Recent research into the Wyckoff family name, including Pieter Claessen Wyckoff, has called into question some of the historical sources used to identify the origins of this family and its surname. Please read and consider all sources carefully. See posts and see G2G and G2G discussion, What is the origin of the surname Wyckoff and who were Pieter Claesen Wyckoff's parents? Dec 8, 2014. See for all previous and many disproven info Freespace page Wyckoff Family. The commonly accepted claim that Pieter's father was Claes Corneliss (van Schouwen) is disproven and the connection has been removed from this profile.
For the most recent and scholarly research available on the origins of Pieter Claeszen [Wyckoff], please see M. William Wyckoff, PhD, What’s in Name? History and Meaning of Wyckoff, (Rochester, NY; 2014); iv and 58 pages with maps and illustrations; available at https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/records/item/549029-what-s-in-a-name-history-and-meaning-of-wyckoff or Amazon.com. For a book review of the same by Harry Macy, Jr. FASG, FGBS, please see The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record (146[October 2015]:312); the review concludes with the statements that “…Pieter Claeszen was a Frisian from Norden and derived his name from the Wykhof farmstead. Wyckoff descendants will want to purchase this book to better understand the evidence that this is their ancestor’s correct ancestry.”
Biography
Pieter (Claesz) Wijckhoff is Notable.
Pieter Claesen Wyckoff (ca. 1620 – June 30, 1694) was a prominent early figure in Kings County, Long Island, New York. He superintended the bowery (farm) and cattle of Peter Stuyvesant in New Amersfoort (present day Flatlands, Brooklyn). Pieter Claesen prospered there and acquired land and became a local justice of the peace, and was influential in establishing the Flatlands Dutch Reformed Church at the juncture of Flatbush Avenue and Kings Highway in Brooklyn, where he and his wife Grietje are thought to be buried. [1]
Pieter Claesen was born in the village of Norden in the Holy Roman Empire (present day East Friesland, Germany). Pieter emigrated to America in 1637, as an indentured servant to Kiliaen van Rensselaer, in Rensselaerwyck (in the vicinity of modern Albany, New York). After Claesen worked off his indenture in 1643, he labored as a tenant farmer, leasing land from the Rensselaer patroonship.[2]
He married Grietje Van Ness (c. 1625-c. 1701) around 1645. Their first two children were born in Rensselearwyck but he moved to New Amersfoort (present day Flatlands, Brooklyn). His children included:
Claes (Nicholas) Pieterse [Wyckoff] (1646-1714) m. Sara Monfoort (1656-1704)
Margrietje Pieterse [Wyckoff] (c. 1648-?) m. Matthys Brouwer
Annetje Pieterse [Wyckoff] (1650-1688) m. Roelof Martensen Schenck, Captain (1619-1704)
Mayken Pieterse [Wyckoff] (1653-1721) m. Willem Willemsen (c. 1637- c. 1722), son of Willem Gerritsen and Mary -----
Willemptje Pieterse [Wyckoff] (c. 1654- c. 1693) m. Adrian Pieterse Kenne
Cornelius Pieterse [Wyckoff] (c. 1656-1746) m. Gertje Charity Van Arsedalen
Hendrick Pieterse [Wyckoff] (c. 1658-?)
Geertje Pieterse [Wyckoff] (c. 1660-c. 1711) m. Christoffel Janse Romeyn (c. 1641- c. 1748)
Garret Pieterse [Wyckoff] (1662-1701) m. Catherine Johanna Nevius
Marten Pieterse [Wyckoff] (c. 1663- c. 1699) m. Hanna Willemse (c. 1660- c.1724), dau. of Willem Gerritsen and Mary -----
Jan Pieterse [Wyckoff] (1665- c. 1730) m. Neeltje Williamse Couwenhoven
Pieter and Grietje raised eleven children: six sons and five daughters. All of the children grew to adulthood, married and had famililes. The Wyckoffs were a very prominent family and all of their children married into families of importance in the area.
