André
Mignier
aka Migner, Lagacé
Born in Québec, Canada, Nouvelle-France
Ancestors 
Son of André Mignier
and Jacquette (Michaud) Michel
Brother of
Marie Mignier, Françoise Mignier, Marie Anne (Mignier) Mignier dit Lagacé, Marie Madeleine Mignier and Michel (Menié) Mignier
Husband of
Marie Charlotte Pelletier
— married
10 Nov 1693 in Rivière-Ouelle, Canada, Nouvelle-France
Husband of
Françoise Ouellet
— married
31 May 1701 in Rivière-Ouelle, Canada, Nouvelle-France
Descendants 
Father of
André (Ménié) Mignier dit Lagacé, Marie Françoise Migner, Joseph (Mignier) Lagassé, Antoine Minier, Marie Angélique (Menie) Mignier, Jean Bernard Minier, Bernard Migner, Marie Madeleine (Lagace) Lagacé, Marie Anne Mignier, Marie Catherine Minier, Marie Théotiste Lagacé and Charles (Lagace) Lagacé
Died
at age 58
in Sainte-Anne-de-la-Pocatière, Canada, Nouvelle-France
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Biographie
André Mignier lived
in Canada, Nouvelle-France.
in Canada, Nouvelle-France.
André Mignier est né le 4 octobre 1669 et a été baptisé le 6 octobre 1669 à Notre-Dame de Québec, Nouvelle-France[1][2], fils d'André Mignier et de Jacquette Michel.
Baptême/Baptism: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L993-F9MB-2?i=297&wc=9RLX-4WG%3A17585101%2C19508101%2C19508102&cc=1321742
Mariage
C. de m. André Megner, fils d’André Megner et Jaquette Michel; et Marie Charlotte Peltier, fille de Jean Peltier et Anne Langlois, passé le 3 novembre 1693, déposé le (1er juillet 1694). Vol XVIII pg 78 Notaire Louis Chambalon[3]
Il a épousé Marie-Charlotte Pelletier le 10 novembre 1693 à l'église L'Assomption de la Rivière-Ouelle.[4]
(Marie Charlotte Pelletier est décédée le 2 septembre 1699)
Mariage 2
Il a épousé Marie-Françoise Ouellet le 31 mai 1701 à l'église L'Assomption de la Rivière-Ouelle.[5]
Marie-Françoise Ouellet est décédée avant lui.
Décès
Il est décédé le 21 novembre 1727 et a été inhumé le 22 à Ste-Anne-de-la-Pocatière. [6]
Biography
André Mignier lived
in Canada, Nouvelle-France.
in Canada, Nouvelle-France.
André Mignier, born 4 October 1669 bapt. 6th Québec (ND), son of André Mignier and Jacquette Michel.[1]
Recensement 1681 Census: Village de St-Joseph
- André Migniere 41 ; Jaquette Michelle, sa femme, 44 ; enfants : André 12, Marie 10, Françoise 8, Marie 5, Jaquette 2 ; 1 fusil. 3 bêtes à cornes ; 15 arpents en valeur.[7]
In 1686, at Chiqnitou dit Beaubassin, Gabriel (sic), aged 19, was living with his parents, LAGASSE (sic), aged 50 (sic), and Marguerite (sic), aged 48, and his four siblings: Jeanne (sic), aged 13, Marguerite (sic), aged 10, Anne (sic), aged 8, and Pierre (sic), aged 6. The family owned 2 guns and was living on 12 arpents of cultivable land with 2 cattle and 8 hogs.[8]
- André Meigné married Marie Charlotte Peltier 10 November 1693 Rivière-Ouelle;
André Migny (31) married Françoise Houallet (Ouellet) 31 May 1701 Rivière-Ouelle
Death
André Megné widower of Marie Françoise Ouellet died on 21 Nov 1727 and was buried on the 22nd in Ste-Anne-de-la-Pocatière.[9]
- Place: Sainte-Anne-de-la-Pocatière, [10]
Research notes
Recherches: Le registre de mariage avec Marie-Charlotte Pelletier à Rivière-Ouelle peut être trouvé via le nom de Andre Meigne. Le registre de mariage avec Marie-Françoise Ouellet à Rivière-Ouelle peut être trouvé via le nom de Andre Migny. Le registre de sépulture à La Pocatière peut être trouvé via le nom de Andre Megne.
