John Thorne (1643 - bef. 1709)

Born 12 May 1643 in Lynn, Essex, Massachusetts Bay

Ancestors

Husband of Mary (Pearsall) Thorne — married 9 May 1664 in Flushing, Queens, New York

Descendants

Died before 21 Jun 1709 before age 66 in Flushing, Queens, New York

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Biography

John Thorne - Citations http://nefamilies.com/fam/groupsheetI100003374.aspx. Individual: John Thorne Birth: 1639 at: of Flushing, Queens, Long Island Marriage: 9 Mar 1664 at: Flushing, Queens, Long Island, New York Death: 23 Jul 1709 at: Flushing, Queens, Long Island Father: William Thorne Mother: Susannah Booth Spouses: Spouse: Mary Parsell Birth: ABT 1642 at: Jamaica, Queens, Long Island, New York Marriage: 9 Mar 1664 at: Flushing, Queens, Long Island, New York Death: at: , , New Jersey Father: Nicholas Parsell Mother: Mrs. Sarah Parsell Spouses: Children: Sarah Thorne William Thorne John Thorne Joseph Thorne Elizabeth Thorne Hannah Thorne Mary Thorne John Thorne is the 7th Great Grandfather of Mae Jean Burnham on my Woolsey He Descendants of Mary Pearsall Generation 1 1. MARY 1PEARSALL1-2 was born in 1643 in Flushing, Queens, New York, United States1. She died on 10 Mar 1689 in Flushing, Queens, New York. She married John Thorne, son of William Thorne Sr and Susannah Booth, in of NY3. He was born on 12 May 1643 in Hempstead, Queens, New York, United States4-5. He died on 23 Jul 1709 in Flushing, Queens, New York, USA5-6. restricting his wife's share should she remarry, and naming his son William as sole executor. He was married to Mary Pearsall (daughter of Nicholas Pearsall and Mary Van Damn) on 9 May 1664 in Flushing, Long Island, NY. Mary Pearsall was born about 1643 in Massachusetts. She died in New York. She was buried in New York. Note difference in spelling of her surname & her parents. No error they frequently slightly switched spelling of names. John Thorne and Mary Pearsall had the following children: +29 i. John Thorne. +30 ii. Joseph Thorne. +31 iii. Mary Thorne. +32 iv. Elizabeth Thorne. +33 v. Hannah Thorne. +34 vi. Sarah Thorne. +35 vii. William Thorne. http://thorn.pair.com/williamthorne1/d46.htm#P46 John Thorne & Mary Pearsall John Thorne was born about 1643 in Lynn, Essex, MA. He died after 23 Jul 1709 in Whitestone Point, Flushing, Long Island, NY. He was buried in Flushing, Long Island, NY. He resided in Flushing, Long Island, NY. JOHN THORNE:There is clear evidence that John Thorne & wife officially joined the Religious Society of Friends, but they are likely to have lived much of their life attending meeting & generally living the life of an ordinary Quaker, as many of their neighbors & children were Friends. His will was dated July 23 1709. His older brother William moved from Long Island. & John became the head of the Thorne Family on L.I. Birth date of about 1640 means not later than. ========================= John Thorne and Nicholas Pearsall were among the inhabitants of Flushing who were offered the status of freement of Connecticut " if they would have it" May 13, 1664. This was at the time that the English government was preparing to absorb the colony of New Netherlands, of which Long Island was a part. Connecticut was, of course, an English Colony, while Long Island was part of the Dutch New Netherlands. On Aug. 12, 1667 Nicholas Pearsall, Joseph Thorne, John Thorne of Flushing presented themselves to the Governor and gave their names "to be ready to serve His Majesty under his honorable command on all occasions". The island of Long Island, however, did not become English at that time. John Thorne died in 1709. His will, dated July 23, 1709, was probated the same year. He left his estate to his wife and children, restricting his wife's share should she remarry, and naming his son William as sole executor. He was married to Mary Pearsall (daughter of Nicholas Pearsall and Mary Van