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John Pinder (abt. 1627 - aft. 1707)

John Pinder aka Pindar
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Husband of — married before 16 Aug 1658 in Ipswich, Essex, Massachusettsmap
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Died after after about age 80 in Ipswich, Essex, Massachusetts Bay Colonymap
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Biography

John Pinder immigrated to New England as a child during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640).

John Pinder was born about 1627, son of Henry and Mary (Rogers) Pinder. He may have been born in Cambridge, England as that is the location of his parents marriage and the baptisms of several of his siblings. [1]

John, aged 8, his mother Mary Pinder, aged 53 and his sisters, Frances aged 20, Marie/Mary aged 17, Joanna aged 14, Anna aged 12, Katherin aged 10, emigrated to New England on the Susan & Ellin being enrolled at London as passengers in 1635. [2] [1] [3]

1647: March 30, 1647: John Fowler was fined by the courts for striking John Pinder 'on the Sabbath day'. His mother, Goody Pinder was among the witnesses. [4][1]

He married by 1658 (birth of child) Elizabeth Wilson.[5][1] She was the daughter of Theophilus Wilson, who mentioned his son Thomas, grandchild Elizabeth Lovel, grandchild Elizabeth Russell, grandchild Thomas Pinder, and named sons John Pinder and David Fiske as executors in his 1690 will.[6] It has been suggested that she was the Elizabeth Pinder who died in 1671,[5] but since John had a son in 1678 and there is no indication that John remarried, it was probably Elizabeth, the second wife of Henry, who died in 1671.

In March 1661 "John Pindar was released from ordinary training, paying 5s yearly to the use of the company."[7] No reason for this is given in the record. He was only 34 at the time. A John Pinder was paid for his service in King Phillip's War: 15s 8d August 24, 1676 under Captain Thomas Brattle and £5.0.0 September 23 1676 under Capt. Henchman.[8] This might be John Pinder Jr., who was about 17 at the time, but the "Society of Colonial Wars" has accepted application through this John.[9]

John was mentioned in the Essex Quarterly Court records, but many of the references do not point to a sterling character.

In 1660, John was fined 5li for cutting a mare. Testimony was given:[7]

Samuell Graves, aged about thirty-eight years, testified that John Pinder, jr., told him and one of his children that he wished deponent's house and all he had would burn, and that his father wished so too. Deponent found a match lying near the groundsel of his barn with the burned end touching the hay, and he had often told said Pinder of his naughty tricks and he would reply " You lye, Graves." Deponent had also heard him go along the street muttering and threatening his children, hogs and fowls, saying that he would knock them in the head. Said Graves had several fowls knocked in the head, lying in Pinder's yard, his pigs wounded and a shoat of three quarters old stabbed with a pitchfork. Deponent had often told Pinder's father of his tricks, but he would not believe it, and also had heard him use the devil in his mouth often times ; deponent's wife had heard him speak profanely and take God's name in vain in such words as were not fit to be spoken.[7]
Samuell V___ deposed that John Pindar repeated to him what Thomas Wilson would testify against him, and denied that he said what Wilson claimed. Finder told him that he did say if Tho. Wilsones mare was in the place where the other was, he could cut her, etc.[7]

May 1664, Stephen Godwin escaped from prison. Several people were charged with aiding and abetting including "Thomas Tredwell, jr., Nathaniell Tredwell and John Pindar," who were admonished "for concealing the prisoner."[10]

14 Nov 1667 John Pindar Jr., for high offenses was sent to the house of corrections for a fortnight and punished. John Pindar, his father, was bound for his good behavior, and to be fined 20 li unless he put him out to some honest person approved by the magistrates of Ipswich.[8] Apparently, he "put" his son to an approved person, for in March 1668 he was discharged from his bond for good behavior.[11]

Nov 1670, John sued "Hanry Russell and Francis, his wife; for slander by his wife and son Henry."[11]

Before 1674, Joseph Jewitt bought 3 acres from John Pindar, which Joseph's children inherited in 1674.[12]

28 March 1676, Presentments in court. "Goodman Pinder of Ipswich, for marking sheep not his own.[13]

May 1680, "John Pinder was found guilty of stealing hay, and as he had long been about such business, he was to be seriously admonished." Testimony on the following pages indicate that it was the father John and that the stealing went back at least 28 years. John claimed when asked that the hay came from his father-in-law, Wilson. John Jr. was mentioned as having been involved in theft later.[14]

