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Geertjen Janse (Rosa) Roosa (abt. 1680 - aft. 1721)

Geertjen Janse (Geertjen) Roosa formerly Rosa aka Roos, Crispell
Born about in Hurley, Ulster County, Province of New Yorkmap
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Wife of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
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Died after after about age 41 in Hurley, Ulster County, Province of New Yorkmap
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Geertjen (Rosa) Roosa was a New Netherland Descendant 1674-1776.
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Biography

Jan Crispell, baptized June 21, 1674, married on May 25, 1701, Geertjen Jane Roosa, probably a daughter of Jan and Hillegond (Van Buren) Roosa.[1]

Geertjen was probably born sometime between 1675 and 1680. This is a period where many baptism records are missing from the Kingston register.

Geertje Janss Roos married Jan Crupel in the Reformed Dutch Church of Kingston, New York, on 25 May 1701. Both were born in Hurley and living in Hurley. It was the first marriage for both. [2]

Children

Children of Jan Crispell and Geertje Roos were (all baptisms recorded in Kingston unless indicated otherwise):

  1. Marytje, baptized on 15 March 1702. [3]
  2. Hillegond, born 1704. Baptism not recorded.[4]
  3. Rebecca, baptized on 17 March 1706.[5]
  4. Antonie, baptized on 12 October 1707. [6]
  5. Helena, baptized 7 May 1710. [7]
  6. Jan, baptized on 21 September 1712. [8]
  7. Rebekka, baptized 7 April 1717. [9]
  8. Petrus, baptized 24 January 1720. [10]
  9. Zara, baptized 26 November 1726. [11]

Church Records

Marriage
  • 1701. 25 May. Jan Crupel, j. m., and Geerje Janss Roos, j. d., both parties born and resid. in Horle (Hurley). Banns published, but dates not given.[2]
Baptismal witness (in Reformed Dutch Church at Kingston)

Research Notes

  • Rosa is the surname recorded for Geurt's father at her baptism. [21]