Damn) on 9 May 1664 in Flushing, Long Island, NY. Mary Pearsall was born about 1643 in Massachusetts. She died in New York. She was buried in New York. Note difference in spelling of her surname & her parents. No error they frequently slightly switched spelling of names. John Thorne and Mary Pearsall had the following children: +29 i. John Thorne. +30 ii. Joseph Thorne. +31 iii. Mary Thorne. +32 iv. Elizabeth Thorne. +33 v. Hannah Thorne. +34 vi. Sarah Thorne. +35 vii. William Thorne.. http://thorn.pair.com/williamthorne1/d46.htm#P46. John Thorne is the son of William Thorne and Susanna Booth. He married 9 May 1664 Mary Persall/Persell daughter of Nicholas Persall and Mary Van Damn. Children are John, Joseph, Mary, Elizabeth, Hannah, Sarah, William. On May 12, 1664 the principal English residents among the Dutch on LI were offered citizenship by the CT Assembly, a change of allegiance which never took place. The only Thorne on the Assembly's list is John Thorne of Flushing, along with Nicholas Persell, his father in law leaving us to believe that William was deceased prior, William Jr is shown to have been in NY City in 1663, leaving John the 2nd son seeming to have been considered the head of the Long Island Family. On August 12, 1667, following serious disorders in Flushing, John Thorne and Joseph Thorne, (his brother no doubt), in company with" Nicholas parcell" and eleven others from Flushing, "presented themselves to the Governor, gave in their names to be ready to serve his Maty under his honors Command upon all occasions" (CDNY:14:598). The "Valuation of Estates at Flushing 1675" shows John Thorn with: 00negeres, 06 Landes, 10 madoes, 01 horses mares, 02 oxen and boles, 08 Cowes, 02 to yere oldes, 02 yerlinges, 03 swine, 06 shepe" (DHNY:2:459). The Flushing Estimations, 29th, Septr. 1683" shows John Thorne with 50 Upland acres, 10 Meadow acres, 20 Oxen, 7 Cowes, 2 2 yere olds, 2 1 yere olds 10 sheep 00-09-10 pounds (Ibid:516). The confirmation of the original Dutch patent to Flushing by Gov. Dongan on March 24, 1685, names "the present freeholders and Inhabitants of the Towne of Flushing" including JOseph Thorne, John Thorne and Samuel thorne. The Flushing Census of 1698 also includes the three brothers, William Thorne being recorded at Hempstead, as previously noted, and for John Thorne Generation 1 (con't) brothers, William Thorne being recorded at Hempstead, as previously noted, and for John Thorne shows: John Thorne Senr & 5 Mary his wife Hannah & Sarah Wm Negros Alex wo: 3 (DNHY:1:662) The "5" on the left indicates the number of persons in the family, and the "3" in the last line the number of slaves. On June 22, 1670, "John Thorne of Flushing" conveyed "unto Anthony Field of ye aforesaid place....Fifty acers more or less situated by Mattagarison bay within ye bounds of Flush aforesaid...it being fifty acre lott yt was granted to Wm Benfield....and bounded upon ye west by land of John Lawrence, easterly with the bay & fronting southerly to ye highway & running in lenth northerly near to ye meadows of ye aforsd Jon Thorne" (Queens Co. deeds:A.85) On March 19, 1684, John Thorne also conveyed to Anthony Field "all ye mead lyne to ye Southward of A Certaine tree markt upon ye south side AF and on ye north side JT," apparently the land between Thorne's meadows and Field's previous purchase (Ibid.) Both deeds bear John Thorne's signature, but his wife's name is missing. The Will of "John Thorn at Flushing", executed January 5, 1697, and proved June 21, 1709, leaves the use of all lands and goods to wife Mary during her lifetime, with the provision that if she remarries she shall have instead 100 pounds, and rememers his 7 children, one of them Joseph. Son William Thorne appointed "my hole and Sole Executor" and "my brother Joseph Thorne" and John Tullman are made trustees and overseers. (WNYHS:2:26 cf. N. Y. Co. Wills 7:416).

