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Pyers Mostyn MP (bef. 1500 - 1580)

Pyers Mostyn MP aka ap Richard ap Hywel
Born before in Flintshire, Walesmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married [date unknown] in Flintshire, Walesmap
Descendants descendants
Died after age 80 in Talacre, Llanasa, Flintshire, Walesmap
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Biography

Pirs was born before 1500. He passed away about 1540. [1] Also Known As: "Piers Mostyn", "Peter ap Richard ap Hywel", "Piers" Birthdate: circa 1516 (64) Death: February 02, 1580 (60-68) Immediate Family: Son of Richard ap Hywel, of Mostyn and Catherine Salusbury Husband of Ellen Griffith. See Peter Bartrum, http://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/5234/MARCHUDD%206%28B4%29_1268.png?sequence=7&isAllowed=y (April 8, 2017; Anne Brannen, curator)

HOP Biography: https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1509-1558/member/mostyn-peter-1518-80

Will of Piers Moston of Talacre, Flintshire. 1580: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D964384

Family and Education b. by 1518, 3rd s. of Richard ap Hywel ap Ieuan of Mostyn, Flints. and Gloddaeth, Caern., by Catherine, da. of Thomas Salusbury of Lleweni, Denb. m. Ellen, da. of Thomas Gruffydd of Pant-y-Llongddu, Flints., 7s. 6da.1

Offices Held

J.p. Flints. 1543, 1555, q. 1558/59-64; escheator 1545-6; sheriff 1552-3; commr. subsidy 1546, relief 1550, lunacy c.1565, Caerwys eisteddfod 1568.2

Biography Of ancient Welsh descent, the Mostyn family acquired its home and its name by marriage in the early 15th century. Its long association with the House of Lancaster was maintained by Peter Mostyn’s father, a distant cousin of Henry Tudor, who came in secret to Mostyn while preparing his invasion of England. After Bosworth, to which Richard ap Hywel brought a force of 1,600 colliers, the new King gave him the sword and belt worn in the battle. Henry VII was a frequent visitor to Mostyn Hall, but when he asked Richard ap Hywel to come to court he received the reply, ‘I dwell among my own people’.3

Peter ap Richard ap Hywel, as he was generally known until later life, did not share in the Mostyn inheritance but he did have some (unknown) lands settled on him by his father in 1539, probably when he married, which may have formed the nucleus of the estate at Talacre. A dispute with his eldest brother Thomas over the performance of their father’s will was settled by arbitration in March 1540. In the previous August he had received lands in the town of Flint by charter from a burgess there; in 1541 he acquired lands at Holywell and elsewhere, formerly of the dissolved abbey of Basingwerk; and in 1544 he received a grant of the manor of Penbedw, Denbighshire, for £73. He was assessed for subsidy in 1545 at £33 6s.8d. on lands, a figure which put him among the wealthier men of the shire. [2] [3] [4] According to the History of the Family of Mostyn of Mostyn , 1925 , compiled by the 3rd baron Mostyn and T. Allen Glenn , the land upon which the present Mostyn Hall stands ‘was acquired about five centuries ago by the marriage of IEUAN FYCHAN (d. 1457 ) , of Pengwern , Llangollen (and Tre Castell , Anglesey ), with ANGHARAD daughter and heiress of HYWEL (or Howel ) , son of TUDUR AP ITHEL FYCHAN , and, according to N.L.W. MS. 1557 , widow of Edward Stanley .’ For how long this land had belonged to Hywel 's ancestors the authors do not know, but they surmise that it formed part of the territory of Hywel 's ancestor, Edwin of Tegeingl (see under Owain ab Edwin ). In 1301 ITHEL FYCHAN did homage and fealty to prince Edward , as earl of Chester , for his Flintshire estates. ‘ Hywel and his descendants, for the most part, held the lordship of Mostyn by lease until Sir Roger Mostyn (below) in the year 1631 secured possession of it in perpetuity.’ The Pengwern (Denbighshire) estate , the birthplace of Ieuan Fychan , was the original home of this family; it has since been alienated. Gloddaeth, Caerns. , came to the family shortly before 1460 through the marriage of HYWEL AP IEUAN FYCHAN (of Mostyn and Pengwern ) with Margaret , heiress of Madog Gloddaeth ( high sheriff of Caernarvonshire , 1325/6 ), and, as will be seen, Bodysgallen , in Caernarvonshire , was also a Mostyn house. [5] The Mostyn lineage originated from a place called Pengwern not far from Llangollen. Via a series of highly successful medieval marriage alliances to a number of heiresses this family gradually acquired five courts and their associated landed powerbases which were scattered throughout the counties of north Wales. Thus, Pengwern in Denbighshire was joined to Mostyn in Flintshire, Trecastell and Tregarnedd in Anglesey and Gloddaith in Caernarfonshire. Thomas ap Richard ap Hywel (c.1490-1558) was the first member of the family to inherit all five of the courts on the death of his father in 1540. The courts provided him and his successors with a large, distinctive and enduring landed interest across north Wales which provided the foundation for the family’s power and influence for centuries. [6] The High Sheriff is the oldest secular office under the Crown. Formerly the High Sheriff was the principal law enforcement officer in the county but over the centuries most of the responsibilities associated with the post have been transferred elsewhere or are now defunct, so that its functions are now largely ceremonial. The High Sheriff changes every March. The shrievalty of Flintshire, together with that of Denbighshire, was abolished in 1974 when the county and shrievalty of Clwyd was created. [7]

"Richard ap Hywel, by his wife Catherine, daughter of Thomas Salusbury, the elder, of Lleweni, was the father of Thomas (Mostyn), Hugh (died young), Peter (Peyrs, Piers), ancestor of the Mostyn family of Talacre, and four daughters, of whom Janet became the wife of Gruffydd ap Ieuan ap Llywelyn Fychan."[8]

Research Notes

  • Search Results from Historical Records

No records found for Name: Pirs Mostyn, Event: Birth, Place: Flintshire, Wales, Event Range: 1498-1502, Event: Death, Place: Flintshire, Wales, Event Range: 1538-1542, Spouse Name: Ellen Griffith (https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3APirs~%20%2Bsurname%3AMostyn~%20%2Bbirth_place%3A%22Flintshire%2C%20Wales%22~%20%2Bdeath_place%3A%22Flintshire%2C%20Wales%22~%20%2Bspouse_givenname%3AEllen~%20%2Bspouse_surname%3AGriffith~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1498-1502~%20%2Bdeath_year%3A1538-1542~)

Sources

  1. http://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/5234/MARCHUDD%206%28B4%29_1268.png?sequence=7&isAllowed=y]
  2. https://www.geni.com/people/Pirs-Mostyn-MP/6000000020720197008
  3. https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Mostyn,_Flintshire,_Wales_Genealogy
  4. https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Pirs_Mostyn_(1)
  5. http://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s-MOST-MOS-1301.html
  6. http://www.mostynestates.co.uk/the-five-courts-and-the-making-of-the-mostyn-family-1540/
  7. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Sheriff_of_Flintshire
  8. Dictionary of Welsh Biography:

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Since he was born before Wales was incorporated into England in the mid 1530's, wouldn't his real LNAB be his Welsh patronymic name, ap Hywel?
posted by Jack Day
Mostyn-141 and Mostyn-153 do not represent the same person because: system glitch; need to reject and then repropose.
posted on Mostyn-153 (merged) by Darlene (Athey) Athey-Hill
Mostyn-153 and Mostyn-141 appear to represent the same person because: apparent duplicates. From the Dictionary of Welsh Biography: "Richard ap Hywel, by his wife Catherine, daughter of Thomas Salusbury, the elder, of Lleweni, was the father of Thomas (Mostyn), Hugh (died young), Peter (Peyrs, Piers), ancestor of the Mostyn family of Talacre, and four daughters, of whom Janet became the wife of Gruffydd ap Ieuan ap Llywelyn Fychan."