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William Edmund Elder (abt. 1686 - abt. 1755)

William Edmund Elder
Born about in Rappahannock, Colony of Virginiamap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married about 1711 [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died about at about age 69 in Richmond County, Colony of Virginiamap
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Birth: about 1686, based on the fact that his mother remarried by 1687, and his half-sister was born Aug-1688.
Place of Birth: assume Rappahannock Co., VA, based on parent's location:
1) In 1685, his father Peter Elder purchased inventory in Rappahannock VA.
2) In 1687, his mother Elizabeth remarried in Rappahannock Co, Virginia.
Ref: parent's profile for supporting documents.
Note: Richmond County was created 16 April 1692 from Rappahannock (Old) County.


Death: about 1755, based on his Will:
William Elder made his will on 24 Apr 1754; it was proved 3 Feb 1755
Executors Charles and Ann Elder, with John Milner their security
Ref: transcription of his Will, further down on this page.
Place of Death: assume Richmond County, Virginia, where he had land purchases, and where his Will was written.
Ref: land transactions, further down on this page.


William Elder, son of Peter Elder and Elizabeth
William's father, Peter Elder, is determined by a court record saying that Elizabeth Elder (widow of Peter) married Edward Morris
William's parents are also confirmed by his mother's will that names son William Elder, along with the Morris children from her 2nd marriage.
William's Mother:
A Court record from 1687 says that Edward Morris married Elizabeth, relict (widow) of Peter Elder of North Farnham Parish [Wilkerson, Index to Marriages of Old Rappahannock and Essex Counties, Virginia, 1655-1900, page 172]
His mother remarried by 1687, and his half-sister was born Aug-1688.
William's half-sister:
Elizabeth Morris, daughter of Edward and Elizabeth Morris, was born 5 Aug 1688. [, Virginia, Births and Christenings, 1853-1917]
Ref: supporting documents, in the profiles of his parents


William Elder and Ann
Married about 1711, based on birth of 1st known child Elizabeth (b.1712)
William Elder and Ann, are named in their children's christening records.
Ref: section for Children, further down on this page.
William Elder and Ann, are named in a Deed Abstract in 1753.
Ref: section of Land Transactions, further down on this page.
I have NOT found any evidence for 2nd marriage of either William or Ann.


Ann, wife of William Elder
Maiden name: unknown
Possible maiden name (per various genealogies): Wheeler, Travers, or Cole
The Will of William Elder shows a wife Ann, and children’s christening records show mother Ann or Anne, but I am unable to locate any document with Ann's maiden name, or any indication that William had more than one marriage.
None of the various maiden names have documented sources, or any explanation as to why these maiden names have been associated with Ann, the wife of William Elder.

The OTHER William and Ann

NOT to be CONFUSED with William Elder and Ann Wheeler, of MARYLAND.
This other couple was living in Maryland, and are a bit younger than "our" William and Ann. This other couple is also too young to have children the age of "our" William and Ann.
Reference the OTHER family in Maryland: William Elder and Ann Wheeler


The children of "our" William Elder and Ann/Anne are recorded in VIRGINIA, at the North Farnham Parish Register, with their Christening date as shown below. []
Elizabeth Elder, born 4 Sep 1712
Peter Elder, born 21 May 1715
William Elder, born 8 Oct 1717
Sarah Elder, born 18 Jul 1718
Thomas Elder, born 11 Nov 1721
John Elder, born 23 Nov 1723
Edmund Elder, born 21 Aug 1727
Charles Elder, born 30 May 1729
Joseph Elder, born 6 Sep 1731
Mary Ann and Winnefred Elder, born 7 Sep 1733
All of the above children are listed in the Will of William Elder.
Ephraim Elder is not in the parish register, so his birthday is unknown, but he is listed is the Will of William Elder.
Assume Ephraim is youngest child since he is the last child listed in the Will, which places Ephraim's birth birth on/after 1734.
Ruth Elder, born 19 May 1730, is another possible daughter, although she is not listed in the Will of William Elder. The North Farnham Parish Register shows Ruth's parents to be John Elder and Anne, but it has been suggested by various genealogies that her father is actually William Elder, since there is not a John Elder of correct age to be father of Ruth.
[Reference additional information in the individual profiles of each child]