13 March 1687/8 Theophilus Wilson of Ipswich, sold to John Pinder of Ipswich about 17 acres on the north side of Ipswich River in the great common field, for the price of £70.[15]

In December 1699 and January 1699/1700, John Pinder, of Ipswich, gave his property in Ipswich to his sons. To son, Thomas, he gave land for parental affection and for his future maintenance.[16] John Pinder, husbandman, sold to "Jonathan Pinder Carpenter & Theophilus Pinder weaver sonns unto ye aforesaid John Pinder & of ye same Towne …" about 26 acres of meadow "on the norwest side of ye River".[17] To son, Simon, he gave his house, barn, land, etc., for parental affection and for consideration of what is expected of Simon hereafter.[18]

Since John gave his property away in 1699 and early 1700, it is entirely possible that he was the John Pinder whose administration was granted to Joseph Hunt on 29 January 1700/1, about a year later.[19] However, on 22 November 1707, Joseph Pinder and Simon Pinder, both yeomen of Ipswich, sold about four and a half acres of land on Plumb Island to Thomas Perrin. "John Pinder father of Said Thomas and Simon fully & freely Yeild & Surrender all That Right That he had or might Claime to have in Said ... acres. The wives of Thomas (Elizabeth) and Simon (Hannah) also agreed to the sale. Thomas Pinder, Simon Pinder and John Pinder each signed the deed by mark. [20]

Children (order unknown)

  • Elizabeth born on August 16, 1658; married John Lovel at Ipswich on September 12, 1689 [21]; died after April, 1723 when she administered the rest of the grandfather's estate.[22]
  • John. His birth was not registered, but he is mentioned in the Essex court records as John PInder Jr. in association with his father John Pinder.[14]
  • Thomas born on August 26, 1665; probably died December 3, 1729.[21]
  • Jonathan, no record of his birth, but his father gave "Jonathan Pinder Carpenter & Theophilus Pinder weaver sonns" about 26 acres in Ipswich on 10 Jan 1699/1700.[23]
  • Simon, no birth record. His father gave him a house, barn, land etc. 13 January 1699/1700.[24]
  • Theophilus born on June 28, 1678.[21]

Ipswich Vital Record Notes

Ipswich Births

Pindar, Elisabeth, d. John, Aug. 16, 1658. CTR (V. 1 p. 294)
Pindar, Thomas, s. John, Aug. 26, 1665. CTR (V. 1 p. 295)
Pinder, Theophilas, s. John, June 28, 1678. CTR (V. 1 p. 295)

Ipswich Marriages

PInder, Elizabeth, and John Lovel, Sept. 12, 1689. (V. 2 p. 347)

Ipswich Deaths

Pinder, Thomas, Dec. 3, 1729. (V. 2 p. 649)
Pinder, Elizabeth, May 29, 1671. (V. 2 p. 649) [21] Probably not John's wife Elizabeth

