and carries the I-M253 Haplogroup. However, the genetic distance between Lee White and members of the John White, d.1719 Isle of Wight line is 35 at Y-111. As no documented descendants of John White Sr., d.1717 have been identified, his Haplo group is not known.

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  2. Kit #B653883
  3. https://digital.lib.ecu.edu/13772
  4. https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C9BKJA_enUS740US740&hl=en-US&q=john+elliott+wood+currituck+courthouse+nc&spell=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjntMerxtv5AhVIhIkEHTV9B14QBSgAegQIARAC&biw=1080&bih=691&dpr=2#imgrc=9lob7JYfIFha8M
  5. http://ncgenweb.us/pasquotank/genealogy-by-john-elliott-wood/
  6. https://www.wikitree.com/photo/jpg/White-70078
  7. https://archive.org/details/genesisofwhitefa00whit/page/36/mode/2up?ref=ol&view=theater
  8. REW claims documented to George White, Sr. b. 1759 in Bertie County. General John Elliott Wood (updated by David Lowe) identify George Sr. thru Reverend George White
  9. Whites of Rockahock
  10. https://encyclopediavirginia.org/entries/church-of-england-in-virginia/
  11. https://archive.org/details/virginiaimmigran0000mcca
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  14. http://www.josephsmithsr.com/lucymack/getperson.php?personID=I31101&tree=josephsmithsr
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  16. https://books.google.com/books?id=mTZPDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA188&lpg=PA188&dq=christened+on+August+24,+1558+in+Hastings,+Sussex,+Eng.+william+white&source=bl&ots=8O1kbQjMo-&sig=ACfU3U0ivzclC9J_tu1hqQiY4YhJVsQkcw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj97e_LgL35AhXbpIkEHbguBzIQ6AF6BAgDEAI#v=onepage&q=christened%20on%20August%2024%2C%201558%20in%20Hastings%2C%20Sussex%2C%20Eng.%20william%20white&f=false
  17. https://archive.org/details/TheGenesisOfTheUnitedStates/page/n639/mode/2up?q=white
  18. https://www.packrat-pro.com/ships/america.htm
  19. https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/records/item/221609-john-white-of-virginia-and-north-carolina-and-some-of-his-descendants-with-supplements-on-the-families-jordan-toms-henry-white-woody-thompson-perry-laman?viewer=1&offset=18#page=1&viewer=picture&o=&n=0&q=
  20. https://books.google.com/books/about/The_White_Family_Chronicle.html?id=Ae1tzQEACAAJ
  21. * Paternal relationship is confirmed through Y-chromosome DNA testing. Charles White, FTDNA kit #B653883, and his 7th cousin, [[|WEW]], FTDNA kit #xxxxx, match at a Genetic Distance of 1 on 111 markers thereby confirming their direct paternal lines back to their MRCA John White d.1719. FTDNA indicates that the probability the two share a common ancestor within the last 7 generations is 97.73% and within the last 9 generations is 99.4%.
  22. * Paternal relationship is confirmed through Y-chromosome DNA testing. Charles White, FTDNA kit #B653883, and his 7th cousin, [[|AQW]], FTDNA kit #xxxxx, match at a Genetic Distance of 2 on 111 markers thereby confirming their direct paternal lines back to their MRCA John White d.1719. FTDNA indicates that the probability the two share a common ancestor within the last 7 generations is 91.95% and within the last 9 generations is 97.32%.
  23. * Paternal relationship is confirmed through Y-chromosome DNA testing. Charles White, FTDNA kit #B653883, and his 7th cousin, [[|JTW]], FTDNA kit #xxxxx, match at a Genetic Distance of 1 on 67 markers thereby confirming their direct paternal lines back to their MRCA John White d.1719. FTDNA indicates that the probability the two share a common ancestor within the last 7 generations is 91.89% and within the last 9 generations is 96.77%.
  24. * Paternal relationship is confirmed through Y-chromosome DNA testing. Charles White, FTDNA kit #B653883, and his 7th cousin, [[|MW]], FTDNA kit #xxxxx, match at a Genetic Distance of 1 on 67 markers thereby confirming their direct paternal lines back to their MRCA John White d.1719. FTDNA indicates that the probability the two share a common ancestor within the last 7 generations is 92.45% and within the last 9 generations is 97.06%.
  25. * Paternal relationship is confirmed through Y-chromosome DNA testing. Charles White, FTDNA kit #B653883, and his 7th cousin, Charles Thomas White Sr., FTDNA kit #372673, match at a Genetic Distance of 0 on 111 markers thereby confirming their direct paternal lines back to their MRCA John White d.1719. FTDNA indicates that the probability the two share a common ancestor within the last 7 generations is 99.53% and within the last 9 generations is 99.9%.
  26. * Paternal relationship is confirmed through Y-chromosome DNA testing. Charles White, FTDNA kit #B653883, and his 7th cousin, [[|CRW]], FTDNA kit #xxxxx, match at a Genetic Distance of 2 on 111 markers thereby confirming their direct paternal lines back to their MRCA John White d.1719. FTDNA indicates that the probability the two share a common ancestor within the last 7 generations is 91.85% and within the last 9 generations is 97.27%.
  27. * Paternal relationship is confirmed through Y-chromosome DNA testing. Charles White, FTDNA kit #B653883, and his 7th cousin, [[|CW]], FTDNA kit #xxxxx, match at a Genetic Distance of 3 on 111 markers thereby confirming their direct paternal lines back to their MRCA John White d.1719. FTDNA indicates that the probability the two share a common ancestor within the last 7 generations is 92.3% and within the last 9 generations is 97.48%.