There is a LARGE confusion as to which André Migné died when, of the father and son. The evidence on the subject is as follows:
Both deaths are recorded in Ste-Anne-de-la-Pocatière, and both list the man who died as widower of Marie Françoise Ouellet.
The first is the funeral on 22 November 1727, which does not give an age for the deceased, death having occurred the previous day.[11]
The second is on 5 Feb 1729, death having occurred the previous day, this one clearly writes out the age of about 59 âgé d'environ cinquante neuf ans[12]
When the son of André and Françoise, André, marries on 19 Jan 1728 in L'Islet, to add to the confusion, neither is listed as deceased.[13] When their son Joseph Mignay (sic) marries on 16 Aug 1730 in Cap-St-Ignace, both are listed as deceased.[14]
The following act was found in BANQ
Ordonnance de l'intendant Dupuy qui commet le sieur Jannot (Janot), notaire à la Rivière-Ouelle, pour procéder à l'élection d'un tuteur et d'un subrogé-tuteur aux mineurs de défunt André Migner (Mignier dit Lagacé), habitant de la Grande-Anse . - 15 février 1728[15]
The attached record (at source) on 15 February 1728 asks for the naming of tutors for the 3 boys and 5 girls, all minor children of the deceased. So it is certainly not about André Migné the elder, whose last child was born in 1682.
The following 3 acts in the notary's inventory clearly show the younger André as deceased, as well as his wife (named incorrectly Marie and Marie Madeleine on 2 of them).
- -Contrat de mariage de Augustin Lavoy, fils de feu Jean de Lavoy et de Marie Madeleine Boucher; et Marie-Angélique Migné, fille de feu André Migné et de feu Marie Ouellet (janv. 1728). Vol XIV pg 37 Notaire Étienne Janneau[3]
-Vente des biens de feu André Migné (fév. 1728). Vol XIV pg 37 Notaire Étienne Janneau[3]
- -Partage de la terre de feu André Migné et de feu Marie Madeleine Ouellet, son épouse (7 mars 1728). Vol XIV pg 37 Notaire Étienne Janneau[3]
They consist of the marriage contract of their daughter Marie Angélique in January 1728, the sale of André's property in February, and the apportioning of the land of the deceased couple in March.
So the younger André died in 1727. This still leaves the 1729 funeral with very large glaring outpoints. The elder André was widower of Jacquette Michel, and per an ordinance of 1727 by Intendant Dupuy was around 95 years old then. NOT 59. 1681 census gave him the age of 41, so in 1727 he would have been around 87, and his appearance could have made him look older. Too much sacramental wine drunk by the missionnary Maurice Imbault, who performed both funerals? Or recopying his notes in 1729 and mixing up the two men? There are obviously missing records for Ste-Anne-de-la-Pocatière, a search for funerals for the period 1726 to 1729 inclusive only brings up 5 funerals in Drouin collection. Françoise Ouellet's funeral being among the missing ones.Liard-1
In the original 1686 census at Chiqnitou dit Beaubassin, André Mignier is written as LAGASSE, Jacquette is written as Marguerite, André (son) is written as Gabriel, Francoise is written as Jeanne, Marie Anne (daughter) is written as Marguerite, Marie Madeleine is written as Anne, and Michel is written as Pierre.[16]
Sources
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 Baptism IGD
- ↑ Registres paroissiaux, collection Drouin, Québec, Notre-Dame, (Baptêmes 1621-1679) , 1667-1679, image 18 (d), et 1667-1677 image 79 (d).