Pieter died June 30, 1694, and is buried at the Flatlands Dutch Reformed Church on Long Island, New York.
Abt 1620 est date 1 Jul 1620 Place: Norden, East Friesland, Germany or 1625 Holland [9]
Place of Birth
Grietje Cornelis Van Ness daughter of Father: Cornelis Hendrick Van Ness Emigrant of 1641 b. c 1600, d. b Nov 1684 and Mother: Maycke Hendrick Van Der Burchgraeff b. c 1605, d. b 1664 Grietje was named as their child and as the wife of Pieter Claessen of Amersfoort, in a document dated 21 March 1664 where Cornelis secured the property for the children of his first wife, Mayeke Hendricx van den Burghgraeff.[10]
Pieter Wyckoff and his father-in-law Cornelis Van Nes and his mother-in-law Mayken Hendricks van den Burchgraeff are cited in court minutes off and on from 1648-1650. Basicallly Pieter and his in-laws accused the new director of the colony of Rennselaerswyck with cheating Pieter. Evidently, even if these things are true, you may basically be sued for slander for stating this in public. The following are summarized court minutes taken from The Washington Ancestry pg 104, 188-191. Summary of Court Minutes of Rensselaerwyck : 1648-1650, Rennsselaerswyck, New York [18]
14 Sept 1648 Van Nes stated the Director was a cheat & Pieter reported that the Director was no Christian. These events occurred at a public leasing in front of Rev Domine Megapolensis & bystanders. After speaking their piece Pieter and Van Nes walked out while the meeting was in progress and other people also walked out without leasing their properties at the rate the director was proposing. [18]
16 Sept 1648 The wife of Cornelis is charged for slandering Councilor de Vos saying if he had a seat in government he would make them suffer for the insults which they had offered to him. They demand she appear before the council and acknowledge she said too much & that she is heartily sorry, and pay a fine of 6 gilders.There is no record of her ever appearing which seems to indicate that she gave no apology. [18]
8 Oct 1648: Pieter Claesz sued by Brant Aertsz van Slichtenhorst, the Honorable Director of the Colony of Rensselaerswyck. Defaulted. fined. [18]
22 Oct 1648 Pieter Claesz cited by Hans Vos to fulfil his contract of service. Summoned. [18]
22 Oct 1648 Pieter Claesz claims unjust treatment by the Director. [18]
22 Oct 1648 Pieter Claesz charged by the Director with the same offense as his father-in-law Cornelis Hendriecksz who called the Director a cheat. [18]
26 Nov 1648 Cornelis is charged with "out of spite threshed out a quantity of oat straw, which is in winter best fodder, and thrown the straw on the manure pile." Demands Cornelis pay a fine of 25 guilders and make good the loss of straw. Cornelis had refused do do this on Nov 18th so on Nov 19th the Director attached the person of Van Nes and all his property, forbidding him to leave the colony: that he should vacate the house and barn next New Year & shortly render to the director a specified account of everything, including the trade, for each year separately. [18]
17 Dec 1648 Cornelis repeats his charges against the director.17 Dec 1648 Pieter & Cornelis regret using vehement language against the Honorable Director. [18]
21 Jan 1649 Van Nes: Judgement of florins 150 with interest, also florins 36:15, 2 skins with costs, Judgement on account of the oat straw-with cost-to give security for both. Sentence on account of slander by the wife of Van Nes. Pieter offers himself to be imprisoned as surety for his father-in-law, to satisfy all judgements in actions which the Honorable Director may bring against Van Ness, in toto. [18]
28 Jan 1649 The 235 guilders due Pieter from Jan Derricksz attached by the Director as security for the delivery by Pieter of the patroon's horse and the house in as good condition as he received them. [18]
29 Apr 1649 Living with his father-in-law: both summoned & their property attached & ordered to be watched over by Hans Vos to supervise over their property until they shall have rendered their accounts and performed their duties, all on payment of the proper wages to Han Vos. [18]
6 May 1649 Pieter promises to deliver up the house, barn and hay barracks used by him. [18]