John Thorne - Citations http://nefamilies.com/fam/groupsheetI100003374.aspx. Individual: John Thorne Birth: 1639 at: of Flushing, Queens, Long Island Marriage: 9 Mar 1664 at: Flushing, Queens, Long Island, New York Death: 23 Jul 1709 at: Flushing, Queens, Long Island Father: William Thorne Mother: Susannah Booth Spouses: Spouse: Mary Parsell Birth: ABT 1642 at: Jamaica, Queens, Long Island, New York Marriage: 9 Mar 1664 at: Flushing, Queens, Long Island, New York Death: at: , , New Jersey Father: Nicholas Parsell Mother: Mrs. Sarah Parsell Spouses: Children: Sarah Thorne William Thorne John Thorne Joseph Thorne Elizabeth Thorne Hannah Thorne Mary Thorne John Thorne is the 7th Great Grandfather of Mae Jean Burnham on my Woolsey Line; ^{[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7][8] [9] [10][11] [12] [13][14]} John Thorne and Nicholas Pearsall were among the inhabitants of Flushing who were offered the status of freement of Connecticut " if they would have it" May 13, 1664. This was at the time that the English government was preparing to absorb the colony of New Netherlands, of which Long Island was a part. Connecticut was, of course, an English Colony, while Long Island was part of the Dutch New Netherlands. On Aug. 12, 1667 Nicholas Pearsall, Joseph Thorne, John Thorne of Flushing presented themselves to the Governor and gave their names "to be ready to serve His Majesty under his honorable command on all occasions". The island of Long Island, however, did not become English at that time. John Thorne died in 1709. His will, dated July 23, 1709, was probated the same year. He left his estate to his wife and children, restricting his wife's share should she remarry, and naming his son William as sole executor. He was married to Mary Pearsall (daughter of Nicholas Pearsall and Mary Van Damn) on 9 May 1664 in Flushing, Long Island, NY. Mary Pearsall was born about 1643 in Massachusetts. She died in New York. She was buried in New York. Note difference in spelling of her surname & her parents. No error they frequently slightly switched spelling of names. John Thorne and Mary Pearsall had the following children: +29 i. John Thorne. +30 ii. Joseph Thorne. +31 iii. Mary Thorne. +32 iv. Elizabeth Thorne. +33 v. Hannah Thorne. +34 vi. Sarah Thorne. +35 vii. William Thorne. http://thorn.pair.com/williamthorne1/d46.htm#P46 John Thorne & Mary Pearsall John Thorne was born about 1643 in Lynn, Essex, MA. He died after 23 Jul 1709 in Whitestone Point, Flushing, Long Island, NY. He was buried in Flushing, Long Island, NY. He resided in Flushing, Long Island, NY. JOHN THORNE:There is clear evidence that John Thorne & wife officially joined the Religious Society of Friends, but they are likely to have lived much of their life attending meeting & generally living the life of an ordinary Quaker, as many of their neighbors & children were Friends. His will was dated July 23 1709. His older brother William moved from Long Island. & John became the head of the Thorne Family on L.I. Birth date of about 1640 means not later than. ========================= John Thorne and Nicholas Pearsall were among the inhabitants of Flushing who were offered the status of freement of Connecticut " if they would have it" May 13, 1664. This was at the time that the English government was preparing to absorb the colony of New Netherlands, of which Long Island was a part. Connecticut was, of course, an English Colony, while Long Island was part of the Dutch New Netherlands. On Aug. 12, 1667 Nicholas Pearsall, Joseph Thorne, John Thorne of Flushing presented themselves to the Governor and gave their names "to be ready to serve His Majesty under his honorable command on all occasions". The island of Long Island, however, did not become English at that time. John Thorne died in 1709. His will, dated July 23, 1709, was probated the same year. He left his estate to his wife and children, restricting his wife's share should she remarry, and naming his son William as sole