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Thomas (Urswick) Urswyck (abt. 1375 - abt. 1443)

Thomas Urswyck formerly Urswick
Born about in Lancashire, Englandmap
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Died about at about age 68 in Lancashire, Englandmap
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Profile last modified | Created 28 Jan 2011
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Disputed Mother

Thomas Urswyck was the second son of Robert Urswyck, by his second wife Ellen, widow of Sir John Dalton.[1] (Thomas did not inherit Upper Rawcliffe, which came to the Urswicks through Robert's first wife and on to the daughters of his elder son, Thomas's half-brother Robert.)

Internet genealogists have mistakenly assumed that Thomas's father's second wife Ellen was Ellen Radcliffe: "There is a marriage recorded between Robert Urswick and Ellen, daughter of Richd. Radclyffe, dated 12th July, 18 Richard II (1394), but this probably refers to the other Robert of the same period, who filled various offices in company with his brother Walter and one of the Radclyffs, as foresters of Bowland."[2] It seems more likely, in light of Thomas Urswyck's killing his "kinsman" Radclyffe in self-defense (per Roskell's History of Parliament), that Ellen Radcliffe was Thomas Urswick's sister-in-law, wife of his brother Robert.

Biography

Thomas Urswyck "probably died soon after relinquishing all his appointments in November 1443, when he was already in possession of a papal indult for the plenary remission of sins at the hour of death. He had at least one son, Robert, married to Katherine Haryngton, and it is possible that the Thomas Urswyk† (d.1479), who became chief baron of the Exchequer at Westminster after a distinguished career in the employment of the duchy of Lancaster, was another one of his children."

Source

  1. "URSWYK, Thomas, of Tatham, Lancs. and Badsworth, Yorks; in The History of Parliament: the House of Commons 1386-1421, ed. J.S. Roskell, L. Clark, C. Rawcliffe., 1993.
  2. Thomas Augustus Urwick and William Urwick,Records of the Family of Urswyk, Urswick, Or Urwick (1893), p. 22. This author appeared to miss the possibility that this was the marriage of Thomas's brother Robert (rather than his father Robert).




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Birth date of 1375 is 8 years after the birth date of his daughter Ellen in 1367
posted by Andrew Hill
Probable grand daughter: Urswick-18
posted by Andrew Lancaster
It is now 4-2-2019 and the circumstances mentioned by Cheryl (Messenger) Cantrell still exist. The dates can't be accurate.
posted by Harry Kelly
A birth year of 1375 for Thomas is not possible, assuming the birth year of 1367 for his daughter, Ellen, is correct. In addition, it is unlikely he was 30 years younger than his wife, Joan, whose birth year is 1345.
I have added a "disputed mother" section; his mother should probably be detached. Ellen Radcliffe could have been his father's second wife, or wife of a different Robert Urswick.
posted by [Living Schmeeckle]
Parent birthdates are after Thomas' birthdate. Parentage or date error.
posted by Abby Smith

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