  28. * Paternal relationship is confirmed through Y-chromosome DNA testing. Charles White, FTDNA kit #B653883, and his 7th cousin, [[|WSW]], FTDNA kit #xxxxx, match at a Genetic Distance of 0 on 37 markers thereby confirming their direct paternal lines back to their MRCA John White d.1719. FTDNA indicates that the probability the two share a common ancestor within the last 7 generations is 95.73% and within the last 9 generations is 98.26%
  29. * Paternal relationship is confirmed through Y-chromosome DNA testing. Charles White, FTDNA kit #B653883, and his 7th cousin, [[|CEW]], FTDNA kit #xxxxx, match at a Genetic Distance of 1 on 37 markers thereby confirming their direct paternal lines back to their MRCA John White d.1719. FTDNA indicates that the probability the two share a common ancestor within the last 7 generations is 95.73% and within the last 9 generations is 98.26%
  30. * Paternal relationship is confirmed through Y-chromosome DNA testing. Charles White, FTDNA kit #B653883, and his 7th cousin, [[|LPC]], FTDNA kit #xxxxx, match at a Genetic Distance of 1 on 111 markers thereby confirming their direct paternal lines back to their MRCA John White d.1719. FTDNA indicates that the probability the two share a common ancestor within the last 7 generations is 99.73% and within the last 9 generations is 99.4%
  31. * Paternal relationship is estimated through Y-chromosome DNA testing Charles White, FTDNA kit #B653883, and [[|KAW]], FTDNA kit #944931, match at a Genetic Distance of 5 on 111 markers. FTDNA indicates that the modified probability the two share a common ancestor within the last 12 generations is 98.31% and within the last 14 generations is 99.43%.
  32. * Paternal relationship is estimated through Y-chromosome DNA testing. Charles White, FTDNA kit #B653883, and Derek White, FTDNA kit #464089, match at a Genetic Distance of 2 at 111 markers. FTDNA indicates that the modified probability the two share a common ancestor within the last 12 generations is 97.76% and within the last 14 generations is 99.05%.
  33. * Paternal relationship is confirmed through Y-chromosome DNA testing. Charles White, FTDNA kit #B653883, and , Lee White, FTDNA kit #B179346, match at a Genetic Distance of 35 on 111 markers which would not confirm their direct paternal lines back to their MRCA John White d.1730. FTDNA indicates that the probability the two share a common ancestor within the last 7 generations is xx.xx% and within the last 9 generations is xx.x%.
  34. "The Whites of Tidewater: A Study Of Man's Growth in the New World", Virginia-Pilot and The Portsmouth Star, Sunday, September 4, 1944, page 8-B
  35. https://digital.lib.ecu.edu/13772
  36. "The History of Perquimans County", pg. 428
  37. https://www.wikitree.com/photo/jpg/White-70078
  38. Whites of Rockahock
  39. https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/records/item/102568-redirection
  40. https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/records/item/221609-john-white-of-virginia-and-north-carolina-and-some-of-his-descendants-with-supplements-on-the-families-jordan-toms-henry-white-woody-thompson-perry-laman?viewer=1&offset=18#page=1&viewer=picture&o=&n=0&q=
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  42. https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/44551/?offset=#page=49&viewer=picture&o=&n=0&q=
  43. Derek White and KW are documented descendants of John White Lancaster, MA and are a genetic distance of 2 and 5, respectively on the Y-111 Y-DNA test to Charles White a documented descendent of John White, d.1719
  44. https://ia803200.us.archive.org/11/items/ancestryofjohnba00whit/ancestryofjohnba00whit.pdf
  45. https://www.familytreedna.com/public/white?iframe=yresults
  46. http://www.ydnagroupingapp.com
  47. https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/LKC2-YJ4/henry-white-1635-1712
  48. http://jimserver.net/downloads/White_Family.pdf
  49. http://jimserver.net/article/the-white-family-of-norfolk-county.php
  50. http://jimserver.net/downloads/White_Family.pdf
  51. http://jimserver.net/article/the-white-family-of-norfolk-county.php
  52. https://whenceicame.blogspot.com/2018/04/what-happened-to-mr-john-whites-lands.html
  53. Boddie, John Bennett, "Colonial Surry" (1948), p 93
  54. The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, Vol. 9, No. 1 (Jul., 1901), p 51. Note this refers to him as Mr John White rather than Captain John White.
  55. https://www.packrat-pro.com/ships/america.htm
  56. http://www.evmedia.com/virginia/
  57. https://lva.primo.exlibrisgroup.com/discovery/fulldisplay?docid=alma990007976560205756&context=L&vid=01LVA_INST:01LVA&lang=en&search_scope=MyInstitution_noAER&adaptor=Local%20Search%20Engine&tab=LibraryCatalog&query=any,contains,John%20Moore%201635&offset=0
  58. Early Virginia Immigrants, 1623-1666 (from book published 1912 by George Cabell Greer
  59. https://archive.org/details/cavalierspioneer14nuge/page/152/mode/2up?q=%22john+White%22
  60. Boddie, John Bennett, Southside Virginia Families, Reprint Genealogical Pub Co, Baltimore, 1999, I:168-170
  • David G. Lowe with research assistance from Hilda Rae Harrell Goodwin and C. Frank Phelps, with hand drawn corrections (2006) to the original research by General John Elliott Wood (1950s)

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