Help connect unconnected Dutch notables - DONE!!

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We discussed this on a different thread - I am making a new one to try to track this better. I am listing people below, but perhaps a separate answer for each person would make more sense?

There are currently (14 Feb 2021) 16 unconnected notables born in the Netherlands. 4 are 16th century or earlier, 5 are 17th century, 1 is 18th century. The others are listed below.

Name # parents # grand parents # great grand parents connected

Johannes Andries van Zutphen (1863 - 1958)

2 4 8 yes!

Herman Jan van Aalderen (1886 - 1945)

2 4 8 yes!

Johannes Post (1906 - 1944)

2 4 8 yes!

Charles Henri Joseph Boost (1907 - 1990)

2 4 8 yes!

Jan (Hendrick) de Hartog (1914 - 2002)

2 4 8 yes!

Klaas Bruinsma (1931 - 2018)

2 4 8 yes!

Updated numbers later on 14 Feb 2021

Updated chart 15 Feb 2021, 16 Feb 2021, 17 Feb 2021, 18 Feb 2021

Connections completed 18 Feb 2021 ; All 8 G Grandparents added for all on 19 Feb 2021

in Genealogy Help by W Robertson G2G6 Pilot (122k points)
edited by W Robertson
maybe add the connectors tag?

And the notables and unconnected tags.

I've added this challenge to the table on the "Places to find unconnected profiles" page.

Thanks Eef and Greg for the tag suggestions. I have added them.

I have also updated the numbers based in the chart. De Hartog now has all 8 great grandparents (but no siblings/aunts/uncles and not connected.)
dutch_roots_challenges?

Currently, this challenge is tied for 12th place in terms of percent complete, at 33.3%. In terms of people still to connect, it's in a four-way tie for fourth place, at four. (You can't plan something like that.)

Jan de Hartog connected! 

Terrific! Thanks, D

This challenge is now in sixth place in terms of percent complete, at 66.7%. In terms of people still to connect, it's in second place, at two.

It helps that I intentionally selected profiles that ought to be easier - solidly in the era of a lot of good records so easier to go backwards and sideways. For the Netherlands, post 1811 and pre-100 or so years ago are generally easier to source (especially for someone like me). Except for births in Amsterdam. They can still be challenging. Except for Jan (and probably others in the project who can find those records). My assumption is that if they are easy enough for me to try, there is a good chance the group can find a connection.

W. Amsterdam is not so hard. Try to search HERE at the indexen. The stadsarchief (city archive of Amsterdam) works just the same as many other search engines.

YOU CAN DO IT!  heart

I am sorry I just do not have time enough. Answering WT mail and help requests. Working next three days...........Will be back as soon as I can.

I really should try again. I had difficulties when I first tried a few years ago, but my skills have probably improved since then.

@W

Finding Amsterdam births 1811-1902 is probably easiest by searching FamilySearch. It looks like all their films for that timeframe were indexed, as you can see by the presence of a looking glass, like here. Exceptions seem to be films where both a 1-year table and births in that year are recorded. So directly searching names will most likely be the most efficient way to research, like this. But please note that the FS indexing incorrectly uppercased the prepositions ("Van Der" is incorrect, should be "van der").

For the 1903-1920 timeframe the Amsterdam Archive records called "archiefkaart" are the way to go. Actually for all purposes, as they provide a wealth of other data like names of spouses, parents, children, places, and BMD dates. Go to the Indexen page and type a name (wildcards allowed, I believe much like at Openarch) in the "Zoek in alle velden" box. You can filter on sourcetype (Bron) "Archiefkaarten", like here.

Thanks! I rarely search in the 20th century, but will definitely keep that in mind. I do a lot with family search. I make very heavy use of openarch (yes, I know, going to the actual collections would be better, but the searching allows some fuzziness and combining of data elements which I find very helpful, and make finding records an enjoyable puzzle for me and not annoying or a struggle so I am sticking with it).
Post has all its GGparents
Boost too
Thanks for letting me know, Eef. I have updated the chart.
Klaas Bruinsma has all 8 GGparents as well.
Thanks for letting me know, Jan!  Maybe after this we should have focused attention on those new location suggestions....

@W re: location suggestions

Yes, lots of them.

Fortunately Koen is making tremendous progress fixing them!

Unfortunately Aleš said he can't EditBot locations. Nonambiguous locations ending province name would be easy to fix, like "Noord-Holland" ==> "Noord-Holland, Nederland"

I did a small number of US/Netherlands people on the first day and even then Koen got to one before me!  That is very impressive progress.
van aalderen has 8 GGparents too.
Terrific! I updated the chart -- they all have all 8 great grand parents now

Eef (and others) - should we do something similar next month? If yes, there are more unconnected notables born in the Netherlands (6 from the 17th and 18th century, and 4 from earlier)  OR some of the more recent (at least post 1500...)  unconnected 4 star profiles OR something else?

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I'm sprucing up the profile of Jan van Zutphen at the moment. A real life story, more sources etc. He founded the "Diamantslijpersbond" in Amsterdam. The first big trade union of its kind. Later in life he was very active in TBC care fonding .
by Eef van Hout G2G6 Pilot (189k points)
Thanks! That one was sadly deficient (not that any of them were/are adequate). I thought he was a trade unionist but wasn't sure from the bio. I am looking forward to reading what you add.
I added the rest of the grandparents and 4 of the 8 ggrandparents
Thanks!
his last 4 GGparents are done.
+8 votes

I will have a go at Klaas Bruinsma. Father was deported in WW II for not betraying his oldest son who was a resistance fighter. Father died on board of the Cap Arcona (ship loaded with concentration camp prisoners).

by Living Terink G2G6 Pilot (299k points)

Parents and paternal grandparents added. To be continued tomorrow

Wonderful!
+6 votes

Never heard of the ones that are left. sadlaugh

But the grandmother of my hub was a de Hartog or was it a de Hertog?? What ever........  I will go to Haarlem to meet Jan de Hartog. I will not have much time tomorrow, work and a meeting tomorrow night - peer consultation - I need to lead,  so if anyone likes to make a start it is verrrrrrrry okay with me. 

Calling it a night now.

@W. I hope you re save and warm over there! heart Cold here too but not so cold as at yours. And tomorrow the thaw sets in here, with a lot of problems for traffic.... hoping it will be the start of spring.

Sigh........ Corona, corona, corona............

by Astrid Spaargaren G2G6 Pilot (285k points)
+6 votes
Two of these six notables are now connected! Thanks everyone.

Edited to add: Wow! 5 out of 6 now!
by W Robertson G2G6 Pilot (122k points)
edited by W Robertson
Wonderful!!!
+4 votes

Congrats to you all.

I did nothing here. I just am proud of you all.

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by Astrid Spaargaren G2G6 Pilot (285k points)

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