John (Finney) Phinney II
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John (Finney) Phinney II (1638 - bef. 1719)

John "Christian John" Phinney II [uncertain] formerly Finney
Born in Plymouth, Plymouth Colonymap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married 10 Aug 1664 (to before 9 Mar 1719) in Barnstable, Plymouth Colonymap
Descendants descendants
Died before before age 80 in Barnstable, Barnstable, Province of Massachusetts Baymap
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Biography

John Finney is referred to as "Christian John" in this source:[1]

John Phinney was born on 24 December 1638 at Plymouth.[2] He was the son of John Phinney and Christian Patten. John Phinney married Mary Rogers, daughter of Joseph Rogers and Hannah, on 10 August 1664 at Barnstable.[3][4] John Phinney died 19 Apr 1718-09 Mar 1718/19 at Barnstable.

John Finney changed his name to Phinney.[1] His descendants generally used the spelling, Phinney.[5]

He died before 9 March 1718/9, the date his estate was inventoried. John Phiney of Barnstable, weaver, made his will, dated 19 April 1718 and proved 18 June 1719, in which he desired that after the decease of his wife, his best bed & linens were to be given to daughter Mary Eastland, the rest of his moveable estate to be divided equally between his three daughters Mary Eastland, Mercy Crocker and Reliance Morton. After the decease of his wife, the money due to him from son Ebenezer to be equally divided between his seven sons: John, Joseph, Thomas, Ebenezer, Samuel, Benjamin & Jonathan Phiney. Son John Phiney to be his sole executor. Witnesses were Moody & Martha Russel, James Paine. The inventory of his estate was taken 9 March 1718/9, totalling approximately £116, of which £90 was due on a bond, the rest in household goods.[6][7]

Known children of John and Mary (Rogers) Phinney, all recorded in Barnstable, Massachusetts were:[8][4][9][10]

  1. Deacon John, b May 5, 1665
  2. Malatiah, b Oct 1666; d Nov 1667
  3. Joseph, b Jan 26, 1667 (prob. 1667/8)
  4. Thomas, b Jan 1671
  5. Ebenezer, b Feb 18, 1673
  6. Samuel, b Nov 4, 1676
  7. Mary, b Sept 3, 1678; m John Eastland
  8. Mercy, b July 10, 1679; m Eleazar Crocker Jan 26, 1715
  9. Reliance, b Aug 27, 1681
  10. Benjamin, b June 18, 1682
  11. Jonathan, b July 30, 1684
  12. Hannah, b Mar 28, 1687; d Feb 10, 1689

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 Finney, James Albert The name and family of Finney and a genealogical record of his direct line down to 1952, published 1952. Reference page 15.
  2. "Massachusetts, Town Clerk, Vital and Town Records, 1626-2001," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-9979-HP2?cc=2061550&wc=Q4DH-G5S%3A353349701%2C353366701%2C1005976002 : 13 July 2016), Barnstable > Barnstable > Town records 1640-1774 vol 1-2 > image 246 of 663; town clerk offices, Massachusetts.
    Barnstable Town Records Vol. 1:377.
    John ye Eldest Son of John Phinny born at Plymouoth 24 of Decem 1638.
  3. Genealogical Notes of Barnstable Families, Volume 2 (Google eBook), page 225
  4. 4.0 4.1 "Massachusetts, Town Clerk, Vital and Town Records, 1626-2001," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-9979-HP2?cc=2061550&wc=Q4DH-G5S%3A353349701%2C353366701%2C1005976002 : 13 July 2016), Barnstable > Barnstable > Town records 1640-1774 vol 1-2 > image 246 of 663; town clerk offices, Massachusetts.
    Barnstable Town Records Vol. 1:377.
    John Phinney Jur and Mary Rogers Married 10 of August 1664.
  5. "The Finney Family" The New England Historical and Genealogical Register. Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1847-. (Online database: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2001-2013.) Reference Volume 148 (1994), page 325
  6. Barnstable County Probate Records Vol. 3:595 Will of John Phiney of Barnstable.
  7. Bowman, George Bowman, "The Wills of John Phinney and his son John," Mayflower Descendant, Vol. 20:()142-144. Link on Archive.org; Link on Google Books.
  8. Finney, Howard Finney-Phinney families in America : descendants of John Finney of Plymouth and Barnstable, Mass., and Bristol, R.I., of Samuel Finney of Philadelphia, Pa., and of Robert Finney of New London, Pa., published 1957. Reference page 2
  9. Ann Reeves and Alice W.A. Westgate, Mayflower Families Through 5 Generations, Thomas Rogers, Vol. 19 (Plymouth, MA: General Society of Mayflower Descendants, 2000 [1st printing]), p. 12.
  10. "Massachusetts, Town Clerk, Vital and Town Records, 1626-2001," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-9979-HP2?cc=2061550&wc=Q4DH-G5S%3A353349701%2C353366701%2C1005976002 : 13 July 2016), Barnstable > Barnstable > Town records 1640-1774 vol 1-2 > image 246 of 663; town clerk offices, Massachusetts.
    Barnstable Town Records Vol. 1:377.




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More information about his will: https://books.google.com/books?id=VbVBAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA143 (Torrey, above, cites this as MD 20:143)
posted by Rick Pierpont
Page 15 of the James A Finney book, shows his father as Finney, and says that he (meaning John of this profile) "moved to Barnstable and changed his name to Phinney". Also NEHGR 148:325 says his surname was Finney.

Having said that, my preference would be to go with Phinney or even Phinny last name (based on Barnstable Town Record), leaving Finney in the Other Name Field, along with the other name spellings found in records

Update, Torrey uses the Finney spelling as well, for his marriage to Mary Rogers

posted by S (Hill) Willson
What is the source of the LNAB spelling of Finney, please? His birth record has the spelling Phinny. Is there another primary record that uses the "F" spelling?
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
I would suggest removing the statement in the bio, "John Finney changed his name to Phinney," as his birth recorded in Barnstable uses the spelling "Phinny". His father's last marriage record uses the "Phinney" spelling as well. I did not check further back.
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
Nickname added, middle name deleted
posted by S (Hill) Willson
Yes, I agree with your suggestion Bobbie.
posted by S (Hill) Willson
Based on the source named here, he was perhaps nicknamed "Christian John". Should we change his name fields to remove Christian from middle name, and add "Christian John" to the other nicknames field, as Christian wasn't his middle name. BTW, I don't find a primary record that uses "Christian" in any form and may be a bit of fiction by the author.

In his records in Barnstable he is refered to as John Junior.

posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
Finney-533 and Phinney-46 appear to represent the same person because: same birthdate and place, same father, same death place. -46 is well sourced; -533 has sources but not directly shown. Please merge.
posted by S (Hill) Willson

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