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John Smith II (1737 - 1813)

John Smith II
Born in Smithfield, Providence, Rhode Islandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married 17 Dec 1757 in Smithfield, Providence, Rhode Islandmap
Descendants descendants
Died at age 75 in Ellisburg, Jefferson, New York, United Statesmap [uncertain]
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Biography

This profile is part of the Smith Name Study.

John was born 22 April 1737 in Smithfield, Providence, Rhode Island, the son of John and Abigail Smith.[1][2]

He married Mary Phillips 17 December 1757 in Smithfield.[3][4] They are found there when the 1774 Colony census was taken, there being 1 male over 16 (John @ 37 yrs), 1 male under 16 (Solomon @ 12 yrs), 2 females above 16 (Mary @ 39 yrs & Phebe @ 16 yrs), and 4 females under 16 (Drucilla @ 15 yrs, Abigail @ 10 yrs, Hannah @ 4 yrs, Mary @ 1 yr).[5]

Several related families migrated together to Adams, Berkshire, Massachusetts for a short time. In the 1790 census, the Phillips, Newell and Smith families are accounted for.[6] Besides John and Mary, 2 daughters are still in the home, Mary and Huldah. Solomon is now grown and listed after his father with 2 females and 4 males under 16 years. There are many other Smith families, including two others with the given name, John.

By the time the census of 1810 was taken, the household of son in law, Nathan Williams, contains a man and women over the age of 45. We can assume the couple was John Smith and Mary Phillips Smith, the parents of Mary.[7] Since they were most likely living with daughter, Mary Smith Williams, they most likely died in Ellisburg.

Research Notes

1, John's father is John and grandfather is Thomas, yet he is given the suffix 3rd, in the records of his marriage and the birth of at least 2 children.[8] There are two possible reasons he was call the 3rd. It might be, as descendant Ed Smith believes, that because there was an older child in the family named John that died, this John was the 3rd in the line with the name John. Another possibility is a custom of that time. It was common to use Jr or, in this case 3rd, to distinguish one from another when there were more than one with the same name living in the same location at any given time. Usually the oldest would be Sr and the youngest Jr or II or perhaps III. The 1790 Census for Smithfield, Providence Rhode Island, where this family was from, shows many carrying Smith as their family name and 3 Johns. Page 2 reveals John, Benjamin, Abraham, George and Clad Smith. Page 4 holds Thomas and Mary Smith households. Page 5 contains Welcome and Emor Smith. On Page 6 we see Jeremiah, Rufus, Jacob, Jesse, John, Jacob, Elijah, Joshua, Eseck, Oliver, and Daniel Smith Jr. On Page 7 we see Daniel, James, Elisha, John, William, Resolved, and Rebecca Smith. The final page of the census holds Thomas, Elisha, Juni and Emor Smith families.[9]

2. Descendant Ed Smith visited the Historical Association of South Jefferson in Adams, Jefferson County, and the Association has family files by surname. The Smith Family File contained a handwritten paper with John Smith born May 3,1737 and Mary Phillips his wife born Apr 30 1735. It then named their children as follows: Phebe Smith born Jan 10,1758; Drusilla Smith born Sept 29,1759; Solomon Smith born June 2, 1762; Abigail Smith born July 21, 1764; Hannah Smith born Jan 3, 1770; Mary Smith born Mch 16, 1773; and Huldah Smith born Feb 18 1775...A subsequent visit found a second handwritten sheet with: John Smith died Feb 15, 1813, age 75 y, 9 m, 19 d. and Mary died Apr 3 1815, age 79 y 11 m 27 d... Phebe and Drusilla married. Phebe remained in Rhode Island. Drusilla married and resided first in MA and later in NH where her first husband died young and she ended in Erie County, PA, where several of her children lived and she remarried there. Mary and Huldah, both married in Jefferson County, NY, where John Smith (1737) and Solomon Smith both lived after leaving Rhode Island with a short stay in Adams Berkshire Co, MA, and also in Oneida County, NY, before settling in Jefferson County.[10][11]

DNA

Descendant of yDNA group NE18 brother Edward Smith-7413 (c1633 ENG-1693 RI) m Anphillis Angell-36. See SmithConnections Northeastern DNA Project.[12]

Acknowledgments

  • Thank you to Kitty Smith for contributions to this profile. Cooper-1 21:12, 11 November 2015 (EST)
  • Thank you to Ed Smith for his contributions of data to this and other Smith profiles.