17 May 1649 Pieter is assigned by the Director to pay Jan van Bremen florins 266:3 11. [18]
22 May 1649 Pieter is ordered to let Jan van Bremen have two of the strongest horses. [18]
22 May 1649 Pieter is released from bail bond executed for his father-in-law. [18]
5 June 1649 Pieter and his family left the colony of Rensselaerswyck. [18]
13 Jan 1650 Cornelis is summoned to appear on the 29th and is forbidden to tap. (Dispose of the beer he has brewed.) [18]
17 Feb 1650 Hans Vos is granted by the court 100 guilders for his supervision during the past year at the house of Cornelis and Pieter. [18]
30 Jun 1694 Brooklyn, Kings, New York or Amersfoort, Long Island, New York
Burial
May be buried under the Flatlands Dutch Reformed Church at the juncture of Flatbush Avenue and Kings Highway in Brooklyn. [32]
July 1694 Brooklyn, Kings, New York, USA [7][33] "Dutch Reformed Church (Looks like a picture of an old TV set) Flatbush Avenue and Kings Highway, Flatlands, Brooklyn - Midnight 24 Dec 1960. Pieter Claesen (the first Wyckoff) was a founder in 1663 and is buried there. See info at this web site nycago.org Flatbush
30 Jun 1694 Flatlands, Long Island, New York
Sources
↑ Wikipedia contributors, Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia, "Pieter Claesen Wyckoff"(accessed November 6, 2016).
↑ The Wyckoff Association in America, editor. The Wyckoff Family In America, A Genealogy. Rutland, Vermont: The Tuttle Publishing Company, Inc., 1950. Page 4.
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↑ 9.09.1 New Jersey EASy - Indexing Project (batch) B07194-1; source file 584573; Ref v X p 392 Data: Date of Import: 5 Mar 2010, Source: S001744 Date of Import: 19 Mar 2010, Source: S011686, Date of Import: 5 Mar 2010, Source: S011680 HERBERT(4).FTW , Source: S011686 HERBERT2.FTW , Source: S001744 Date of Import: 19 Mar 2010 Birth place is an approximation based on the origin of the last name. No resources are available.
↑ Geertje Van Ness was born before 1630 and died before 1703. (I have not researched this from primary sources. Reference: database of Chris Baker.)
↑ Source: S-2103111469 Title: Family Data Collection - Individual Records Author: Edmund West, comp. Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000. Note: APID: 1,4725::0 Page: Birth year: 1624; Birth city: Flatbush; Birth state: NY. Note: [ Ancestry Record genepool #4521752 ancestry genepool] Data: Birth date: 1624 Birth place: Flatbush, Brooklyn Kings, NY Death date: 1699 Death place: Flatlands, Amersfoort Long Island, NY Marriage date: 1646 Marriage place: Flatlands, Kings Co, NY APID: 1,4725::4521752. Page: Birth year: 1624; Birth city: Flatbush; Birth state: NY. Note: Ancestry Record genepool #4869877 Note: Data: Birth date: 1624 Birth place: Flatbush, Brooklyn Kings, NY Death date: 11 September 1689 Death place: Flatlands, Aermsfoot Long Island, NY Marriage date: 1643 Marriage place: APID: 1,4725::4869877 Could not parse date out of Mar 1645/1649.
↑ Source: S-1767020224 Family Data Collection-Individual Records Author: Edmund West, comp. Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000. Birth year: 1624; Birth city: Flatbush; Birth state: NY. Note: Ancestry Record genepool #4521752 Note: Data: Birth date: 1624 Birth place: Flatbush, Brooklyn Kings, NY Death date: 1699 Death place: Flatlands, Amersfoort Long Island, NY Marriage date: 1646 Marriage place: Flatlands, Kings Co, NY
↑ Source: S-1766655151 Title: U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Author: Yates Publishing Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Note: APID: 1,7836::0 Page: Source number: ; Source type: ; Number of Pages: ; Submitter Code: . Note: Ancestry Record worldmarr_ga #1254304. Data: Birth date: 1625 Birth place: Marriage date: 1646
↑ Source: S-1761910858 Title: New York City, Marriages, 1600s-1800s Author: Genealogical Research Library, comp. Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2005. Ancestry.com Note: Ancestry Record nycmarriages_ga #50787. Data: Marriage date: 1638 Marriage place: New York, New York
↑ Note: Records of the marriage of Pieter & Grietje as well as births of first two children destroyed by fire when the church at Beverwyck burned.
