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Richard John Bagnall (abt. 1710 - 1773)

Richard John Bagnall
Born about in County Meath, Irelandmap
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Husband of — married 1734 in Irelandmap
Husband of — married 1745 in Irelandmap
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Died at about age 63 in Hawkinstown, Piercetown, County Meath, Irelandmap
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Biography

Richard was born about 1710 and died in 1773.[1]

William Bomford of Cushinstown leases to Richard Bagnall of Hawkinstown in the Parish of Piercetown, Co Meath, 54 plantation acres (87 statute) of Cushinstown, bounded on the north by Hawkinstown, on the east by the great road from Drogheda to Ratoath, and south-west by that part of Cushinstown now occupied by William Bomford for three lives or 21 years at a rent of £36.15.4.  (Book 216 Page 118 No 142027) These last two leases and that of 1728 confirms the site of Cushenstown House. It was next to Crossmacoole in the southwest corner of the townland. The house was demolished before 1836 but another was built which was called Crossmacoole House. The present two storey farm house looks as though it was built in the late l800s or early 1900s and must be on the site of William’s house. Hawkinstown is the townland just north of Bodman and Crossmacoole[2]

Richard Bagnall of Hawkinstown, Meath Gent. Wife Anne, 1) dau Elizabeth, 2) Anne Rothwell wfe of Wm Rothwell 3)Alice, 4) Charlotte 5)Amelia 6) Susanna Grand children Richard and Anne Rothwell, Sons Eldest Edward 2) Richard 3) James, Brother James, [3]

  • Will Transcription:

"Richard Bagnall of Hawkinstown co Meath, Gent, whereas I am possessed of the lands of Hawkinstown by lease for years, the lands of Clattertown by lease for life and years, and part of the lands of Cushinstown by lease and lives all in the Co. of Meath and also of the lands of Killeen, County Dublin by lease for years which together with my other substance? I dispose of in manner following: To wife Ann Bagnall all my interest in said lease of part of the lands of Cushinstown which I hold from William Bomford Esq to her own us, and if she survives the lives in said lease named or hereby granted I order that she be paid the sum of twenty pounds yearly for every year she shall live after the determination of said lease as a part of Cushinstown and of the rents, issues and profits of the said lands of Clattertown and in case said lease of said part of Cushinstown should not expire in my said wife's lifetime I order that she shall have power to bequeath said lease.

If said lease of Hawkinstown be defeated by the determination now depending on suit between Vipont and Rowley, I bequeath to said eldest son Edward Bagnall all my estates and interest in Clattertown subject to the payment of portions and legacies as herein mentioned but in case said lease of Hawkinstown shall not become ? under the contingency afore said I bequeath to my second son Richard Bagnall and my 3rd son James Bagnall jointly severally all my estate and interest in old lease and lands of Clattertown. (to be equally divided between them)

I order that the sum of for a year shall be expended on the clothing, maintenance and education of my Richard and James Bagnall.

I order that my said wife Ann Bagnall shall have my house offices and that part of my lands of Hawkinstown which I now occupy, she paying my sum 110 pounds yearly sent for same during my eldest son's Edwards minority. I appoint said Ann Bagnall to be guardian to my said several children who are under 21 years of age.

I nominate and appoint my said wife Ann Bagnall, my brother James Bagnall and my son in law William Rothwell and Robert Madden of Meadsbrook Co Meath, Esq executors of my last will and testament 30th April, 1773 Witnesses, James Dempsey, William Bagnall, and Cheney." [4]

Research Notes

Speculation regarding his Lineage, See Colonel Thomas Bagenal for more information.

As the discussion under Colonel Thomas Bagenal explained one of Thomas's sons is believed to be John Bagnall d. 1719 who married Ann from Tipperary. Their children were William Bagnall of Shanrehan who married Elizabeth, (Information often describes her as Elizabeth Marlehill however other information suggests Marlehill was a location and was where she was from - "Bagnell, William of Marlehill, a relation to John Bagnell, sometimes on the Grand Jury, has but a small fortune."[5] ) Edward who married Elizabeth Shaw, Rebecca who married Mr Miller (John?) a daughter who married Richard Shaw of Shrove Hall, Tipperary, and Mary who married Mr Andrews (and had sons Thomas, Henry and Edward.) It seems the Elizabeth who married William Bagnall of Shanrehan was of Marlehill also transcribed as Marle-Hill, Tipperary.