executor. He was married to Mary Pearsall (daughter of Nicholas Pearsall and Mary Van Damn) on 9 May 1664 in Flushing, Long Island, NY. Mary Pearsall was born about 1643 in Massachusetts. She died in New York. She was buried in New York. Note difference in spelling of her surname & her parents. No error they frequently slightly switched spelling of names. John Thorne and Mary Pearsall had the following children: +29 i. John Thorne. +30 ii. Joseph Thorne. +31 iii. Mary Thorne. +32 iv. Elizabeth Thorne. +33 v. Hannah Thorne. +34 vi. Sarah Thorne. +35 vii. William Thorne.. http://thorn.pair.com/williamthorne1/d46.htm#P46. John Thorne is the son of William Thorne and Susanna Booth. He married 9 May 1664 Mary Persall/Persell daughter of Nicholas Persall and Mary Van Damn. Children are John, Joseph, Mary, Elizabeth, Hannah, Sarah, William. On May 12, 1664 the principal English residents among the Dutch on LI were offered citizenship by the CT Assembly, a change of allegiance which never took place. The only Thorne on the Assembly's list is John Thorne of Flushing, along with Nicholas Persell, his father in law leaving us Generation 1 (con't) Generation 1 (con't) Assembly's list is John Thorne of Flushing, along with Nicholas Persell, his father in law leaving us to believe that William was deceased prior, William Jr is shown to have been in NY City in 1663, leaving John the 2nd son seeming to have been considered the head of the Long Island Family. On August 12, 1667, following serious disorders in Flushing, John Thorne and Joseph Thorne, (his brother no doubt), in company with" Nicholas parcell" and eleven others from Flushing, "presented themselves to the Governor, gave in their names to be ready to serve his Maty under his honors Command upon all occasions" (CDNY:14:598). The "Valuation of Estates at Flushing 1675" shows John Thorn with: 00negeres, 06 Landes, 10 madoes, 01 horses mares, 02 oxen and boles, 08 Cowes, 02 to yere oldes, 02 yerlinges, 03 swine, 06 shepe" (DHNY:2:459). The Flushing Estimations, 29th, Septr. 1683" shows John Thorne with 50 Upland acres, 10 Meadow acres, 20 Oxen, 7 Cowes, 2 2 yere olds, 2 1 yere olds 10 sheep 00-09-10 pounds (Ibid:516). The confirmation of the original Dutch patent to Flushing by Gov. Dongan on March 24, 1685, names "the present freeholders and Inhabitants of the Towne of Flushing" including JOseph Thorne, John Thorne and Samuel thorne. The Flushing Census of 1698 also includes the three brothers, William Thorne being recorded at Hempstead, as previously noted, and for John Thorne shows: John Thorne Senr & 5 Mary his wife Hannah & Sarah Wm Negros Alex wo: 3 (DNHY:1:662) The "5" on the left indicates the number of persons in the family, and the "3" in the last line the number of slaves. On June 22, 1670, "John Thorne of Flushing" conveyed "unto Anthony Field of ye aforesaid place....Fifty acers more or less situated by Mattagarison bay within ye bounds of Flush aforesaid...it being fifty acre lott yt was granted to Wm Benfield....and bounded upon ye west by land of John Lawrence, easterly with the bay & fronting southerly to ye highway & running in lenth northerly near to ye meadows of ye aforsd Jon Thorne" (Queens Co. deeds:A.85) On March 19, 1684, John Thorne also conveyed to Anthony Field "all ye mead lyne to ye Southward of A Certaine tree markt upon ye south side AF and on ye north side JT," apparently the land between Thorne's meadows and Field's previous purchase (Ibid.) Both deeds bear John Thorne's signature, but his wife's name is missing. The Will of "John Thorn at Flushing", executed January 5, 1697, and proved June 21, 1709, leaves the use of all lands and goods to wife Mary during her lifetime, with the provision that if she remarries she shall have instead 100 pounds, and rememers his 7 children, one of them Joseph. Son William Thorne appointed "my hole and Sole Executor" and "my brother Joseph Thorne" and John Tullman are made trustees and overseers. (WNYHS:2:26 cf. N. Y. Co. Wills 7:416).

