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Philip Noland (abt. 1685 - 1733)

Philip Noland
Born about in Stafford County, Virginiamap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married about 1715 [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 48 in Prince William County, Virginiamap [uncertain]
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Biography

Philip (sometimes Phillip) was the son of Pierce and Katherine Noland. He married Bridget and they had five children.[1]

He married Bridgett around 1715.[2]

Philip died in Prince William County in 1733. His heirs were recorded in a land sale:[3]

  • Peter and wife Ann
  • Philip and Elizabeth
  • Pierce and Sary
  • Paul and
  • Mary.

Wife Bridgett

General agreement that his wife's name was Bridget, and the consensus is that she was a Carrol (Carroll-5188). Elizabeth Noland, his sister, is said to have married Nicholas Carroll.

Prince William County records (page 48) include "Philip Nolands Estate, [? Acct or deced] aft 1733."[4] On page 49:

In a court held for Prince William County on 18 June 1735, "Bridget Noland presented into Court this Account against the Estate of Philip Noland Decd which was read and she making Oath thereto the Same was allowed and ordered to be Recorded."[4]

Son Philip

J. Lynn Noland, in Milesian Mountaineers (p 102), discusses that because Pierce and Katherine's son Philip appears in Maryland records by 1692, the immigrant Philip may not have been a brother of the immigrant Pierce (Noland-67), but his oldest son: if adult by 1692, Philip was born before 1671 (although that makes Pierce and Katherine parents at about age 15, according to their birth dates in WikiTree). If born before his father immigrated (believed to be between 1675 and 1680, possibly landing first in Canada, and found in Maryland records in 1686), then he could be the Philip recorded as landing in Maryland in 1677 (currently shown as Pierce's brother, son of Pierce Sr, and shown by some researchers to have married Bridget Nelson).

J. Lynn Noland surmises that Philip was of age in 1692, stating "This probability is based upon the assumption that his mother would not resort to a legal document to give a calf to a minor." (p 102)

1692-1693 court records in Charles County, Maryland establish that Philip is the son of Katherine, who is wife of Pierce Noland, tailor, of Charles County:[5]

"Other Charles County documents (Liber S.No. 1, pp. 53-54, dated March 14, 1692) indicate that Pierce Noland's wife was name 'Katherine'. Again these are court records which show that 'Thomas Lewgar, late of Charles County, laborer, and Katherine Noeland, wife of Pierce Noeland, Taylor. . . .accused of stealing'. Lewgar was convicted and 'Katherine Noeland' was found not guilty." . . .
""A recorded sale dated October 19, 1692 shows that Lewgar . . . is selling 'to Ketherine Noeland. . . .one red heirfer with a star in her forehead'. A January 30, 1693 entry state 'which said heifer Catherine do assign over to her son Philip Noland to him and his heir'.31"
[31] "Ibid, p. 237" — Ibid being
28. Gray, op.cit. p. 233 (also Ronshiem "1954 Text" p. 3) — op.cit. being
26. Violet Noland Gray, Robert Beheathland, Gentlemen [sic] One of the Founders of James Town, 1607, and his descendents, [sic], Gateway Press, Inc., (Baltimore 1978) - p. 249

Charles County, Maryland

WikiTree has (as of 11 November 2019) two categories for Charles County, Maryland. One from 1776 to present (Charles County, Maryland) and one from 1658-1776 (Charles County, Province of Maryland). The Charles County established in 1658 is, for the most part, the one that exists today[6][7]There was, however, an earlier Charles County - formed from St. Mary's County in 1650 and abolished in 1654.[8] Based on the dates, it is likely the Nolands were in the Charles County formed in 1658 from Potomac County, which borders Virginia, rather than the Charles County that existed for less than 5 years, which did not.[8]

Disputed Information

Birth
- in Ireland by 1671[9]
- in Maryland (his father is found in Cecil County, 1686, and Charles County, 1692[10])[11]
- in Stafford County, Virginia in 1684.[12][13]
- in Stafford County in 1685[14]
Mother
- Katherine (unknown) (generally accepted by most Noland resarchers)[5]
- Elizabeth Darrell[14][15]
- Katherine Hagaman, married 1680[12]

Research Notes

DNA: For this profile, I believe triangulation is required for "Confirmation by DNA" (see Help:DNA_Confirmation for specifics).

David Roberds posted DNA information to this profile 2 February 2021 (see this G2G discussion about the original posting). I compared his DNA and my Dad's (using GEDmatch) :
  • Comparing Kit A166357 (David Roberds) [Migration - F2 - A] and Kit T479362 (Henry Peyton Noland) [Migration - F2 - F]
  • with the result: "No shared DNA segments found".
David's post included the information that Philip Noland and Bridget Carroll were his and "dormills1 his eighth cousin"'s most recent common ancestors: "Predicted relationship from AncestryDNA: 5th-8th Cousins, based on sharing 11 cM across 1 segments."
Hilliards: "it appears Hilliard Y may actually be Noland Y" (private correspondence with Robert Moore, 2019).
"My guess at this point is that Pierce or his brother, Thomas... or one of their sons, may have had an illegitimate son with a Hillyard woman. I do know that Thomas and a Hillyard family both lived in Anne Arundel County, Maryland at the same time, in the 1600s." ~ Robert Moore, August 2019
UPDATE 8/27/2019 (posted on William Noland's profile): Based on Y DNA results of Kenny Hilliard, it is possible Amos Hillyard (1760-1850) was an illegitimate son of William Noland of Berkeley County, (W) Virginia. His closest Y match is a descendant of William Noland, and is a genetic distance of 3. Kenny also matches four other descendants of Pierce Noland, one at a genetic distance of 7, and three at a genetic distance of 8. In addition to the Y DNA matches, Kenny Hilliard also shows strong autosomal DNA matches, with the most significant matches on Chromosome 3 (the longest cM being 28.16, and matching 7,700 SNPs).
Both Hilliard test-takers are "the Hillyard/Hilliard line in the Shenandoah Valley [which] is definitely Noland." ~ Robert Moore, Jan. 2020
William Noland (Noland-143): Henry Noland's DNA (FTDNA yDNA test) matched with yDNA from someone descended from William Noland, son of Pierce, born ca 1628 in Ireland.

