Hannah Cutler, born July 26, 1638, is the daughter of James Cutler, by his first wife, Anna. Hannah Cutler married John Collier (Collar) about 1658 in Watertown.
The will of James Cutler does not mention daughter, Hannah, but names John Collar, as Hannah had predeceased her father. Also mentioned are Mary Johnson and Hannah Winter. The Stuart Bloom assessment of the will of James Cutler appears to be in error.
Birth
Hannah, daughter of James Cutler and his wife Anna, was born 26 July 1638 (26th of 5m 1638, OS, 5m is July) in Watertown, Middlesex County, Massachusetts [1], and grew up in the home of James Cutler.
Confusion with step-sister Hannah King
Seven years after the birth of Hannah Cutler, Hannah's mother Anna having died, James Cutler married Mary Unknown, widow of Thomas King. Thomas and Mary had a daughter Hannah King, born before March, 1645. The two step-sisters named Hannah then grew up in the same household, creating confusion for genealogists of later generations.
Stuart Bloom [2] conflated the two Hannahs, assumed that the merged Hannah was a posthumous daughter of Thomas King, thus born in 1644 or 1645, and grew up in the household with the name Hannah Cutler. Bloom bases this reasoning on Sanborn [3] who uses the will of James Cutler and other contemporary documents to support a convincing analysis that shows that Hannah Winter was the posthumous daughter of Thomas King and the stepdaughter of James Cutler, and not—as had been long accepted -- Cutler’s daughter.
In fact, however, two girls named Hannah grew up in the same household.
Marriage
About 1660 in Watertown, Middlesex, Massachusetts Hannah Cutler married John Winter[4]
The marriage was certainly before 10 April 1665, the date their first child was born. [5] probably in Watertown. By 10 Apr 1665, the date their first child was born, they were living in Cambridge Farms (Lexington).
↑ Sanborn, “Great Migration Diary” NEXUS 15:202-203 (1998) Cited by Stuart Bloom.
See also:
Watertown Records of BMD
Cutler, Nahum S., A Cutler Memorial and Genealogical History (Press of E. A. Hall & Co., Greenfield, Mass., 1889)(Free e-book. Available at Google Play)
Hudson, Charles, History of the Town of Lexington, Vol. II - Genealogies, (Houghton Mifflin Company, Boston, 1915) (Free e-book. Available at Google Play)
Weis, Frederick Lewis, Th.D. Early Generations of the Family of Robert Harrington of Watertown, Massachusetts 1634 and Some of His Descendants
Is Hannah your ancestor? Please don't go away! Login to collaborate or comment, or
contact
a profile manager, or ask our community of genealogists a question.
Robert Anderson’s sketch of James Cutler in The Great Migration 1634-1635 Vol. II, 1999 includes his daughter Hannah on page 270.
“HANNAH, b. Watertown 26 July 1638 [WaVR 1:5] m. by about 1659 John Coller.” Anderson goes on to explain his thought process in detail for arriving at the conclusion that Hannah married John Coller on pgs. 271-272. I post below excerpt of the sketch.
“We know that two of the heirs listed in the second half of James Cutler's 1684 will were the children of his second wife, Mary ( ) King, with her first husband. It is significant that James used two formats in his will, saying "my daughter the wife of John Parmenter," "my daughter Sarah Waight," "my daughter Johana Russell," and "my daughter Jeinima," but then saying "I have already given to Mary Johnson," and 'I have already given to Hannah Winter." In the case of Mary Johnson, we have both a birth record and a marriage record which calls her Mary King. In the case of Hannah Winter, there are no such records, unfortunately, but we still conclude that she was born King and not Cutler. Mary Walton Ferris concluded that Hannah Winter was the daughter of James Cutler and his first wife, Ann, but she neglected to find a wife for Richard Parks [Dawes-Gates 1:200]. She also assumed that the only other unclaimed Cutler daughter, Mary, must have married John Colter, who had appeared first in James's list of children already in receipt of part of their portions, this despite the fact that the only known wife of John Coller was Hannah, who was born about 1638. Hannah Cutler, daughter of James and Ann, was born in 1638 and was their oldest daughter, so it is not surprising that her husband was first in James Cutler's list. This combined with the fact that Richard Parks's only known wife was Mary, born about 1643 (aged 39 in 1682 [MA Arch 30:1211), makes it clear that the wife of John Coller was Hannah Cutler, the wife of Richard Parks was Mary Cutler, and the wife of John Winter was Hannah King, last and unrecorded child of THOMAS KING and his wife Mary. “
We also have “Great Migration Diary” in NEHGS NEXUS 15:202-203 (1998) by Melinde Lutz Sanborn FASG. Here Sanborn lays out much the same reasoning as Anderson but in even more detail. Both writings come to the conclusion based on the evidence at hand that Hannah Cutler, daughter of James Cutler married John Coller NOT John Winter.
