Who can help with an external template update?

Question

Hi, I was working on the Data Doctors challenge from this past week (Error 965: Link error 404 Not Found). One that I found is actually an external template link to the (now defunct) kittybrewster.com site. I did a whole bunch that was explicitly for specific charts and didn't use the template but now I've come across about 500 that use {{Kb|m|mt}} (https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Template:Kb). The whole site was archived via the Wayback Machine but I don't know how to update the "m" from the template, which originally directed to: http://www.kittybrewster.com/members/table_m.htm now direct to:  https://web.archive.org/web/20161213081759/http://www.kittybrewster.com/members/table_m.htm

I'm new to template use and I really just want to get the 404 links off the error list so I can go back to fixing the ones that do not use the template. Thanks for your help!

ETA: A bump. Also more tags.

Comments

Hi Beverly. Try adding the tag  ales  to your question. Aleš Trtnik is one person who could probably help.

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Thanks.

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I'm wondering if there is any way to bump this up so someone who can help me fix this might see it.

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Since it's related to suggestions you could try posting on https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1632287/suggestions-news-and-updates-september-3rd-2023 (or wait a day or two and post on the new one when it comes out).

Answer 1

I don't think links can be automatically redirected to Archive.com, since there is a timestamp in the URL.

Did the site move to another domain?

Comments

It was Sir William's website -- I don't think anyone took it over after he passed.

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I'm fairly certain the hosted site did not move; there is no evidence per Google that it did.

The site was owned and run by our own Sir William Arbuthnot (https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Arbuthnot-53), 2nd Baronet of Kittybrewster who, sadly, died not long ago. I believe the domain registration simply expired. I think the Wayback captures are the only way to access the webpages.

The .com domain name is now a sportsbook gambling operation. The whois data shows that the domain registration was updated 25 December 2022; I assume that's when the new owners took over.

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Drat. Jaime was faster. I was Googling and Whoising while she was answering. I gotta learn to be quicker...

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Hah no worries, I've done that tons of times.

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Er, uh... After Jamie's reply brought me back here, I think I need to clarify something. WHOIS (pronounced just like it looks) is technically a query-and-response protocol used to request information from the internet's repository of domain names, IP address blocks, and so forth. The common, though slightly incorrect, use is more like, "Let me check the WHOIS database." Thus the completely fabricated verbing gerund, "Whoising." Just because, you know, to be clear about what I was doing...

Answer 2

Ales Trtnik is probably best (WikitreeX).

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Trtnik-2 = FYI Link for Ales

Can try Replace 404 suggestion with Archive Org Soft Link as (cut/paste) as a Research or See Also section

--Maybe use Standard Verbage (something like this? under source/Reference)

"==SEE ALSO ==

The source of most of this data is Kittybrewster.com - (Table 02) — This is not a primary source and you  are invited to improve upon it or add additional viewable links."

or maybe = Index of Arbuthnots - Internet Archives = https://web.archive.org/web/20160326062243/http://www.kittybrewster.com/index1.htm