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 Anderson, Robert C. Henry Pinder in: Great Migration: Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume V, M-P, New England Historic Genealogical Society, Boston, Massachusetts, 2007 p. 466-8. (Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2010.)
  2. Hotten: James C. The Original Lists of Persons of Quality; Emigrants; Religious Exiles; Political Rebels; Serving Men sold for a term of years; apprentices; children stolen; maidens pressed; and others who went from Great Britain to the American Plantations, 1600-1700 : with their ages and the names of the ships in which they embarked, and other interesting particulars; from mss. preserved in the State Paper Department of Her Majesty's Public Record Office, England, London, England, 1874. p. 59: 107
  3. Threlfall, John B. The English Home of Henry Pinder of Ipswich in: The American Genealogist,, Volume 52, D. L. Jacobus, New Haven, Connecticut, 1976 p. 175 (Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2009 - .)
  4. Essex Antiquarian, Volume 8, Salem, Massachusetts, 1904, p. 19 (Online database: AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2006.)
  5. 5.0 5.1 Wilcox, Doris Schreiber. Massachusetts Descendants of the Rev. Thomas Wilson, Author of the Pilgrims' Christian Dictionarie: Theophilus Wilson, Martha (Wilson) Bachelor, Mary (Wilson) Treadwell, and Their Nephew Samuel Taylor in: The New England Historical and Genealogical Register, Volume 163, New England Historic Genealogical Society, Boston, Massachusetts, 2009, p. 12 (Online database: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2001-2018.) https://www.americanancestors.org/DB202/i/11728/12/143381249
  6. Essex County, Massachusetts, probate Records and indexes 1638-1916 vol. 304, Old series Book 4 & index. 1683-1692 p. 294, 295; FHS Film # 007704243 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9YR-HL4N?i=247&cat=412735
  7. 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 Dow, George Francis, Records and Files of the Quarterly Courts of Essex County Massachusetts, Volume II 1656-1662 pp. 197, 248, 280. (1912)
  8. Bodge, George M., Soldiers in King Philip's war. Containing Lists of the Soldiers of Massachusetts Colony, Who Served in the Indian war of 1675-1677. ... (Boston, Printed for the author, 1891), p. 14, p. 220
  9. General Society of Colonial Wars Membership Applications, 1893-1949. (Online database: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2023). link AmericanAncestors by subscription
  10. Dow, George Francis, Records and Files of the Quarterly Courts of Essex County Massachusetts, Volume III 1662-1667, pp. 153, 453 (1913)
  11. 11.0 11.1 Dow, George Francis, Records and Files of the Quarterly Courts of Essex County Massachusetts, Volume IV 1668-1671, pp. 11, 324, (1914)
  12. Dow, George Francis, Records and Files of the Quarterly Courts of Essex County Massachusetts, Volume V 1672-1674 pp. 135, 391, (1917).
  13. Dow, George Francis, Records and Files of the Quarterly Courts of Essex County Massachusetts, Volume VI 1675-1678 (1917), p. 138.
  14. 14.0 14.1 Dow, George Francis, Records and Files of the Quarterly Courts of Essex County Massachusetts, Volume VII 1678-1680 (1919), pp. 379, 380.
  15. Essex County, Massachusetts, Deeds Vol 8, 1687-1691, p. 97/252; "Massachusetts Land Records, 1620-1986," images, FamilySearch, (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9ZZ-BBM4?cc=2106411&wc=MCBG-S38%3A361613201%2C361853901 : 22 May 2014), image 182 of 721;
  16. Essex County, Massachusetts, Deeds, Vol 13, 1698-1700, p 212; "Massachusetts Land Records, 1620-1986," images, FamilySearch, Film # 007462658 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9ZZ-BJK8?cc=2106411&wc=MCBG-3P8%3A361613201%2C361858101 : 22 May 2014), Essex > Deeds 1697-1700 vol 12-13 > image 427 of 538; county courthouses and offices, Massachusetts.
  17. Essex County, Massachusetts, Deeds, Vol 13, 1698-1700, p 216; "Massachusetts Land Records, 1620-1986," images, FamilySearch, (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9ZZ-BKC3?cc=2106411&wc=MCBG-3P8%3A361613201%2C361858101 : 22 May 2014), Essex > Deeds 1697-1700 vol 12-13 > image 431 of 538; county courthouses and offices, Massachusetts.
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  19. Essex County Probate Records, Old Series : Probate records, vols. 307-308, Book 7-8, 1699-1705, Book 307, pp 132, 149,; Family Search, Film 875125, (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9YY-L9SN-Y?i=78&cat=412735 : accessed January 2024) and (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9YY-L9SZ-5?i=138&cat=412735 : accessed January 2024)
  20. Essex County, Massachusetts, Deeds, Vol 26 p. 270; "Massachusetts Land Records, 1620-1986," images, FamilySearch, Film # 007462663 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9ZZ-BVTG?cc=2106411&wc=MCBG-S27%3A361613201%2C361869101 : 22 May 2014), Essex > Deeds 1712-1716 vol 25-27 > image 573 of 876; county courthouses and offices, Massachusetts.
  21. 21.0 21.1 21.2 21.3 Vital Records of Ipswich, Massachusetts to the End of the Year 1849, The Essex Institute, Salem, Massachusetts, 1910
  22. Case 30150: p. 1-7: Essex County, MA: Probate File Papers, 1638-1881, Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2014. (From records supplied by the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court Archives.) link by Subscription AmericanAncestors
  23. Essex County, Massachusetts, Deeds, Vol 13, 1698-1700, p 216; "Massachusetts Land Records, 1620-1986," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9ZZ-BKC3?cc=2106411&wc=MCBG-3P8%3A361613201%2C361858101 : 22 May 2014), Essex > Deeds 1697-1700 vol 12-13 > image 431 of 538; county courthouses and offices, Massachusetts.
  24. Essex County, Massachusetts, Deeds, Vol 18, 1699-1706, p. 64; "Massachusetts Land Records, 1620-1986," images, FamilySearch, Film # 007462660 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9ZZ-19K4?cc=2106411&wc=MCBG-QP8%3A361613201%2C361861701 : 22 May 2014), Essex > Deeds 1701-1706 vol 16-18 > image 468 of 646; county courthouses and offices, Massachusetts.
  • U.S., New England Marriages Prior to 1700 for John Pindar-http://interactive.ancestry.com/3824/gpc_newenglandmarriages-0603/63306?backurl=http://person.ancestry.com/tree/19245941/person/1962800122/facts/citation/74534000798/edit/record
  • BIRTH: No birth/chr rec found. John is identified with other family members, including proved children of Henry Pinder, on the passenger list of the "Susan & Ellen" from London to New England, Apr/May 1635 (Peter Wilson Coldham, THE COMPLETE BOOK OF EMIGRANTS, 1607-1660 [Baltimore, 1987], 137-38 [FHL #973 W2col]). He was listed as 8 years old.
  • MARRIAGE: No marriage rec found. The will of Theophilus Wilson of Ipswich, 3 Oct 1690, proved 31 Mar 1691, calls John Pinder "my son" and makes Thomas Pinder a grandson (Essex Co. Probate, [o.s.] 304:294 [FHL #860486]). John's wife was almost certainly the Elizabeth Pinder who testified in the case of John Gammage for "railing, scurrilous speeches" toward Theophilus Wilson in 1685 (RECORDS AND FILES OF THE QUARTERLY COURT OF ESSEX COUNTY, 9 vols. [Salem, MA, 1911-75], 9:598-99 [FHL #974.45 P2e]).
  • DEATH: No death rec found. Case 21992 :p. 1-7: Essex County, MA: Probate File Papers, 1638-1881, .Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2014. (From records supplied by the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court Archives.)
  • Hammatt, Abraham,. The Hammatt papers ... : the early inhabitants of Ipswich, Mass., 1633-1700. Ipswich, Mass.: Press Ipswich antiquarian papers, A. Caldwell, A.W. Dow, 1880, p. 265