↑ Note: Hendrick was married twice, to a Geertje and a Helena. Records show that three shrouds for children were purchased from the Flatlands Dutch Church between 1686 & 1712. No surviving children.
↑ Source: S-2069760273 Repository: R-2142803482 Title: The Story of New Jersey Author: Ancestry.com Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005.Original data - The Story of New Jersey. New York: Lewis Publishing Co., c1945. Note: Includes index. Note: Ancestry.com Note: Data: Text: Residence date: 1524-1945 Residence place: New Jersey, USA
↑ Source: S-2069766307 Pre-Revolutionary Dutch houses and families in northern New Jersey and southern New York Author: Ancestry.com Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005. Original data - Bailey, Rosalie Fellows,. Pre-Revolutionary Dutch houses and families in northern New Jersey and southern New York. New York: W. Morrow & Co., 1936. Includes bibliographical references (p. 583-584) and index. APID: 1,27177::0 Note: Ancestry.com Note: Data: Text: Residence date: Residence place: New Jersey; New York, USA
↑ Source: S-2069769626 Repository: R-2142803482 Title: The civil, political, professional and ecclesiastical history and commercial and industrial record of the county of Kings and t Author: Ancestry.com Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005.Original data - Stiles, Henry Reed,. The civil, political, professional and ecclesiastical history and commercial and industrial record of the county of Kings and the city of Brooklyn, N.Y Note: "With portraits, biographies and illustrations,"Includes bibliographical references and index. Note: Ancestry.com. Data: Residence date: 1600-1884 Residence place:Kings, New York,USA APID: 1,20730::79, Note: Ancestry.com. Data: Residence date: 1600-1884 Residence place: Kings, New York,
↑ Source: S-2069769630 Long Island : its early days and development Author: Ancestry.com Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005.Original data - Armbruster, Eugene L.,. Long Island : its early days and development. Brooklyn, N.Y.: Brooklyn Daily Eagle, c 1914. Note: Title on cover: History of Long Is "With illustrations and maps Contains advertising matter.Biographical sketches: p. 49-68. Note: Ancestry.com. Data: Residence date: 1640-1914 Residence place: New York, USA
↑ Source: S-2069769612 The Washington ancestry : and records of the McClain, Johnson, and forty other colonial American families Author: Ancestry.com Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005. Includes bibliographical references and indexes. Note: Ancestry.com Note: Data: Text: Residence date: 1650-1932 Residence place: USA APID: 1,26285::1293
↑ Source: S-2069766223 Repository: R-2142803482 Title: The Wyckoff family in America : a genealogy. Author: Ancestry.com Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005.Original data - Wyckoff, William Forman,. The Wyckoff family in America : a genealogy in 1934 under the direction of Milford B. Streeter which were based on data collected by Willaim Forman Wyckoff New material was compiled by Harriet E. Wyckoff Summit, N.J.: Wyckoff Association in America, 1950.Includes indexes. APID: 1,27302::0 Note: Ancestry.com Note: Data: Text: Residence date: Residence place: USA APID: 1,27302::11
↑ Source: S-2069769592 Repository: R-2142803482 Title: The ancestors and descendants of Rulef Schenck : a genealogy of the Onondaga County, New York, branch of the Schenck family Author: Ancestry.com Publication: Online publication - Includes index. APID: 1,12609::0 Note: Ancestry.com Note: Data: Text: Residence date: Residence place: USA APID: 1,12609::26
↑ Source: S-2069769586 Repository: R-2142803482 Title: The Rev. William Schenck, his ancestry and his descendants Author: Ancestry.com Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005.Rufus H. Darby, 1883 . Original data: Schenck, Alexander DuBois,. The Rev. Note: Includes index. APID: 1,15321::0 Note: Ancestry.com. Data: Residence date: Residence place: USA APID: 1,15321::22
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"The Rise of Peter Claessen Wyckoff: Social Mobility on the Colonial Frontier," New York History 53.1 (January 1972): 4‐24, by Morton Wagmann serves as a brief biography of our immigrant ancestor after his arrival in America.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Ancestral File (Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998). Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA. Ancestral File Number: XKRM-FC
Vanarsdale.FTW, Date of Import: Aug 7, 2004.