There is some speculation in several trees that suggests Richard John is a son of this William Bagnall and his wife Elizabeth of Shanrehan.[6] Could he be a son of this eldest son of John and Anne, named William who married Elizabeth? They seemed to have sons, William, Edward and John.

Eva Plewman also suggests a link between a John Bagnall of Trim (1677 - 1743) and the previously discussed Bagnalls of Tipperary. A stone to his memory is in St Patrick's Churchyard and states: This stone erected for and by Robert Bagnall (it states Begnall) for his posterity, Here lyeth the body of the father of the above John Bagnall (Bignell), who departed this life March 9th, 1749, aged 72, also William Bagnall son of ye said John deceased yd said December 10th 1742 aged 33, also George Bignall (Bagnall) son of said John who died June 1st, 1747 aged 33, also Grissel Bagnall died Feb 29, 1737 aged 60. Eva then suggests that Edward Bagnall of Lodge Park, Trim, Meath is most likely a descendant of this lineage. What she has not put together is that this Edward Bagnall of Lodge Park was born in 1760 and is most definitely the eldest son of Richard John Bagnall. If Edward is connected to them, it may well be reasonable to suggest that this Richard John Bagnall was the son of John Bagnall of Trim and Edward his grandson. It has been confirmed that Richard John Bagnall did have a brother named Robert (according to Eva's information, so is it him that organised the stone?) and another James of Ashpark, County Meath[7]

If John Bagnall of Trim was his father, was this his parents marriage? John Bagnall of Rahen, co Meath, farmer ... m Hannah Coatees 1715? [8]

It does seem probable despite the lack of certainty regarding his parents that he was a descendant of Nicolas Bagenal the Marshall of the Army probably via his son Dudley Bagenal and his son George Bagenal and his son Colonel Thomas Bagenal. Colonel Thomas reputedly had four sons and a daughter Jane Bagnall, a daughter of Thomas Bagnall. Jane married Edward Butler.

Over time there have been many different spellings of this surname. It seems to have been transcribed mostly as Bagenal to begin with and gradually has become most often Bagnall.

DNA Research

Several descendants of Richard John Bagnall have had DNA matches. There have been DNA matches also from a descendant of Richard's first marriage with a descendant of Richard's second marriage. There have been matches of descendants of a couple of descendants from his second marriage between each other. Descendants of Richard Bagnall junior and Charlotte Bagnall have matched. A descendant of Richard Bagnall junior has had a match with a descendant of Ann Bagnall of the first marriage. Two descendants of Charlotte Bagnall have had matches to a descendant from the first marriage. It would be good to substantiate this with further testing.

  • A paternal relationship is suggested by a triangulated group consisting of E. Goodbody Gedmatch T320821 and H Benzies Gedmatch T887928 and B. Jackson Gedmatch T756108 sharing a segment of about 32.5 segments on Chromosome 5.

Sources

  1. "A Family Tapestry - The Interwoven threads of some Anglo-Irish Families" (1948) By Eva Gertrude Plewman Appleton, pg 19, 20
  2. The Irish Bomfords, Chapter XIII http://www.bomford.net/IrishBomfords/Chapters/Chapter13/Chapter13.htm#13.5 _Lease_-_Cushenstown _19th_January_1762_
  3. Betham Genealogical Abstracts
  4. Thrift Genealogical Abstracts - Preogative Will 1773
  5. County of Tipperary 1775 - Yearly Estates
  6. http://www.andreapayne.com/familygroup.php?familyID=F13580&tree=tree1
  7. Thrift Genealogical Abstracts
  8. Bagnall marriages, http://www.rayparsons.com/bagnall/prermar.htm
  • A paternal relationship is confirmed by a triangulated group consisting of E. Goodbody Gedmatch T320821 and H Benzies Gedmatch T887928 and B. Jackson Gedmatch T756108 sharing a segment of about 32.5 segments on Chromosome 5.




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a segment of about 32.5 segments on Chromosome 5

Should read 32.5 centimorgans

posted by Donald Barnes
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