John Thorne and Nicholas Pearsall were among the inhabitants of Flushing who were offered the status of freement of Connecticut " if they would have it" May 13, 1664. This was at the time that the English government was preparing to absorb the colony of New Netherlands, of which Long Island was a part. Connecticut was, of course, an English Colony, while Long Island was part of the Dutch New Netherlands. On Aug. 12, 1667 Nicholas Pearsall, Joseph Thorne, John Thorne of Flushing presented themselves to the Governor and gave their names "to be ready to serve His Majesty under his honorable command on all occasions". The island of Long Island, however, did not become English at that time. John Thorne died in 1709. His will, dated July 23, 1709, was probated the same year. He left his estate to his wife and children, restricting his wife's share should she remarry, and naming his son William as sole executor.

Will Dated 5 Jan 1697 Flushing, Queens, Long Island, New York, names wife Mary to use of have all lands and tenements unless she re-marries then only 100 pounds, names sons John, Joseph, William, daughters Mary Fowler, Hannah Thorn, Sarah Thorn, Elizabeth Shuerman. William to have all houses and lands in Flushing. Mentions brother Joseph Thorne and John Tallman as overseers. Wit. Joseph Tindall, Joseph Field, John Harrison. Son William sole exe. Probate 20 June 1709. NY Wills, Vol 007, 1702-1704 ^{[15] [16]}

Name

Name: John /Thorne/^[17][18]

Records in the office of the Secretary of State at Albany, New York show that John Thorne took out a license to marry Mary “Passill,” 9 March 1664. ^[19]

Birth

Birth date: 1643 Place: Lynn, Essex, Massachusetts^[20]

Birth date: 1643 Birth place: Flushing, Queens, New York. ^[21]

Death

Death Date: 23 Jul 1709 Place: Flushing, Queens, New York^[22][23]

Marriage

Husband: John Thorne

Wife: Mary Pearsall Thorne Bean

Child: Joseph Thorne

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Child: John Thorne

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Child: Mary Ann Thorne

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Child: Joseph Thorne

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Child: Hannah Thorne

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Child: Joseph Thorne

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Child: Elizabeth Thorne

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Child: Hannah Thorne

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Child: Sarah Thorne

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Child: William Thorne

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Child: William Thorne

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Marriage:

Date: 9 May 1664

Place: Flushing, Queens, New York^[24]