Wyckoff, William Forman. The Wyckoff family in America: A Genealogy (Summit, N.J.: Wyckoff Association in America, 1950, 656 pgs). Additional authors: Milford B Streeter; Harriet E Wyckoff. http://www.heritagequestonline.com/hqoweb/library/do/index
Author(s) Unidentified, Van Schouwen / Wyckoff Gedcom (Published on-line by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints;)
Sources: FamilySearch / Elmer Leonard Hauser Genealogy / William Howard Hauser Genealogy / Descendants of Wolphert Gerretse Van Kouwenhoven / Ancestry.com RootsWeb's WorldConnect William Hauser
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U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Author: Yates Publishing Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004.
Historic American Buildings Survey, Creator, and Peter Wyckoff. Peter Wyckoff House,Canarsie Lane, Brooklyn, Kings County, NY. Brooklyn New York Kings County, 1933. Documentation Compiled After. Photograph. https://www.loc.gov/item/ny0257/.
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Then the New York State Library has provided a photograph of the original list of these passengers online, which is pretty exciting, see https://www.nysl.nysed.gov/mssc/vrm/passenger_list.htm. I have been going back and forth from one list to the other and do not see where Pieter appears in the photograph of the log. The only Pieter I find is Pieter Cornelisz van Munnickendam who had been hired to erect a sawmill. It would be interesting to know if someone has looked at this photo and can identify where Pieter Claesz appears.
Can anyone provide a reference as to when Pieter Claesz (Classen, etc) becomes Pieter Wyckoff? Is this formally recorded somewhere when the English take control?
There was something added to the profile of his wife that perhaps can lead us to his parents ? It says she was married to Pieter Claesz from Amersfoort ..so not sure, but it's worth investigating of course ;)
Greets,
Bea
on the other hand...bummers..that probably would be New Amersfoort eeh
Changed it to 1 July 1620, the other date mentioned in the Bio and marked it as uncertain now.
Indeed no source, so looking at the date of immigration prob. 1637, and the fact he was an indentured servant, the 1620 year of Birth probably is more correct.
Yes I know, Boda is the place, it was said he was born from the disproven Ancestry. See also the profile of Claes Cornelis (van Schouwen) , he was born abt 1607 in Brouwershaven (at the former Island Schouwen, now Schouwen Duiveland), we found his marriage (1632) and the baptism of two of their children Trijntje (bapt. 1633) and Herpert (bapt. 1635) in Amsterdam, since they married in 1632 and because there were no baptisms of or a son named Pieter mentioned that was born before the marriage, it seems very unlikely Pieter Claesz born in 1625 was their son.
Claes Cornelis (van Schouwen) according the marriage record (we added it) was from Brouwershaven and born abt 1607. The supposed 'Boda' (van Goes and Petersson) parents passed away in 1596 (mother) and 1599 (father) so it's impossible these were his parents, also at his marriage it isn't mentioned Claes was married earlier to a wife named Margaret or Grietje van Goes, it was pretty common in Amsterdam that it was mentioned when someone was a widow or married before.
Anyway, we corrected things now, because the most important previous 'facts' were disproven...we added the records and everything we could find, see Claes Cornelis's profile or the Wyckoff free space page...