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This person immigrated to New England between 1621-1640 as a Minor Child (under age 21 at time of immigration) of a Puritan Great Migration immigrant who is profiled in Robert Charles Anderson's Great Migration Directory (or is otherwise accepted by the Puritan Great Migration (PGM) Project).

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posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
The John Pinder whose estate was administered by John Hunt in January 1700/01 was another, younger, John (probably either son or grandson of this John), as the inventory mentions 'Wages Reced of ye. Country for his service as soulder in ye Country service' and 'Wages still Remaining due from ye Country'. The John who married Elizabeth Wilson would then have been about seventy-three years old.

John disposed of the bulk of his estate and planned for his future maintenance in deeds of gift dated 2 December 1699 and 13 January 1699/00 to sons Thomas and Simon. (Essex Deeds, Vols. XIII, p. 212, and XVIII, p. 64)

22 November 1707, Thomas Pinder and Simon Pinder of Ipswich, yeomen, sell to Thomas Perrin of Ipswich a tract of salt marsh ground and pine land with the pines thereupon at Plum Island containing four acres and a half. 'John Pinder father of said Thomas and Simon fully & freely Yeild & Surrender all That Right That he had or might Claime to have in said four acres & half of Marsh And Elizabeth wife of said Thomas & Hannah wife of said Simon freely consent', etc. Ack. by all 29 April 1709. (Essex Deeds, Vol. XXVI, p. 270)

[John also had a son Jonathan as shown by deed to sons Jonathan and Theophilus dated 10 January 1699/00. (Essex Deeds, Vols. XIII, 216)]

posted by Patrick Griffith
edited by Patrick Griffith
Alternate record states: b. 1627 England, d. 12 Jun 1724 at Oyster River, Strafford, NH - (this needs research)
posted by Patricia (Long) Kent