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Johann (Frederic) Frederic de Traitac (abt. 1688 - bef. 1750)

Johann [uncertain] (Jean) Frederic de Traitac formerly Frederic
Born about in Germanymap [uncertain]
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
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Died before before about age 62 in Louisiana, Nouvelle-Francemap [uncertain]
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Biography

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Jean (Frederic) Frederic de Traitac has German Roots.

Jean Frederic, de Traitac, was born about 1688 (estimated), probably in present-day Germany. Pointe Coupee, Louisiana records for his children, Catherine and Antoine, show his name as Jean Frederic, Jean Frederick, or Jean Frederic de Traitac.[1]

He married Marie Catherine Boulair c.1713, possibly in pays d'Illinois.[2]

Known children of the marriage:
  1. Marie Catherine Frederic (c.1714)
  2. Jean Francois Frederic (c.1727-1748)
  3. Antoine Frederic (c.1730-1750)[2]

He died before August 1750, when he was mentioned as deceased at the time of his son Antoine's burial.[2]

Research Notes

  • Note that none of the sources cited in this profile are primary for him, so the profile has been marked as Unsourced pending better direct sources.
  • Highly possible Johann Jean Frederic of Fort de Chartes is the same as this man.
  • There are entries in the Kaskaskia Manuscripts (currently unreachable online) which mention a surgeon major at Fort de Chartes which would lend credence to the Illinois connection. It is also interesting to note that traiter in French means "to treat" so maybe the dit name refers to his occupation. Also, his wife's surname from Kaskaskia doesn't quite match, but one of the scribes could have butchered the name. The book, Kaskaskia Under the French Regime, p. 73, mentions "a German, Frederick" who was posted as the surgeon at Fort de Chartres sometime after about 17 Oct 1727, when the previous surgeon died. His wife is mentioned in the footnotes as "Marie Catherine de Poutre." The page also says, "in 1736 it was reported that the surgeon there had died insolvent, leaving four young children. Two of them, the elder being twelve years old, were taken to the Ursuline orphanage at New Orleans; the other two remained in Illinois." See this page in the online volume. This indicates he died in Illinois country by 1736.
  • This profile said he died in Louisiana, but there is no source that shows this. His oldest known child, Catherine, is mentioned as "a native of Cannes Brulées" (current-day Kenner, a suburb of New Orleans) in both of her marriage records, so it is implied that she was born there and therefore her parents were in south Louisiana at that time. But his youngest known son, Antoine, was "a native of Illinois," so did the family go back to Illinois country before coming down again to Pointe Coupee? Based on this logic, it's conceivable that he died in Louisiana. However, if Jean Frederic was the surgeon of Fort de Chartres, it's possible that he died in Illinois in 1737. Antoine and Jean Francois would have been the two younger children that stayed there.
  • 29:2:11:1 explanation requested, citation needed.
Sale of a house and lot by Denis Dutrou and his wife Marie Joseph Gosse to Johann Fredericq, surgeon major, in exchange for a filly, some lumber, shingles and other items. Thomas; Mathurin; Hubert Finet; Place. (lp. Com. I, 180/K39)
  • 29:8:9:1 explanation requested, citation needed.
Sale of a house and lot by Frederic and his wife Marie Catherine Depoutre to Nicolas Imbert, locksmith, for 600 livres of flour and various other items. Executed at Fort de Chartres. Place; Thomas. (lp. Com. I, 189/ K42)

Sources

  1. DOBR, vol. 1b, p. 73
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 Diocese of Baton Rouge Catholic Church Records: Pointe Coupee Records, 1722-1769, vol. 1b ("DOBR") (Baton Rouge, LA: Diocese of Baton Rouge Archives, 2002), p. 73;
    Antoine Frederick (Jean Frederick and Marie Catherine BOULAIR, both decd.) age abt. 20, native of Illinois, bur. 18 Aug. 1750 (PCP-1,100) also (PCP-2, 55)

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Joyce,

What a great find in the book. It would make some sense if he had died in the campaign against the Chickasaw in 1736. My 6th great grandfather Etienne Langlois was reportedly burned at the stake.

posted on Frederic-110 (merged) by Ed Lebeau III
Frederic-73 and Frederic-110 appear to represent the same person because: Frederic-73 is limited and unsourced. Both appear to be German. Both died in Pointe Coupee. Put together with information from the Kaskaskia Manuscripts it makes sense. Would be happy to collaborate further.
posted on Frederic-110 (merged) by Ed Lebeau III
Frederic de Traitac-1 and Frederic-Leonard-3 appear to represent the same person because: Not much to go on but same daughter, thanks
posted on Frederic-110 (merged) by Joseph Keith Savoie (1957-2022)

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