Hannah had died by the time her father made his will in 1684 as he named her husband John Coller in the will and not Hannah. The only Hannah listed in James Cutler’s will is Hannah Winter.
Based on the research and evidence presented by these FASG’s I propose that:
1) John Winter be removed as husband of Hannah Cutler
2) John Coller be added as husband of Hannah Cutler
3) Hannah King (profile King-4715) be made wife of John Winter (Winter-461)
I’ve just spent about 25 minutes working on the “new” variations. Short answer is I agree. It’s going to be a chore shifting the Winter children to the “other” Hannah (King). Bond’s “Early Settlers of Watertown “ is my Watertown “bible”. He has Hannah C. marrying John Winter and Mary King marrying John Collar (Collier), and Hannah K. Is not mentioned. On these, Bond is wrong. However, he lists James’s sons first, then his daughters from his will by name and oldest to youngest. As relates to our situation, John Collar is first, making him Hannah C’s husband, then Mary Johnson (Mary K), then Hannah Winter (Hannah K). Mary Cutler, born 1643, is wife of Richard Parks. Mary King, born 1641, adds to the Cutler family duplicate daughter names. I’ll adjust spouses and children. I think we’ve sorted out the Hannah/Hannah mystery. Thanks very much.
If Hannah Cutler Winter had children born after 1672 then the death date listed in the Biorgraphy must be wrong and should be corrected but I haven't seen any source record with a different date.
Hello. This profile appears to have an incorrect spouse: She prob. shouldn't be attached to John Coller who lived until 1705. John's 1st wf was Hannah (Unknown).
(1) John Coller (1632-1705) m. 1st Hannah (Unknown) (b. c. 1638) in Cambridge.
(2) John Coller (1632-1705) m. 2nd MARY CUTLER (1643- ) m. bef 1684, Cambridge. As you've indicated in her bio there's another m. record for same event in Watertown.
Source: "3rd Supplement to Torrey's New England Marriages Prior to 1700" pg.62.
Can this profile be cleaned up? i'm trying to understand the whole Hannah King/Cutler thing... So King and Cutler are sisters from the SAME father, but different mothers? Can this be explained a bit more in the bio for both of them?
Hannah couldn't be the mother of Jonathan b 1675 in England, Mary b 1675 in Watertown and Mary b 1676 in Cambridge. They were all born after her death in 1672.
Hannah married twice:
1st - John Coller Sr. in Apr 1657 (marriage dissolved in a few years (3 children) their last child John Coller Jr was born March 1661
Hannah then married
2nd - John Winter Jr in 1660ish (9 children?)
and John Coller Sr married Hannah's sister, Mary before 1665 (5 children)
Featured Asian and Pacific Islander connections:
Hannah is
20 degrees from 今上 天皇, 15 degrees from Adrienne Clarkson, 20 degrees from Dwight Heine, 20 degrees from Dwayne Johnson, 14 degrees from Tupua Tamasese Lealofioaana, 19 degrees from Stacey Milbern, 15 degrees from Sono Osato, 29 degrees from 乾隆 愛新覺羅, 17 degrees from Ravi Shankar, 23 degrees from Taika Waititi, 19 degrees from Penny Wong and 15 degrees from Chang Bunker
on our single family tree.
Login to see how you relate to 33 million family members.
