Ikwesens (Montagnaise) Pinesikijikokwe
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Ikwesens Binisi Okipikokive Pinesikijikokwe (Montagnaise) Pinesikijikokwe (abt. 1779 - 1844)

Ikwesens Binisi Okipikokive Pinesikijikokwe "Marie" Pinesikijikokwe formerly Montagnaise
Born about in Temiscaming, Témiscaming, Témiscamingue, Quebec, Canadamap
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married 1817 in Northwest Territoriesmap
Descendants descendants
Mother of , , , , , , , and
Died at about age 65 in Gatineau, Quebec, Canadamap
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Contents

Biography

Research Notes

Marie (Ikwessens) Pinesikijikokwe (abt.1779-1844) (Ikwessens-1) and Ikwesens Binisi Okipikokive (Montagnaise) McPherson (abt.1795-1844) (Montagnaise-2) have been proposed as a merge. There is a question as to what her name actually is and if the difference in birth date and name means that (Montagnaise-2) is possibly a second wife to Andrew McPherson.

Both profiles agree on the English name of Marie and that she was the wife of Andrew McPherson.

(Montagnaise-2) has as a source, a delayed birth record from FamilySearch. It is dated January 18th, 1844. Marie's name is written as Marie Pinesi-Okijikokwe and names her as the spouse of Andrew McPherson. The record swears that her age is 65, confirming her birth date as 1779. This alone suggests that the creator of (Montagnaise-2) intended this profile to be Marie Pinisi-Okijikokwe and supports the case for a merge.

The second page of the document contains a burial record for Marie which again names her as Marie Pinesi-Okijikokwe. The record is in French and reads as follows:

Le vingt Janvier mil huit cent quarante quatre par nous prêtre soussigné a été inhumé dans le cimitière ... Ste Marie le corps de Marie Pinesi Okijikokwe épouse d'André McPherson ?commis d l'Honorable compagnie du Nord-Ouest, décédé le jour précedent à l'âge de soixante cinq ans.

Translated by E. Martin E Martin , it reads;

  • On January 20, one thousand eight hundred and forty-four, by Us, the undersigned Priest was buried in the cemetery of Lac Ste Marie the body of Marie Pinesi Okijikokwe, wife of André McPherson, clerk of the Honorable North West Company, who died on the day previous at the age of sixty-five. Witnesses François Xavier Neau and Joseph Fournier, who declared that they did not know how to sign.

The following Research Notes looks at Marie's name from both profiles. It may help to determine what her name was. Or at least what is historically correct.

Is the word "Ikwesens" part of Marie's actual name or has it been confused with her accepted gender? In Ojibwe Ikwesens translates as Girl(s)

The words Pinesi and Binisi are close in meaning, perhaps interchangeable? - both are translated from Ojibwe as Giant Bird or Thunderbird.

The word Montagnaise used in (Montagnaise-2)'s name is confusing. But these websites show that it is more likely a reference to the people she belonged to. Certainly in all the articles/sources found so far have never included Montagnaise as part of her name.

Montagnais was the French name given to one Community. It means Mountain People or Mountaineer. Native speakers prefer to be called Innu (man, person).

(Montagnaise-2) used the word Okipikokive which is likely a misspelling of Marie's family name of Okijikokwe.The information from the Bonnechere Algonquin First Nations source listed below, refers to Marie as Marie Pinisi-okijikokwe. In the Master List referenced in those notes there are other people listed with the same family name of Okijikokwe.

Sources that mention Marie's name

This website, Bonnechere Algonquin First Nation, has a draft Master List of Approved Algonquin Ancestors dated October 2013. Pinisi Okijikokwe, Margaurite Marie is on the list. ANR decision March 20, 2012.

This Publication names Marie as "Marie Pinesi Okijikokwe Ikwessens."

This website from the Metis Nation of Canada ( https://mnoc.ca/english/who-we-are/metis-ancestors/) has the name of Andrew McPherson in a list of "Confirmed and documented ancestral Métis lineages of our Citizens" as follows;

  • 1805, Andrew McPherson & Ikssens (Indian), Témiscamingue

What the date refers to is not specified - marriage perhaps as they list Marie as "Ikssens (Indian)"

The book Bois-Brules: The Untold Story of the Metis of Western Quebec names Marie as Marie Pinesi-okojokokwe.

    • Michel Bouchard, Sebastien Malette and Guillaume Marcotte, "Bois-Brules: The Untold Story of the Metis of Western Quebec", Source: Google Books, Publisher: UBC Press, 2020, ISBN: 0774862351, 9780774862356, online publication, accessed 2021-12-22, Metis of the Gatineau Valley, Squatters and Free Traders of Lac-Sainte-Marie, Marie Pinesi-okijikokwe, pg 138, Bois-Brules

The Articles published below, names Marie as Marie Pinesi Okijikokwe (or Ikwesens), "probably' an Algonquin from Abitibi'

Research on Abitibi

Burley-204 23:30, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Marie spoke Ojibwe. It is not known whether she spoke English. Andrew was fluent in Ojibwe.

Research Notes

Marie (Ikwessens) Pinesikijikokwe (abt.1779-1844) (Ikwessens-1) and Ikwesens Binisi Okipikokive (Montagnaise) McPherson (abt.1795-1844) (Montagnaise-2) have been proposed as a merge. There is a question as to what her name actually is and if the difference in birth date and name means that (Montagnaise-2) is possibly a second wife to Andrew McPherson.

Both profiles agree on the English name of Marie and that she was the wife of Andrew McPherson.