Sources

1. ↑ IGI. Source
2. ↑ New England Marriages Prior to 1700 pg:738.
3. ↑ Oliver Sivlerthorns Descendants-pg:233.
4. ↑ William Thorne and Some of His Descendants-pg: 153. John Thorne was made Freeman of Connecticut 12 May, 1664; On 12 Aug 1667, he & brother Jospeh, with 12 others, gave in their names to be ready to serve His majesty under his honorable command & on all occassions.
5. ↑ Will:of John Thorne of Flushing executed 5 Janurary 1697 & 21 Jul, 1709; leaves the use of all lands and good to wife Mary during her lifetime, with the provision that if she remarries she shall have instead l100, and remembers children: William, John, Joseph, Mary, Elizabeth, Hannah, Sarah; Son William Thorne is appointed my hole and Sole Executor, and my brother Joseph Thorne and John Tullman are made trustees; On 21 Jul, 1696 John Thorne transfers land to Anthony Floyd in Flushing, Long Ilsand, New York; Our Thorne Family were Quakers; John Thorne may have died at Chesterfield, New Jersey where his son John died;
6. ↑ Genealogies of Long Island Families.
7. ↑ New York Historical & Genealogical Register Vol. 20-pg:82.
8. ↑ New York Genealogical Society MgazineArticles on William Thorne & his descendants, published October 1888 & written by Reverend Arthur Wentworth Hamilton, Eaton.
9. ↑ Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, 1940.
10. ↑ History of New Amsterdan (New York;)
11. ↑ Genealogical and Biographical Record, Vol. II, Praa-Youngs;
12. ↑ The Thorne Family of Long Island, New York:
13. ↑ Colonial Records of Connecticut: 1: 429-30: On May 12 1664, the year of the British occupation of New Amsterdam, (New York), the general Assembly of Connecticut, in a futile attempt to annex Long Island, accepted as freeman, if they accept it, ten residents of Flushing, including John Thorne & Nicholas Persell (his father-in-law), as well as a number of prominent residents of other Long Island towns; No other Thornes were named, and it may be presumed that William Thorne (father of John) had died; That Johns brother William Thorne was in New York City and that John Thorne, whose notes these are, was considered the head of the family on Long Island.
14. ↑ Colonial Records of Connecticut: 1: 429-30: On May 12 1664, the year of the British occupation of New Amsterdam, (New York), the general Assembly of Connecticut, in a futile attempt to annex Long Island, accepted as freeman, if they accept it, ten residents of Flushing, including John Thorne & Nicholas Persell (his father-in-law), as well as a number of prominent residents of other Long Island towns; No other Thornes were named, and it may be presumed that William Thorne (father of John) had died; That Johns brother William Thorne was in New York City and that John Thorne, whose notes these are, was considered the head of the family on Long Island.
15. ↑ https://ia902704.us.archive.org/24/items/abstractswillso07kellgoog/abstractswillso07kellgoog.pdf
16. ↑ https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/8800/005518046_00324?pid=778581
17. ↑ Source: #S-2127642161 Note: Ancestry Record millind #10532877 Note: Data: Text: Birth date: 1643Birth place: Flushing, Queens, New York, Death date: 1709Death place: APID: 1,7249::10532877
18. ↑ Source: #S-2127643531 Page: Birth year: 1643; Birth city: Flushing. Note: Ancestry Record genepool #4567133 Note: Data: Text: Birth date: 1643Birth place: Flushing, Queens Co. Death date: Death place: Queens, Co, NY Marriage date: 9 March 1664Marriage place: Flushing, Queens, CO APID: 1,4725::4567133
19. ↑ http://longislandgenealogy.com/NYSMarrLic/NYmarlicense.htm
20. ↑ Source: #S-2127642161
21. ↑ Source: #S-2127643531 Page: Birth year: 1643; Birth city: Flushing; Birth state: CO. Note: Ancestry Record genepool #4567133 Note: Data: Text: Birth date: 1643 Birth place: Flushing, Queens, Co., Death date: Death place: Queens, Co, NY Marriage date: 9 March 1664 Marriage place: Flushing, Queens, Co. APID: 1,4725::4567133
22. ↑ Source: #S-2127642161 Note: Ancestry Record millind #10532877 Note: Data: Text: Birth date: 1643 Birth place: Flushing, Queens, New York, Death date: 1709Death place: APID: 1,7249::10532877
23. ↑ Source: #S-2127643531 Page: Birth year: 1643; Birth city: Flushing Queens Co. Note: Ancestry Record genepool #4567133 Note: Data: Text: Birth date: 1643 Birth place: Flushing, Queens, Co Death date: Death place: Queens, Co, NY Marriage date: 9 March 1664 Marriage place: Flushing, Queens, Co. APID: 1,4725::4567133
24. ↑ Source: #S-2127643531 Page: Birth year: 1643; Birth city: Flushing. Note: Ancestry Record genepool #4567133 Note: Data: Text: Birth date: 1643Birth place: Flushing, Queens, Co., Death date: Death place: Queens, Co, NY Marriage date: 9 March 1664 Marriage place: Flushing, Queens, CO APID: 1,4725::4567133

• Source: S-2127642161 Title: Millennium File Author: Heritage Consulting Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2003.Original data - Heritage Consulting. The Millennium File. Salt Lake City, UT, USA: Heritage Consulting. Original data: Heritage Consulting. The Millennium File. Salt Lake City, UT, USA: Note: APID: 1,7249::0

• Source: S-2127643531 Title: Family Data Collection - Individual Records Author: Edmund West, comp. Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000. Note: APID: 1,4725::0

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