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Christian (Barclay) de Barclay (abt. 1345)

Christian de Barclay formerly Barclay
Born about in Brechin, Forfarshire, Scotlandmap
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married 29 Oct 1364 [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died [date unknown] [location unknown]
Profile last modified | Created 14 Feb 2013
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Declaration of Arbroath
Christian (Barclay) de Barclay was descended from a signer of the Declaration of Arbroath.
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Biography

  • Christian de Barclay married Sir Robert Innes, son of William de Innes, 7th Baron de Innes and Margaret Leslie, circa 29 October 1364.

Family

  • Sir Robert Innes

Children

  • Sir Alexander de Innes, 9th Laird Innes+ d. 28 Apr 1412
  • Sir Walter de Innes
  • Giles (Jill) de Innes

Research Notes

Christian has been removed as a daughter of Margaret Brechin Barclay and David de Barclay, as the evidence does not support this relationship.

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Is "Forfarshire" an anachronism for the birthplace on this profile, in her era?

Wouldn't it have been Angus in the 1300s, and for another 400 years after?

posted by Isaac Taylor
Thank you for your question. I am sure you are right about this. I assume that the reason it is what it is is because the original PM allowed the automatic naming system to generate the full placename.

But I think the appropriate action should be to remove the placename entirely, as it is almost certainly impossible to find a reliable source for the birth place.

posted by Nigel Parker
Hi Isaac,

The Scotland Project follows the historical record for the counties and the time periods involved with each profile. Maybe this link might help with your misunderstanding. http://www.jaunay.com/Scotland_structure.html

posted by David Urquhart
Why is she LNAB'd as "de Barclay" rather than Barclay or Barclay de Brechin? See her father mentioned here:

https://archive.org/stream/scotspeeragefoun08pauluoft#page/529/mode/1up

Apologies in advance, Scotland Project team, if I'm ignorant of your naming style guide preferences & policies.

Respectfully,

posted by Isaac Taylor
edited by Isaac Taylor
This is a fairly old profile. If we were creating it today the LNAB would certainly not have the 'de' prefix or the 'of Brechin' suffix. It would be Barclay or Berclay or Berkeley or one of the other variants, depending on the sources found. I know it is possible to change the LNAB, and I understand your question, but on the whole I think it is more important to spend the time on finding better sources.
posted by Nigel Parker
Correction to my first reply: I see now that the LNAB *is* Barclay. But I stand with rest of my comments.
posted by Nigel Parker
Hi Isaac,

Nigel has given a good answer....and to add a little more. Because surnames were often originally derived from place names, the "de", which means "of", was often added...see link https://www.dictionary.com/browse/de- And "de Brechin", which is a place designation, would not be used in the profiles LNAB or Last Name At Birth. I hope that helps.

posted by David Urquhart

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