William Elder - WILL

Richmond County, Virginia, Will Book 6, pages 58-59 dated 24 Apr 1754, proved 3 Feb 1755
In the Name of God amen I William Elder of North Farnham Parish in the County of Richmond being in a weak and low state of Body but of a perfect disposing mind and memory and well knowing that Death is that Tribute we must all pay, therefore in order to a more perfect Resignation to the will of my lord and blessed Saviour, I dispose of that Estate which it hath pleased God to bless me with in this life in the following manner viz. —
I bequeath to each of my following Children Elizabeth Glasscock, Peter Elder, William Elder, Sarah Elder and Ann Elder five Shillings to them respectively within Eighteen months after my decease. —

I give & bequeath to my son John Elder one bed and furniture. —
I devise to my son Thomas Elder and his heirs forever two hundred acres of Land being part of a patent of four hundred acres lying in Dinwiddie County whereon he now liveth. —

I devise to my son Edmund Elder and Joseph Elder and to their heirs forever Equally to be Divided between them the remainder of the sd. Tract of Four hundred acres lying in the said County of Dinwiddie two hundred acres of which was before devised to my son Thomas Elder. —

I bequeath to my son Ephraim Elder my negro boy named Robin. —

I Give my negro boy to my son Joseph Elder called Tommy. —

I bequeath my Negro boy named Rollo to my Daughter Maryann. —

I devise to my son Charles Elder & the heirs of his body lawfully to begotten the land and appurtenances whereon I now live And upon failure of such Issue, I devise the said Land with the appurtenances to my son Ephraim Elder & his heirs forever. —

I devise the use of my negro woman Kate to my loving wife Ann Elder during her natural life, And the Child with whom the sd. Negro Woman at present goes with I devise when born to my Daughter Winnefred, And my desire is that the said Child be kept with its mother till it shall be two years of age, unless my said Daughter shall incline to take it sooner. And the said Negro woman Kate I devise after my said wifes decease to my son Charles Elder to remain on the Plantation & Land to him devised. —

I bequeath the use of my personal Estate after my debts paid to my said Wife During her natural life And after her decease I bequeath what shall be then remaining thereof to my Children, Charles Elder, Ephraim Elder, Maryann Elder & Winnifred Elder to be Equally Divided between them. —

Lastly I nominate & Constitute my said wife & my said son Charles Elder Execx. and Execr. of this my last will & Testament, hereby revoking & annulling all wills heretofore by me made. —

Sign’d Sealed publish’d & declar’d this 24th day of April 1754. —
In presence of John Woodbridge, JoshuaStone, James Forrester J his mark
William Elder [his WE mark] seale
At a Court Held for Richmond County the third day of February 1755. —

This will was presented in Court by Charles Elder and Ann Elder the Executors therein Named who made Oath thereto according to law, and being proved by the Oaths of John Woodbridge Gent. Joshua Stone and James Forrester Witnesses thereto was admitted to record, And on the motion of the said Executors Giving Security a Certificate is granted them for obtaining a probate thereof in due form —
Test T. Tarpley
Source: Microfilm Roll 23 - Will Book No. 6, 1753 - 1767 (Richmond County, Virginia) — Library of Virginia