- ↑ 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 BanQ Notarial acts index
- ↑ Registres paroissiaux, collection Drouin, Rivière-Ouelle, 1685-1802, image 27 (d).
- ↑ Registres paroissiaux, collection Drouin, Rivière-Ouelle, 1685-1802, image 57 (g).
- ↑ Registres paroissiaux, collection Drouin, Ste-Anne-de-la-Pocatière, 1715-1789.
- ↑ Wikisource Recensement 1681 Census selon Benjamin Sulte
- ↑ Tim Hebert; Transcription of the 1686 Acadian Census, at Port-Royal, Acadie 1686 Census Transcribed. The original census can be found at Acadian Census microfilm C-2572 of the Library and Archives Canada “Acadie Recensements 1671 – 1752,” Images 15-60;
at Chiqnitou dit Beaubassin: LAGASSE 50, Marguerite, his wife 48; children: Gabriel 19, Jeanne 13, Marguerite 10, Anne 8, Pierre 6; 2 guns, 12 arpents, 2 cattle, 8 hogs.
- ↑ Funeral record IGD
- ↑ Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 13 February 2018), memorial page for André Mignier dit Lagacé (11 Apr 1651–20 Nov 1727), Find A Grave: Memorial #151682975 , citing Sainte-Anne-de-la-Pocatière Cemetery, Sainte-Anne-de-la-Pocatiere, Bas-Saint-Laurent Region, Quebec, Canada ; Maintained by Robert Comeau (contributor 47310707) .
- ↑ Funeral 1 image IGD
- ↑ Funeral 2 image IGD
- ↑ Marriage Migné-Rousseau 1728 image IGD
- ↑ marriage Mignay-Kaouet image IGD
- ↑ BANQ 15 Feb 1728
- ↑ https://heritage.canadiana.ca/view/oocihm.lac_reel_c2572/55
- Birth, Death, Marriage, Parents, Siblings Programme de Recherche en Démographie Historique, Université de Montréal (paid subscription) PRDH: Le Programme de recherche en démographie historique (membership): Individu: 52517 PRDH
- Actes d'état civil et registres d'église du Québec (Collection Drouin), 1621 à 1997 - Gabriel Drouin, comp. Drouin Collection: Institut Généalogique Drouin IGD (membership)
- Le profile de André Mignier (#924) sur Nos Origines - André Mignier 's profile (#924) on Nos Origines
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Date : 31 mai 1701 Genre : Archives textuelles Description :Rédigé par Messire Bernard de Requeleyne, curé de Notre-Dame de Liesse (Rivière-Ouelle)
http://numerique.banq.qc.ca/patrimoine/details/52327/3349263?docref=61dgLLn4aKb-MrL7r9ZtkA http://collections.banq.qc.ca/imagette/2rj3ieOSeOFN7AK98DTX7A http://collections.banq.qc.ca/imagette/HJ_cqFMtggEZr-1uDyLVOQ
Note : décès par D. Bilodeau
Suite à une preuve soumise par Gilles Tremblay, collaborateur du site Immigrations à Bertrand Desjardins (PRDH) en oct. 2013, sa date de sépulture a été changée pour le 21 11 1727. PRDH a corrigé la fiche pour indiquer cette nouvelle date.
La preuve est le répertoire chronologique manuscrit page 30 du notaire Étienne Jeanneau: Février 1728 - vente des biens de feu André Migné et le 7 mars 1728 - partage de la terre de feu André Migné et de feu Marie Madeleine Ouellet son épouse http://bibnum2.banq.qc.ca/ bna/notaires/affichage.html?serie=01R_CN104S45
Cette confusion des dates de sépultures serait due au prêtre qui a indiqué aux 2 sépultures, que Marie Madeleine Ouellet était l'épouse.
https://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/GenealogieQuebec.aspx?genealogie=Migner_Andre&pid=924
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