Sources

  1. Vital record of Rhode Island, 1636-1850: a family register for the people, Vol. 3. Arnold, James Newell, 1844-1927. 1892 Providence, R.I: Narragansett Historical Publishg company. From Town record book 3, Pg 423 Smith, John b. April 22, 1737. Image 470 of 477.
  2. "Rhode Island Births and Christenings, 1600-1914", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F87N-45H : 17 December 2019), John Smith, 1737.
  3. "Rhode Island, Town Clerk, Vital and Town Records, 1630-1945," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2W7-5GW9 : accessed 20 December 2021), John 3rd Smith, 17 December 1757 citing Marriage, Smithfield, Providence, Rhode Island, United States, Rhode Island State Archive, Providence City Archives, city and town clerk offices; FHL microfilm 959,589.
  4. Town Records Book 1 Pg. 105 John, 3d, and Mary Philllips: m. by Daniel Mowry, Jr., Justice ___ 17, 1757. It should be noted that this isn’t the 3rd generation, it is merely naming him as the youngest of 3 adult Smith men in town with the given name John. Vital record of Rhode Island, 1636-1850: a family register for the people, Vol. 3. Arnold, James Newell, 1844-1927. 1892 Providence, R.I: Narragansett Historical Publishing company. Pg 67, Smithfield Marriages, Image 422 of 477.
  5. Census of the Inhabitants of the Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, Taken by Order of the General Assembly, in the Year 1774...Bartlett, John R., Secretary of State. Providence, Knowles, Anthony & co., State Printers, 1858. Providence, images 107-118 of 244. John Smith, Page 110, image 115 of 244. Aldrich, images 105-106. Also found at -http://www.newhorizonsgenealogicalservices.com/1774-ri-colonial-census-smithfield.htm New Horizons Genealogy].
    Smiths in Smithfield:
    SMITH, Daniel 2 - 2 - - - 4 SMITH, Philip 1 - 4 - - - 5 SMITH, Jonathan 2 - 1 - - - 3 SMITH, John 1 1 2 4 - - 8 SMITH, Benjamin 1 - - 1 - - 2 SMITH, Jeremiah, Jr. 1 4 1 3 - - 9 SMITH, Richard 1 1 1 - - - 3 SMITH, Nehemiah 1 1 1 2 - - 5 SMITH, Joshua 3 3 2 3 - - 11 SMITH, John (son of Philip) 1 - 1 4 - - 6 SMITH, Elisha 2 2 2 1 - - 7 SMITH, Daniel, Jr. 3 6 1 - - 1 11 SMITH, Jeremiah 1 1 1 2 - - 5 SMITH, Thomas 2 1 1 1 - - 5 SMITH, Susanna - - 2 - - - 2 SMITH, Emer 2 1 2 - - - 5 SMITH, AbiGail 2 2 2 - - - 6 SMITH, John 3d 2 - 1 2 1 - 6 SMITH, Abraham 3 1 2 - - - 6 SMITH, Jacob 1 - 1 - - - 2 SMITH, Rufus 1 2 1 2 - - 6 SMITH, Thomas, Jr. 1 2 2 - - - 5 SMITH, Thomas 3d 1 - 1 - - - 2 SMITH, Resolved 1 3 1 1 - - 6 SMITH, William 2 1 2 - - - 5 SMITH, Benjamin 3 2 2 2 - 1 10 SMITH, Benjamin 3d 1 2 1 - - - 4 SMITH, William, Jr. 1 1 1 2 - - 5 SMITH, Benjamin 1 4 1 1 - - 7 SMITH, Resolved 2 - - - - - 2 SMITH, Ezekiel 1 1 1 - - - 3
    Phillips in Smithfield:
    PHILLIPS, Daniel 2 - 3 - - - 5 PHILLIPS, Daniel, Jr. 1 - 1 4 - - 6 PHILLIPS, Isaac 1 3 2 2 - - 8 PHILLIPS, Stephen 1 2 1 1 - - 5 PHILLIPS, Stephen, Jr. 2 3 2 2 - - 9 PHILLIPS, Rufus 2 4 1 2 - - 9 PHILLIPS, John 4 - 3 2 - - 9 PHILLIPS, Israel 1 1 1 - - - 3 PHILLIPS, Ezekiel 1 1 1 - - - 3 PHILLIPS, Zephaniah 1 - 1 1 - - 3 PHILLIPS, Ezekiel 1 - 1 - - - 2