Hope it explains it a bit more and thanks for the help and interest of course , if you have or can find some evidence that proves otherwise it would be great :)
Hi Bea- do you know if and to what extent records (to the extent any exist) from in and around Norden have been scrutinized for someone matching his name and dates?
I have him born at Boda, Island of Oland,Sweden and
Brother
of Tryntje Claessen, Herpert Van Schouwen, Greetje Claessen Van Schouwen, Pieterje Claessen (Van Schouw) van Schouw, Cornelis Claesen Van Schouwen, Floris Claesen Van Schouwen, Gerbrant Claesen andAriaen Claesen Van Schouwen
Sorry no sources
I created a free space page and added all info from the scrollbox there now, maybe someone is interested or has some time to create a nice short Bio for our Pieter Claesz ?
And maybe someone is interested in making a nice free space page for the Wyckoffs ?
If so just let me know and I can add you to the trusted list or as manager of the page :)
You're welcome and ..found and added the marriage record for Claes Cornelis born Brouwershaven (Schouwen, Zeeland, Netherlands) , and Metje Herperts baptism record and her parents .
Looks like now he needs a disputed parents template as well ...
Then the New York State Library has provided a photograph of the original list of these passengers online, which is pretty exciting, see https://www.nysl.nysed.gov/mssc/vrm/passenger_list.htm. I have been going back and forth from one list to the other and do not see where Pieter appears in the photograph of the log. The only Pieter I find is Pieter Cornelisz van Munnickendam who had been hired to erect a sawmill. It would be interesting to know if someone has looked at this photo and can identify where Pieter Claesz appears.
edited by Michael Stills
There was something added to the profile of his wife that perhaps can lead us to his parents ? It says she was married to Pieter Claesz from Amersfoort ..so not sure, but it's worth investigating of course ;)
Greets,
Bea
on the other hand...bummers..that probably would be New Amersfoort eeh
Changed it to 1 July 1620, the other date mentioned in the Bio and marked it as uncertain now.
Indeed no source, so looking at the date of immigration prob. 1637, and the fact he was an indentured servant, the 1620 year of Birth probably is more correct.
Thanks for noticing this ;)
Bea
Yes I know, Boda is the place, it was said he was born from the disproven Ancestry. See also the profile of Claes Cornelis (van Schouwen) , he was born abt 1607 in Brouwershaven (at the former Island Schouwen, now Schouwen Duiveland), we found his marriage (1632) and the baptism of two of their children Trijntje (bapt. 1633) and Herpert (bapt. 1635) in Amsterdam, since they married in 1632 and because there were no baptisms of or a son named Pieter mentioned that was born before the marriage, it seems very unlikely Pieter Claesz born in 1625 was their son.
Claes Cornelis (van Schouwen) according the marriage record (we added it) was from Brouwershaven and born abt 1607. The supposed 'Boda' (van Goes and Petersson) parents passed away in 1596 (mother) and 1599 (father) so it's impossible these were his parents, also at his marriage it isn't mentioned Claes was married earlier to a wife named Margaret or Grietje van Goes, it was pretty common in Amsterdam that it was mentioned when someone was a widow or married before.
Anyway, we corrected things now, because the most important previous 'facts' were disproven...we added the records and everything we could find, see Claes Cornelis's profile or the Wyckoff free space page...
Hope it explains it a bit more and thanks for the help and interest of course , if you have or can find some evidence that proves otherwise it would be great :)
Brother of Tryntje Claessen, Herpert Van Schouwen, Greetje Claessen Van Schouwen, Pieterje Claessen (Van Schouw) van Schouw, Cornelis Claesen Van Schouwen, Floris Claesen Van Schouwen, Gerbrant Claesen andAriaen Claesen Van Schouwen Sorry no sources
I created a free space page and added all info from the scrollbox there now, maybe someone is interested or has some time to create a nice short Bio for our Pieter Claesz ?
And maybe someone is interested in making a nice free space page for the Wyckoffs ?
If so just let me know and I can add you to the trusted list or as manager of the page :)
Greets from the Netherlands, Bea
Looks like now he needs a disputed parents template as well ...