(Montagnaise-2) has as a source, a delayed birth record from FamilySearch. It is dated January 18th, 1844. Marie's name is written as Marie Pinesi-Okijikokwe and names her as the spouse of Andrew McPherson. The record swears that her age is 65, confirming her birth date as 1779. This alone suggests that the creator of (Montagnaise-2) intended this profile to be Marie Pinisi-Okijikokwe and supports the case for a merge.

The second page of the document contains a burial record for Marie which again names her as Marie Pinesi-Okijikokwe. The record is in French and reads as follows:

Le vingt Janvier mil huit cent quarante quatre par nous prêtre soussigné a été inhumé dans le cimitière ... Ste Marie le corps de Marie Pinesi Okijikokwe épouse d'André McPherson ?commis d l'Honorable compagnie du Nord-Ouest, décédé le jour précedent à l'âge de soixante cinq ans.

Translated by E. Martin E Martin , it reads;

  • On January 20, one thousand eight hundred and forty-four, by Us, the undersigned Priest was buried in the cemetery of Lac Ste Marie the body of Marie Pinesi Okijikokwe, wife of André McPherson, clerk of the Honorable North West Company, who died on the day previous at the age of sixty-five. Witnesses François Xavier Neau and Joseph Fournier, who declared that they did not know how to sign.

The following Research Notes looks at Marie's name from both profiles. It may help to determine what her name was. Or at least what is historically correct.

Is the word "Ikwesens" part of Marie's actual name or has it been confused with her accepted gender? In Ojibwe Ikwesens translates as Girl(s)

The words Pinesi and Binisi are close in meaning, perhaps interchangeable? - both are translated from Ojibwe as Giant Bird or Thunderbird.

The word Montagnaise used in (Montagnaise-2)'s name is confusing. But these websites show that it is more likely a reference to the people she belonged to. Certainly in all the articles/sources found so far have never included Montagnaise as part of her name.

Montagnais was the French name given to one Community. It means Mountain People or Mountineer. Native speakers prefer to be called Innu (man, person).

(Montagnaise-2) used the word Okipikokive which is likely a misspelling of Marie's family name of Okijikokwe.The information from the Bonnechere Algonquin First Nations source listed below, refers to Marie as Marie Pinisi-okijikokwe. In the Master List referenced in those notes there are other people listed with the same family name of Okijikokwe.

Sources that mention Marie's name

This website (Bonnechere Algonquin First Nation, https://bafn.ca/) has a draft Master List of Approved Algonquin Ancestors dated October 2013. Pinisi Okijikokwe, Margaurite Marie is on the list. ANR decision March 20, 2012. *https://bafn.ca/CLEAN%20October%2010,%202013%20MASTER%20Schedule%2

This Publication names Marie as "Marie Pinesi Okijikokwe Ikwessens."

This website from the Metis Nation of Canada ( https://mnoc.ca/english/who-we-are/metis-ancestors/) has the name of Andrew McPherson in a list of "Confirmed and documented ancestral Métis lineages of our Citizens" as follows;

  • 1805, Andrew McPherson & Ikssens (Indian), Témiscamingue

What the date refers to is not specified - marriage perhaps as they list Marie as "Ikssens (Indian)"

The book Bois-Brules: The Untold Story of the Metis of Western Quebec names Marie as Marie Pinesi-okojokokwe.

    • Michel Bouchard, Sebastien Malette and Guillaume Marcotte, "Bois-Brules: The Untold Story of the Metis of Western Quebec", Source: Google Books, Publisher: UBC Press, 2020, ISBN: 0774862351, 9780774862356, online publication, accessed 2021-12-22, Metis of the Gatineau Valley, Squatters and Free Traders of Lac-Sainte-Marie, Marie Pinesi-okijikokwe, pg 138, Bois-Brules

The Articles published below,names Marie as Marie Pinesi Okijikokwe (or Ikwesens), "probably' an Algonquin from Abitibi'

Research on Abitibi

Burley-204 23:30, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Sources


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John Leclair
I'm a descendant. I speak French and understand some Cree and Anishnaabek. These people were all illiterate back then. The clergy wrote what they heard. She's the same woman. A relative would not have her Indigenous name. It's not a family name. Anishnaabe (Ojibwe) and Crees have often been mistaken for one another mainly because of the shared language group Algonkin. Montagnais (Innu) are found north of the St Lawrence past Quebec City. Marie was from Upper Gatineau, north of Ottawa along the Ontario border.
posted by John Leclair
Fiscus-32 Julie (Fiscus) Ricketts
There is an unmerged match pending on this profile and a merge pending for her daughter, Elizabeth. There are too many differences in how her names are entered for me to feel comfortable working on it.

Sunny, would you have some time to work on this?

Thanks!

Julie

posted by Julie (Fiscus) Ricketts
Trimbee-2 Sunny (Trimbee) Clark
Maybe next week. Thanks, Julie.
posted by Sunny (Trimbee) Clark
Trimbee-2 Sunny (Trimbee) Clark
It's still on the pile here, Julie
posted by Sunny (Trimbee) Clark
Trimbee-2 Sunny (Trimbee) Clark
Orphaning profile in the hope that another has more time to research it.
posted by Sunny (Trimbee) Clark
Burley-204 Lorraine (Burley) Nagle
Montagnaise-2 and Ikwessens-1 are not ready to be merged because: The birth name of Marie needs to be determined before a merge can proceed.
posted on Ikwessens-1 (merged) by Lorraine (Burley) Nagle
Fiscus-32 Julie (Fiscus) Ricketts
Montagnaise-2 and Ikwessens-1 appear to represent the same person because: These appear to be duplicate profiles for the same wife of Andrew Macpherson/Mcpherson ... which surname is correct?
posted on Ikwessens-1 (merged) by Julie (Fiscus) Ricketts

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