“HANNAH, b. Watertown 26 July 1638 [WaVR 1:5] m. by about 1659 John Coller.” Anderson goes on to explain his thought process in detail for arriving at the conclusion that Hannah married John Coller on pgs. 271-272. I post below excerpt of the sketch.
“We know that two of the heirs listed in the second half of James Cutler's 1684 will were the children of his second wife, Mary ( ) King, with her first husband. It is significant that James used two formats in his will, saying "my daughter the wife of John Parmenter," "my daughter Sarah Waight," "my daughter Johana Russell," and "my daughter Jeinima," but then saying "I have already given to Mary Johnson," and 'I have already given to Hannah Winter." In the case of Mary Johnson, we have both a birth record and a marriage record which calls her Mary King. In the case of Hannah Winter, there are no such records, unfortunately, but we still conclude that she was born King and not Cutler. Mary Walton Ferris concluded that Hannah Winter was the daughter of James Cutler and his first wife, Ann, but she neglected to find a wife for Richard Parks [Dawes-Gates 1:200]. She also assumed that the only other unclaimed Cutler daughter, Mary, must have married John Colter, who had appeared first in James's list of children already in receipt of part of their portions, this despite the fact that the only known wife of John Coller was Hannah, who was born about 1638. Hannah Cutler, daughter of James and Ann, was born in 1638 and was their oldest daughter, so it is not surprising that her husband was first in James Cutler's list. This combined with the fact that Richard Parks's only known wife was Mary, born about 1643 (aged 39 in 1682 [MA Arch 30:1211), makes it clear that the wife of John Coller was Hannah Cutler, the wife of Richard Parks was Mary Cutler, and the wife of John Winter was Hannah King, last and unrecorded child of THOMAS KING and his wife Mary. “
We also have “Great Migration Diary” in NEHGS NEXUS 15:202-203 (1998) by Melinde Lutz Sanborn FASG. Here Sanborn lays out much the same reasoning as Anderson but in even more detail. Both writings come to the conclusion based on the evidence at hand that Hannah Cutler, daughter of James Cutler married John Coller NOT John Winter.
Hannah had died by the time her father made his will in 1684 as he named her husband John Coller in the will and not Hannah. The only Hannah listed in James Cutler’s will is Hannah Winter.
Based on the research and evidence presented by these FASG’s I propose that:
1) John Winter be removed as husband of Hannah Cutler 2) John Coller be added as husband of Hannah Cutler 3) Hannah King (profile King-4715) be made wife of John Winter (Winter-461)
I was wondering if you've had a chance to see my recent comment above.
I’ve just spent about 25 minutes working on the “new” variations. Short answer is I agree. It’s going to be a chore shifting the Winter children to the “other” Hannah (King). Bond’s “Early Settlers of Watertown “ is my Watertown “bible”. He has Hannah C. marrying John Winter and Mary King marrying John Collar (Collier), and Hannah K. Is not mentioned. On these, Bond is wrong. However, he lists James’s sons first, then his daughters from his will by name and oldest to youngest. As relates to our situation, John Collar is first, making him Hannah C’s husband, then Mary Johnson (Mary K), then Hannah Winter (Hannah K). Mary Cutler, born 1643, is wife of Richard Parks. Mary King, born 1641, adds to the Cutler family duplicate daughter names. I’ll adjust spouses and children. I think we’ve sorted out the Hannah/Hannah mystery. Thanks very much.
(1) John Coller (1632-1705) m. 1st Hannah (Unknown) (b. c. 1638) in Cambridge. (2) John Coller (1632-1705) m. 2nd MARY CUTLER (1643- ) m. bef 1684, Cambridge. As you've indicated in her bio there's another m. record for same event in Watertown.
Source: "3rd Supplement to Torrey's New England Marriages Prior to 1700" pg.62.
Hannah married twice: 1st - John Coller Sr. in Apr 1657 (marriage dissolved in a few years (3 children) their last child John Coller Jr was born March 1661
Hannah then married 2nd - John Winter Jr in 1660ish (9 children?)
and John Coller Sr married Hannah's sister, Mary before 1665 (5 children)
http://collerkin.com/24.html http://www.geni.com/people/Hannah-Winter/6000000003868615081