Matilda married, as his first wife, Robert Marmion V, son of Robert Marmion IV. [1]
Complete Peerage does not indicate the parents of Maud, merely hinting that she is a descendant of Walter de Beauchamp. [2]
The currently assigned parents of Matilda would both have been about 50 years old at her birth. Although possible, it is unlikely for this time period.
Undated Charter: Her son Robert Marmion, neveu de Guillaume de Beauchamp made a declaration concerning a donation of property to Sainte-Marie-de-Barberie and the charter dated 1224 under which Robert Marmion le jeune, fils de Mathilde de Beauchamp donated property to the same abbey. [3]
William de Beauchamp as the father of Matilda, would make William de Beauchamp the uncle of her son Robert, and Walter de Beauchamp her grandfather.
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However, I find the current sources provided here totally unpersuasive; and there is a chance this is a complete fiction hinging on William Marmion, the notional grandson of this profile... who might be a fictional version of the historical William Marmion, Baron Marmion of Torrington, who was a priest and rebel and not known to have had children:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Marmion,_Baron_Marmion_of_Torrington
This Marmion family needs a lot of work, in my opinion.
This particular profile/merge is one of about 5 problems within two clicks of here on the pedigree chart. It looks like WikiTree is earnestly trying to synthesize a lot of mutually-exclusive, self-contradictory info (that is to say: we're trying to do something impossible, and wrong and bad) combining many incompatible sources... some of whom freely admit they're basically guessing because we just don't know. Because no primary source evidence exists (and perhaps, never will).
Wouldn't it be better for WikiTree to announce we don't know either... than be false-positive wrong publishing fictional people or hypothetical relationship connections?
On the other hand in reviewing the "sources" for this family group, it's clear that our sources disagree with each other and there is no consensus on the factual relationship connections for a couple generations of the Robert Marmion line. I mention this as you may want to look into that before resolving this merge.
But what we are publishing now is definitely wrong and in need to clean up, to de-dupe these double Mauds.
Isaac in California
https://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Marmion-Family-Tree-57
That said, it's unclear whom that death date describes. Probably the mother of her husband.
Morever, the link we provide to Cawley in our sources gives this:
"MATILDA de Beauchamp . Her marriage and parentage are confirmed by the undated charter under which her son "Robert Marmion, neveu de Guillaume de Beauchamp" made a declaration concerning a donation of property to Sainte-Marie-de-Barberie and the charter dated 1224 under which "Robert Marmion le jeune, fils de Mathilde de Beauchamp" donated property to the same abbey[946]. m as his first wife, ROBERT Marmion [V], son of ROBERT Marmion [IV] & his wife --- (-before [1217])."
Which is different from the text in the quote in the bio.
What's up with that? Has Cawley updated his work? It appears he has removed the name and pushed the date back. If same person, we can now bracket her death date as between 1194 and 1217. But that's not this Maud. That's probably her mother in law.
OR is WikiTree wrong?
It appears Wikipedia says this same Matilda is the daughter of William of Elmley... not Walter. That's merely a hint not a source. I don't have an answer, but I think I see the problem. Wikipedia and Cawley are incompatible. Anybody trying to synthesize both is going to be tripping on generations/conflations. Compare:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Marmion,_3rd_Baron_Marmion_of_Tamworth
Is Wikipedia correct that Marmion-27 married both Maud Beauchamp and Philippa NN? And by them had multiple sons named Robert? Or is that wrong; and WikiTree is correct that Marmion-44 who m. Philippa NN is the son of Marion-27 by Maud?
Anybody know this family cold? Is Cawley right that her son Robert's charter identifies him as the nephew of William de Beauchamp (which Wikipedia alleges is her father vice brother).
Possible solution = Cawley is wrong.
Consider if: the undated charter Cawley bases Maud's parentage upon -- apparently sole source -- says this Maud's son Robert has an uncle William. That's all we know. Well, fine. Why can't that be William II (d.1197) in lieu of William I (d.1170)?
That would make this Maud the daughter of William I by Maud de Braose (which would explain her name) not daughter of Walter by Emeline dAbitot.
p.s. Warning we could have to do this all over again with the two Emma de Beauchamps; and the various Roberts. So let's get to the bottom of it here.
Matilda/Maud was dau. to Walter and Emmeline (d'Abitot) Beauchamp.
MATILDA de Beauchamp
Parents need to be detached here and a merge with Beauchamp-1182 will attach the correct parents and a more likely b. date.