Sources

  1. from Noland family papers- maiden names of mother and wife not known. Sharon Winslet had Bridget Carroll; Kathi Golden had Katherine Hagaman
  2. Kathi Golden added guess of 1717; I changed it to 1715 based on Noland family papers that show their son Peter Noland born 1715.
  3. entered by Sharon Winsatt:
    • Fairfax County VA Deed Book B Page 334 - record of sale of land of Philip Noland's land by his heirs. Peter and wife Ann, Philip and Elizabeth, Pierce and Sary, Paul and Mary.
  4. 4.0 4.1 Found among my father's records was a copy of the 1735 account. ~ Liz Shifflett, 28 November 2023
  5. 5.0 5.1 J. Lynn Noland, Milesian Mountaineers (Mountaineer Graphics : 1986), pages 94-96
  6. See the Wikipedia article for Charles County (accessed 20 November 2019).
  7. Between 1658 and today, Charles County lost some territory to Prince George's County. See the Maryland Formation Maps (1695, 1696, 1748).
  8. 8.0 8.1 See Maryland Formation Maps (1650, 1658).
  9. if adult by 1692, he would have been born by 1671, before his father immigrated ("There is even the possibility that this Philip Noland is the same Philip Noland who is recorded as landing in Maryland in 1677." ~ J. Lynn Noland, p 102)
  10. J. Lynn Noland, p 98
  11. if born after his father immigrated
  12. 12.0 12.1 added by Kathi Golden, source not noted, but may be information for a different Philip
  13. Geni: Phillip Noland (no sources)
  14. 14.0 14.1 Find A Grave: Memorial #42048121 for Philip Noland, "Burial: Unknown". Memorial created by David Roberds Sep 17, 2009. Also cited by Ancestry:
    • Global, Find A Grave Index for Burials at Sea and other Select Burial Locations, 1300s-Current. Record for Philip Noland. Ancestry link
  15. family records of Liz Shifflett (chart compiled by H.P. Noland, her father, in 1997), shows Elizabeth Darrell as married to this Philip's brother (Pierce). See also
    • p 115, "The Randolph Manuscript. Virginia Seventeenth Century Records (Continued)" The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, Vol. 17, No. 2 (Apr., 1909), pp. 113-132. (Virginia Historical Society). Stable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/4242972
    • Elizabeth Darrell (born c1700), Colonial Settlers database online, daughter of Sampson Darrell, wife of Pearce Noland b 1696, Charles County, Maryland
See also the following sources, entered by Sharon Winsatt, but which may not pertain to this Philip:
  • 1761 Census
  • Rent Rolls 1761 Loudon County VA Philip and Peter named.
  • Ancestry.com, Virginia, Compiled Census and Census Substitutes Index, 1607-1890 (Provo, UT, USA, Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 1999), Ancestry.com, Record for Phillip Nowland. [1]




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The wonderful book by Beth Mitchell, "Beginning at a White Oak" has a map showing the location of Phillip's land in Fairfax County. 189 acres were granted to him on 14 Oct 1728. The land was located below what is now Alexandria. I don't understand if it is the same land as the 248 acres sold by Philip's children on 13 Nov 1744 to Willoughby Newton. The children selling were Peter, Philip, Pearce, Paul, and Mary, all of Fairfax County. Noland 588 (cousins of my line)
posted by Linda (Noland) Layman
update - edited info in DNA section under research notes; removed the info from Bridget's profile

please see https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1180931/paternal-relationship-confirmed-with-two-people ... the same DNA info was posted on Bridget's profile.

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
edited by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
there were two "Charles County, Maryland" ...

Charles County was created in 1658 by an Order in Council. There was also an earlier Charles County from 1650 to 1653, sometimes referred to in historic documents as Old Charles County.[3][4][5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_County,_Maryland

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
source does say Charles County, Maryland, but WikiTree is saying the county didn't exist in 1692-93 & Maryland Formation Maps lists it as a "Discontinued" County:

Charles County, Maryland... Formed in 1650 from part of Saint Mary's County. Abolished in 1654.

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Noland-987 and Noland-120 appear to represent the same person because: same dates (close enough)/locations/parents. Please merge. Thanks!
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Henry Noland's DNA (FTDNA yDNA test) matched with yDNA from someone descended from William Noland (Noland-143), son of Pierce, born ca 1628 in Ireland.
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Second issue - I tend toward the Carroll spelling, but Sharon, I seem to recall that you had Caroll as how she spelled it? I'm ok with either, so long as they're merged (but I didn't propose a merge, not knowing which way y'all might decide). Cheers, Liz
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Philip now has two sons named Peter listed. They're both duplicates, but should be merged into the Peter not listed as a son: Peter Noland-109. (the merges are pending)
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett