Mabel (Mucegros) Lisle

Born [date unknown] in Charlton, Somerset, England

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Descendants

Died after 17 May 1271 in Nedging, Suffolk, England

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Biography

Mabel Mucegros was a member of the aristocracy in England.

Mabel first married Hervey de Stafford.^[1] They had no issue.^[1] He was dead in 1242.

In 1245 either she, or another daughter of Robert de Muscegros whose name is unknown, married Geoffrey Daumbley. It does not appear likely that this daughter of Robert de Muscegros was the mother of Geoffrey's heiress Eleanor.^[2] The exact date of Geoffrey's decease is unknown, but it was probably around 1250-1255.^[3]

By 1252 she had married Robert Lisle, son and heir of Robert de Lisle by Alice daughter of Henry FitzGerald.^[1] We know this because in this year the Close Rolls show that a widow of the Daumbley family named Isabella left the corn from her dower land to "Mabel the wife of Robert de Insula".

Robert and Mabel had one son, Warin, who was their heir.^[1]

Mabel was living 17 May 1271.^[1]

Robert de Lisle married a second wife named Alice.^[1] He died in 1284, and his widow Alice was living in 1290.^[1]

Research notes

In favour of Mabel being the wife of Geoffrey:^[2]

• The 1255 Close Rolls show that Mabille de Aumbely, "daughter of Roberti de Muscegros" asked the king for pardons of various people in Suffolk who are evidently associated with the Amblie manors such as Elmsett and Somersham. (This would mean that Mabel was being referred to for this case by the surname of her deceased husband.)^[4]

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6} Richardson, Royal Ancestry (2013) Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2013), volume III, page 581 #3
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1} Andrew Lancaster and Todd Farmerie, SGM discussion "Possible William Malet (Magna Carta) descent via Bathonia and Bohun?" https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/RMlfDPE28_0
3. ↑ See William Farrer, Honors and Knights' Fees, Vol. 3, p. 177. [Available for example on Familysearch.]
4. ↑ 'Close Rolls, November 1255', in Calendar of Close Rolls, Henry III: Volume 9, 1254-1256, ed. A E Stamp (London, 1931), pp. 234-244. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/cal-close-rolls/hen3/vol9/pp234-244 [accessed 19 February 2023]. Also available on Familysearch website.

Other websites

• Our Royal, Titled, Noble and Commoner Ancestors & Cousins database online, compiled by Mr. Marlyn Lewis, follows Douglas Richardson's Magna Carta Ancestry. It includes Magna Carta Surety Barons and many of their descendants. Mabel de Muscegros
• Source S167 Title: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R) Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998. Ancestral File Number: N2CW-WB (Alt Birth Place: Charlton Musgrove, Wincanton, Somerset)