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John Arundell (1421 - 1473)

Sir John Arundell
Born in Bideford, Devon, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Son of and
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married 25 Apr 1446 [location unknown]
Husband of — married 5 Mar 1451 in Lanherne,,Cornwall, Englandmap
Descendants descendants
Father of , , , , , and
Died at age 52 in Lanherne, Cornwall, Englandmap
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Biography

Sir John Arundell/Arundell
b. 9 June 1421 in Bideford, Devon, England.[1]
d. 12 NOV 1473 Lanherne, Cornwall

Parents

John Arundell and Margaret Burgersh.

Marriage

m.1 Elizabeth Morley (Father: Thomas Morley, 5th Baron Morley). Issue:
  • Anne Arundell
m.2 Katherine Chideocke. (marriage settlement 05 Mar 1451). Issue:
  • 1. Catherine
  • 2. Elizabeth
  • 3. Thomasine
  • 4.Margaret
  • 5. Ellen
  • 6.Dorothy
  • 7. Jane
  • 8.Thomas Arundell (1454 -01 Oct 1485)

Residence

  • Lanherne, Cornwall

Occupation

  • served in France during reign of Henry VI

Sources

  1. ↑ Date given in the IPM of his grandfather,
  • Marlyn Lewis [1] Sir John Arundel, Under-Sheriff, Sheriff, & Vice-Admiral of Cornwall, M, #14462, b. 9 June 1421, d. 12 November 1473, citing:
  • Unknown author, The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. II, p. 16, Vol. IV, p. 104, Vol. V, p. 461.
  • Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 181.
  • Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 518-519.
  • Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 41-42.
  • Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 19-20.
  • Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 141.
  • Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 183.
  • Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 217.
  • Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 238.
  • Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 310.
  • Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 461.
  • Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 166-167.
  • Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 74.
  • Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 571-572.
  • Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 157.
  • Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 219.
  • Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 326.
  • Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 679-683.
  • Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 73-74.
  • The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, by George Edward Cokayne, Vol. VIII, p. 523.
  • Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 179.
  • Webb, Edward Doran, ed. Notes by The 12th Lord Arundell of Wardour on The Family History (Longmans, Green, and Co., London, 1916) Page 5




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Athey-67 Darlene (Athey) Athey-Hill
Can an approximate date of birth be ascertained?
posted by Darlene (Athey) Athey-Hill
Cochoit-2 Joe Cochoit
The Arundell family of Lanherne has no connection to the Arundel/Fitz Alan family. You have posted this same connection to two completely different families which makes me unsure what you are trying to say.
posted by Joe Cochoit
C (Gervais) Anonymous
The links to other family in this profile are confused (leading to Capell-36)

However, on FitzAlan-451 it shows "Archaelogia Cambresis http://tinyurl.com/mjga552 says "...Morant, in his History of Essex, says Sir Giles of Rayne Hall married, firstly, Margaret, daughter of Sir Richard Roos Ros-181, younger son of William Ros-9, Lord Roos of Belvoir, by whom he had issue Henry Capel, and secondly, Isabel, daughter of Sir John Newton of Wake,by his father (i.e., in St. Bartholomew's Church, by the Exchange). He married daughter and co-heir of Sir John Newton alias Craddock, Knt.,Newton-252 and had issue Sir Edward, ancestor of Lord Essex, and Margaret, married to Robert Warde of Brooke, alias Kirkby, in co. Norfolk, gent. (argent, on a chevron azure three garbs or). Robert Ward Warde-148 and Margaret Capell Capell-36 his wife had issue, Henry Ward of Postwick, M.P. for Norwich in 1553, who by his wife Margaret, daughter ..."

posted by C (Gervais) Anonymous
Cochoit-2 Joe Cochoit
Arundel-2 and Arundell-45 appear to represent the same person because: Reproposing to reverse the merge. The family of Arundell of Lanherne is properly spelled with 2 l's. This is also useful in distinguishing them from the unrelated family of the Earls of Arundel. http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=arundell+of+lanherne
posted by Joe Cochoit
Cochoit-2 Joe Cochoit
Arundel-2 and Arundell-45 do not represent the same person because: The family of Arundell of Lanherne is properly spelled with 2 l's. This is also useful in distinguishing them from the unrelated family of the Earls of Arundel. http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=arundell+of+lanherne

The merge just needs to be reversed.

posted by Joe Cochoit
Atkinson-107 John Atkinson
Arundell-45 and Arundel-2 appear to represent the same person because: These two profiles both have a daughter Ellen, with wife Catherine Chidiocke. Arundel would appear to be the most appropriate LNAB (?)
posted by John Atkinson
Hine-437 David Hine
John Arundel VII (Arundel-2) married Elizabeth Morley (Morley-253)first on 25 April 1446, then married (2nd)Catherine Chidioke (Chidioke-7) on 5 March 1451. Wouldn’t the only child Anne (Arundel-5) of Arundel-2 and Morley-253 most likely be born between 1446 and 1451? Her date of birth is given as 1455 on her profile, but in the sources it says “ Marlyn Lewis [1] Anne Arundell, F, #46983, b. circa 1446, d. after 14 February 1486…1479 this seems to indicate different DOB and DOD.
posted by David Hine

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