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Unknown (Unknown) Van Valkenburg (abt. 1540 - bef. 1609)

Unknown [uncertain] Van Valkenburg formerly [surname unknown]
Born about in Millen, Limburg Province, Netherlandsmap
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married 1569 in Millen, Limburg, Netherlandsmap
Descendants descendants
Died before before about age 69 in Millen, Limburg Province, Netherlandsmap
Profile last modified | Created 11 Apr 2017
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Biography

This profile represents the wife (name not known) of Andries van Valckenburch. He was a tailor in Millen (Limburg, Belgium). Andries and his wife both died before 27 October 1609, presumably in Millen.[1]

They were the parents of Lamberg Dryeskens [i.e. Andriessen] van Valckenburch, also of Millen, who died on 9 March 1651. [1]

Research Notes

See https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:NetworkFeed&who=Dryeskens-2 for the history of this profile prior to the change of LNAB.

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 Hoff, Henry B. "Van Valckenburg Ancestry in the Netherlands." The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, Vol. 112, issue 2 (April 1981), page 79. New York, New York: New York Genealogical and Biographical Society, 1981. Citing article on the Dutch ancestry of Lambert van Valckenburch of Albany published in the January-February 1980 issue of De Nederlandsche Leeuw.
See also:

https://navvf.org/VVgene/pafg01.htm#9473





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I don't think we know her name. The cited source navvf.org, specifically https://navvf.org/VVgene/pafg01.htm , does not have a name for her.

All that I think we truly know about her is where she lived, who she married (and we have a basis for estimating the date), and that she died before 27 October 1609. Maria is the name of her son's wife and Dryeskens is her husband's patronymic (not her last name).

Is there a reliable source I don't know about?

posted on Dryeskens-2 (merged) by Ellen Smith
I have assumed that Maria's Maiden name is Dryeskens is simply because the mothers maiden name was normally used as the middle name of at least one (1) child. Yes you are correct there is no name listed at the www.navvf.org Genealogy, all that is there is Andries married MRS ANDRIES VAN VALKENBURG about 1567 in , Netherlands. Mrs. was born in , Netherlands. She died before Oct 1609..
posted on Dryeskens-2 (merged) by Michael Braden
Thanks for explaining, Michael.

The naming practice you describe was not followed by the Dutch in the 16th and 17th centuries. Middle names were unheard of. A person's second name was their patronymic name, derived from their father's first name. For example a son of Jan typically would be recorded with the patronymic name Jansz, Janse, or Janssen and a daughter of Jan would be called Jans. The name Dryeskens is unusual, but the short article by Henry B. Hoff, entitled "Van Valckenburg Ancestry in the Netherlands" in The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, Vol. 112, issue 2 (April 1981), page 79, indicates that it is a patronymic name for a son of Andries (probably a name from a Dutch-related dialect, such as Flemish or Frisian). Her son got that patronymic name because his father was named Andries.

Her LNAB should be changed to Unknown -- I will revise it if you don't want to do so.

Additionally, it is useful to know that Dutch women did not normally use their husbands' last names. I have seen a few exceptions to this principle, mostly women with exceptionally prominent husbands, such as Marritie Olafs (Van Cortlandt) van Rensselaer. We Americans tend to assume that our ancestors had the same naming practices that prevailed in America of the early 20th century, but that is not the case. The New Netherland Settlers project has a policy of not applying a husband's name to a woman unless there is a contemporary record of her being identified by that name; unfortunately, we continually contend with WikiTreers who diligently add husbands' names to the Current Last Names fields for women who never used those names.

posted on Dryeskens-2 (merged) by Ellen Smith
Ma'am

I am sure that you are quite capable of correcting this profile since it is not locked.

Since you have decided that it is in error and have changed the Biography to what you decided it should be then you should have changed the profile also. You want it changed then DO IT.

I am sure that I will get another reply from you that is neither needed or wanted. Again you don't like this Van Valkenburg listing then YOU fix it, I refuse to change it.

posted on Dryeskens-2 (merged) by Michael Braden
I am sorry that you are so offended by my changes, Michael. Your last version of the profile essentially said you did not have any information other than what you found on the navvf.org website and that you hoped someone else could find additional information. I believe the content that I added is good information, coming from a rather solid source that I had already added to some other profiles for this family. I did not see a need to keep your statements about lack of information.

As a WikiTree volunteer leader for the New Netherland project, I spend a lot of time trying to help other members connect with good information about New Netherland families and their Dutch ancestors, and that is what I have been trying to do on this profile -- part of our WikiTree collaborative efforts to develop the best possible genealogical information. Pretty much everybody with New Netherland ancestry comes to the topic of New Netherland genealogy with many misconceptions (I know that I did!), and I think it is important to help others learn (just as others have helped me learn).

posted on Dryeskens-2 (merged) by Ellen Smith

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