Should I use the Frenchj name for this area where my ancestors were born

Question

Now, my great grandmother always told the family she came from Granville, Quebec.  I notice that a lot of the Albright children are shown as dying before 1867 in what became the French name for the area.  Should I use this or the name it was called back then?k  Need a bit of clarification on this.

Answer 1

I would think the name as it was at the time, you can always note the modern naming in the bio.

Comments

Okay, not sure if their birth certificates aren’t inFrench, but know the area was called Granville (Grenville) Quebec at that time.  They probably spoke English and had a Protestant church.  However, should they be listed in the French name or by the English name.  Realize they didn’t change the names until 1867, but as it’s a French Province, am still not sure if I shouldn’t put it in French.    Believe the Government or church had all BMD’s listed in French when it was part of Lower Canada whether French or English people.

Answer 2

Location Field Style Guide

Our guiding principle is the same as the one for Name Fields: "use their conventions instead of ours."

Applied to locations, this means using place names in native languages and using the names that people at the time used, even if they now no longer exist.

Comments

Thank you.  That makes sense to me.  As my Great grandmother (told to my Aunt) used Granville, Quebec will use that but know the people who died there later on will use the French name as its used today.

THANK YOU.

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According to The Anglican Parish of St Andrew Christ Church, St Andrew's East:

Christ Church was founded in 1819, and constructed on a site donated by Sir John Johnson, Seigneur of St Andrew's. A brick building, it initially contained 34 pews, including a Seigneurial pew. A sanctuary was added in 1826, a bequest of Lt. Col. George Taylor, whose body was entombed beneath the altar. (The chancel was subsequently extended, so the vault containing the body must now lie beneath the entrance to the Chancel.)

The parish of St Andrew was actually erected in 1822 by Letters Patent issued under the authority of King George IV.

The first rector, Joseph Abbott, was the father of Sir John Abbott, first Canadian-born Prime Minister, who was baptized in Christ Church.

The third rector, Richard Lonsdell, was the first Archdeacon of St Andrew's, a title which continues today in the Archdeaconry of St Andrew's.

Christ Church is the oldest Anglican church in the Laurentians, and the mother church of Holy Trinity, Lakefield, St Matthew's, Grenville, St Simeon's, Lachute, Holy Trinity, Hawkesbury, and St James', Hudson.

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According to the Wikipedia article Saint-André-d'Argenteuil: "In 1819, the post office with the English name of St. Andrews East (Frenchified to Saint-André-Est in 1978) was established here, having adopted the name of the patron saint of the Scottish settlers." 

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Thank you for all your comments.  Added most of them to Valentine Albright's profile.

Answer 3

Have corrected place name on his profile to align with the fact that he's born in either one or the other place, St-André-d'Argenteuil and St-André-Est got merged together in 1999, prior to that separate.

Now there is a question in my mind as to the correct location for him.  Your source gives St-André... as location, but you are saying he was from Granville, Québec.  Did she mean Grenville township?  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenville,_Quebec or its neighbours?

Comments

Now I don't know as most of them had reams of info but now not sure just where it is.  However, my G Grandmother said she was born i Granville, Quubec.  It was definitely the town of Granville but not all the people in this family were born there..  Thank you for clearing up the dates and will put that down on my own profile to keep track of it.

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I think she may have gotten the spelling wrong, Grenville and Granville sound alike, but there is no Granville in this province that I can find.

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Yes, I had the spelling wrong.  It is Grenville!  So sorry about that as was not really sure when I wrote it.  Didn't take time to check out my G.Grandmother's site to make sure.

Sorry - sorry

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no problem, it would be Grenville township in the era for this man then.  Don't know more, you need to find baptism, FaG doesn't really have all the data needed to determine correct answers.

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This is what I have shown fore "Lizzie" Smith (nee Albright):

"Elizabeth "Lizzie"  Albright was born 29 March, 1853 to  George Nelson Albright and Annie Jeffries in Grenville, Quebec ".  Now have never visited this place so no idea if a town ever existed there or not??  This is actually "where" she said she came from according to Aunt Hattie and believe she stated that in the write up she did for the "Trails of the Pioneers" in her own words.  Must do a bit more research to see if a town every existed there.

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the wikipedia link I gave above gives you a brief history of Grenville.  Including date of incorporation as township (1808) and village municipality (1876)

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Yes, I put a link to it under Valentine Albright who was my 3x G Grandfather but perhaps I will also add  it on to my G.Grandmother's site.  Valentine died rather young and his wife remarried and went to the US after having 3 sons in Canada with her new husband.

Thank you again as I do appreciate your efforts.