  6. "United States Census, 1790," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHK2-XL8 : accessed 9 January 2022), John Smith, Adams, Berkshire, Massachusetts, United States; citing p. 24, NARA microfilm publication M637, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 4; FHL microfilm 568,144.
  7. "United States Census, 1810," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XH2T-C57 : accessed 9 January 2022), Nathan Williams, Ellisburg, Jefferson, New York, United States; citing p. 555, NARA microfilm publication M252 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 28; FHL microfilm 181,382.
  8. Image of town record
  9. "United States Census, 1790," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9YY1-91VS?cc=1803959&wc=3XT9-M2H%3A1584071118%2C1584071130%2C1584071131 : 21 May 2015), Rhode Island > Providence > Smithfield > image 5 of 8; citing NARA microfilm publication M637, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
  10. Historical Association of South Jefferson, 29 East Church Street, Adams, Jefferson County, New York. Hand written vital records of the John Smith and Mary Phillips family located in the Smith file and a copy obtained by Smith-44916 Ed Smith in 2001.
  11. Email correspondence between Ed Smith and Connie Mack December 2021.
  12. SmithConnections Northeastern DNA Project, haplogroup Rb1 NE18 Christopher Smith-27264 (imm. from Stratford-Upon-Avon) Via Kits #85023, #111578, and #343506.
  • Death Record taken from other geni.com record with no sources. NEED valid references
  • Smithfield Marriages, in Arnold, James N. Vital Record of Rhode Island, 1636–1850: First series, births, marriages and deaths. A family register for the people. (Narragansett Hist. Publ. Co., 1891), 67.
  • Birth Record - URL "http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rigenweb/Smithfield11.html#P". Visited on 12/6/2017
  • Daughter Drusilla: "Rhode Island, Town Clerk, Vital and Town Records, 1630-1945," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F89J-681 : 4 November 2020), John 3rd Smith in entry for Drusilla Smith, 29 Sep 1759; citing Birth, Smithfield, Providence, Rhode Island, United States, various city archives, Rhode Island; FHL microfilm 959,589. See also: "Rhode Island Births and Christenings, 1600-1914", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F87F-F55 : 17 December 2019), John Smith in entry for Drusilla Smith, 1759.
  • Daughter Phebe: "Rhode Island, Town Clerk, Vital and Town Records, 1630-1945," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F89J-68T : 4 November 2020), John 3rd Smith in entry for Phebe Smith, 10 Jan 1758; citing Birth, Smithfield, Providence, Rhode Island, United States, various city archives, Rhode Island; FHL microfilm 959,589.




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Smith-41978 and Smith-143829 appear to represent the same person because: Children Solomon and Drusilla are siblings. Both have the same spouse and lived in the same locations. Birth year for 143829 does not match but was marked uncertain.
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