1711: Deed Abstract: William Elder, land purchase
Deed Book 5, 1708–1711, Richmond County, Virginia, pages 319-322
Microfilm Reel 2 (Richmond County, Virginia) – Library of Virginia
Grantor: James Suggett and Frances his wife of North Farnham Parish in Richmond County
Grantee: William Elder of the same county and parish; for the lives of him, Edmund Morris and John Morris, “the longest liver of them”
Date: 17 February 1710 (1711)
Terms: 5000 pounds of tobacco paid by William Elder, and “for diverse other causes and considerations”
Description: 56 acres more or less in North Farnham Parish in Richmond County “near unto the land of said William Elder being part of a tract ... of land containing three hundred acres formerly belonging unto Thomas Bayly of the parish and county aforesaid deceased, and the said Thomas Bayly bequeathing the said land by his last will and testament unto his five children to be equally divided: which said fifty six acres being the fifth ... proportionable share of Frances, wife of the said James Suggett, as by a survey made in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and four...” Bounded beginning at a pohickory at the head of a branch of Farnham Creek running from thence North and be East 110 poles West and be North 110 poles to a swamp called Web’s Swamp West 19 degrees South 26 poles West 46 degrees South 61 poles South 54 degrees East 70 poles, to the place where it first began”
Witnesses: Deed: Joshua Hightower, Thomas Wood (his mark T), and John Dalton Suggett’s Bond: Richard Bramham and Gabriel Alloway
Signatures: Signed and Sealed by James Suggett and Frances Suggett (her mark F)
Date Recorded: 2 May 1711, M. Beckwith C.C.
1721: Deed Abstract: William Elder, land purchase
Deed Book 8, 1720–1733, Richmond County, Virginia, pages 17–19;
Microfilm Reel 4 (Richmond County, Virginia) – Library of Virginia
Grantor: Thomas Geffry of North Farnham Parish in Richmond County
Grantee: William Elder of the same county and parish
Date: 24 February 1720 (1721)
Terms: Five Shillings Sterling (lease); 3000 pounds of good tobacco in cask (release)
Description: 55 acres in North Farnham Parish in Richmond County; “being part of 450 acres of land formerly granted to Henry Willson by patent bearing date the 15th day of June 1664 and by the said Wilson assigned over to Edward Geffry the first day of October 1677, and by the said Edward Geffry assigned over to his son Thomas Geffry ... beginning at a corner marked pohickory standing near the side of a small Indian field, and adjoining to the land of Mr. Thomas Griffin as far as a small branch thence extending along between the said branch and the first mentioned line of the aforesaid patent, running due South as far as will contain just 55 acres of land.”
Witnesses: William Forrester, Charles Lovelace, and Thomas Bryant
Signature: Signed and Sealed by Thomas Geffery
Date Recorded: 1 March 1720 (1721), M. Beckwith C.C.
In 1744, William Elder is on the Rental Rolls of Richmond County, Virginia, documented in the Virginia Early Census Index. [1]
1746: Patent Abstract: William Elder, land purchase:
Land Office Patents No. 24, 1745–1746, pages 444–445;
Microfilm Reel 22 – Library of Virginia.
Patenter: William Elder
Date: 25 September 1746
Terms: 40 shillings
Description: 400 acres in the County of Prince George (now Dinwiddie) on both sides of the Reedy Branch of Butterwood Swamp; “beginning at William Poythress’s corner red oak thence West two degrees North two hundred and forty seven poles to a corner pine thence North eleven degrees West two hundred and forty five poles to a corner white oak thence East by South three hundred and seventy four poles to Poythress’s line thence along the same South twenty two degrees West one hundred and ninety one poles to the beginning.”
Signed: William Gooch
1753: Deed Abstract: William & Ann Elder, land sale
Deed Book 11, 1750–1757, Richmond County, Virginia, pages 181-183;
Microfilm Reel 6 – Richmond County, Virginia – Library of Virginia
Grantor: William Elder and Ann his wife of North Farnham in Richmond County
Grantee: William Jones
Date: 1 March 1753
Terms: 20 pounds current money of Virginia
Description: 50 acres on the north side of Farnham Creek; “joining on the land and plantation now in the possession of William Baker and Job Hammond”.
Witnesses: John Durham, Charles Dodson, Joshua Stone, Thos Durham and Charles Elder
Signatures: Signed and Sealed by William Elder and Ann Elder (her mark X)
Date Recorded: 5 March 1753, T. Tarpley CC


  1. Virginia, U.S., Compiled Census and Census Substitutes Index, 1607-1890, for William Elder.

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Elder-289 and Elder-3 appear to represent the same person because: Dates, locations, & relationships are similar

Appears to be duplicated

posted by Abigail (Clark) Sylvia
I posted the following question on G2G. If there is no helpful response within 3 days, I believe the name should be changed and the merge of the two Anns should be completed.

"Willian Elder is shown with two wives: Ann Wheeter (Wheeler-1) and Ann Elizabeth Cole (Cole-2836). The Will of William Elder shows a wife Ann, but there apparently is no document with her maiden name, or any indication that William had more than one marriage. One profile shows that Ann died in 1775, neither profile gives a source for much of anything.

"Does anyone have any source for the maiden name of Ann Elder? Does anyone have any source showing that William married two different Anns? If not, her last name at birth will be changed to Unknown, and the two profiles will be merged."

posted by Vic Watt
The mother connection here looks fine, Elizabeth Presley b. 1666, but the father is the wrong generation, Peter Elder b. 1590. So I am going to correct him to Peter Elder, b. 1654.
posted by Steven Mix

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