Sources

  1. Van Benthuysen, Alvin Seaward, and Edith McIntosh Hall. The Van Benthuysen Genealogy (Wilson Engraving and Printing Co., Clay Center, Kansas, 1953). page 458
  2. 2.0 2.1 Hoes, page 517, entry 173.
  3. Hoes: p 64, entry 1297.
    1702 Mar 15, baptism of Marytje. Parents: Jan Crispel & Geertje Roos. Witnesses: Antoni Crispel, Mary Slegt.
  4. Evans, page 86
  5. Hoes: p 76, entry 1548.
    1706 Mar 17, baptism of Rebecca. Parents: Jan Crispyn & Geertie Roos. Witnesses: Huybert Zuydland, Rebecca Roos.
  6. Hoes: p 81, entry 1663.
    1707 Oct 12, baptism of Antonie. Parents: Jan Crispel & Geertie Roos. Witnesses: Gysbert Roos, Sara Crispel.
  7. Hoes: p 89, entry 1830.
    1710 May 7, baptism of Helena. Parents: Jan Krispel & Geertje Rosa. Witnesses: Andries Bradt, Wyntje Rosa.
  8. Hoes: p 99, entry 2069.
    1712 Sep 21, baptism of Jan. Parents: Jan Chrispel & Geertjen Roosa. Witnesses: Niclaas Hofman, Jannetjen Chrispel.
  9. Hoes: p 118, entry 2485.
    1717 Apr 7, baptism of Rebekka. Parents: Jan Chrispel & Geertjen Roosa. Witnesses: Huybert Zuyland, Rebekka Roosa.
  10. Hoes: p 130, entry 2742.
    1720 Jan 24, baptism of Petrus. Parents: Jan Chrispel & Geertjen Roosa. Witnesses: Jan Van Deusen, Hillegontjen Roosa.
  11. Hoes: p 138, entry 2931.
    1721 Nov 26, baptism of Zara. Parents: Jan Chrispel & Geertjen Roosa. Witnesses: Aldert Jansz Roosa, Rebekka Schepmoes.
  12. Hoes: p 99, entry 2071.
    1712 Oct 5, baptism of Geertjen. Parents: Gysbert Rosa & Grietjen Bond. Witnesses: Jan Chrispel, Geertjen Rosa.
  13. Hoes: p 112, entry 2349.
    1715 Dec 4, baptism of Hillegond. Parents: Jacobus Van Etten & Rebekka Roos. Witnesses: Jan Chrispel, Geertjen Roos.
  14. Hoes: p 158, entry 3376.
    1725 Sep 5, baptism of Hillegond. Parents: Aldert Roosa & Rebekka Schepmoes. Witnesses: Jan Chrispel, Geertjen Roosa.
  15. Hoes: p 167, entry 3578.
    1727 Mar 12, baptism of Zara. Parents: Abraham Van Wagening & Hillegond Chrispel. Witnesses: Jan Chrispel, Geertjen Roosa.
  16. Hoes: p 196, entry 4216.
    1733 Jul 1, baptism of Geertjen. Parents: Dirk van Vliet & Marytjen Chrispel. Witnesses: Jan Chrispel, Geertjen Roosa.
  17. Hoes: p 197, entry 4241.
    1733 Jul 22, baptism of Jan by Domine Petrus Vas, of Kingston. Parents: Theunis van Steenbergen & Lena Chrispel. Witnesses: Jan Chrispel, Geertjen Roosa.
  18. Hoes: p 220, entry 4665.
    1736 Oct 3, baptism of Geertjen. Parents: Anthony Chrispel jr & Catrina van Benthuysen. Witnesses: Jan Chrispel, Geertjen Roosa.
  19. Hoes: p 228, entry 4819.
    1737 Sep 11, baptism of Geertjen. Parents: Dirk van Vliet & Marytjen Chrispel. Witnesses: Jan Chrispel, Geertjen Roosa.
  20. Hoes: p 255, entry 5333.
    1741 Aug 16, baptism of Jan by Domine Vas. Parents: Jan Chrispen jr & Zara Jansz. Witnesses: Jan Chrispel, Geertjen Roosa.
  21. Quackenbush-118 05:45, 12 June 2017 (EDT)

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Acknowledgements

  • This person was created on 14 September 2010 through the import of 124-DeCoursey.ged.
  • WikiTree profile Roosa-168 created through the import of davisfamilytree-1.ged on Sep 1, 2012 by Rich Davis.




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I have created a profile for Geurt that can be connected to parents Jan Alderts Roosa and Hillegond (Willems) van Boerum, and to spouse Magdalene DuBois. I have also cleaned up Geertjen's profile a bit and removed Geurt as one of her names.
posted by Richard Kyllo
Nice work, Richard. That conclusion makes sense. Geertje easily could have been born during a gap in the Kingston records.

From the history of this profile, it appears that Guert and Geertje's profiles were separate at one time, but got conflated together. Since this Rosa-301 profile is mostly about the woman, it might be easiest to retain it to represent Geertje, then create a new profile for her brother Guert/Geurt.

posted by Ellen Smith
There is nothing relevant from New Paltz. However, judging from the witnesses at the baptisms of Geertje's children it seems very likely that she was a sibling of Geurt (or possibly 1st cousin). With her marriage being in 1701 and husband Jan being born in 1674 I would guess that she was born during the 1670's where so many of the Kingston records are missing.
posted by Richard Kyllo
Ah, profile DuBois-571 names Magdalene's first husband as Gerrit. I foolishly assumed that name came from the records, when in fact it seems to be one of those names that was imputed by later generations (possibly assuming their ancestors had simply misspelled a name that's more familiar to modern ears). If her husband was recorded Guert, that adds support to the idea that he was the child baptized as Guert in 1683. Jan Roosa had a brother Guert who is supposed to have died young, which gives a reason to think that Jan would have named his 4th son Guert.
posted by Ellen Smith
Although now that I think of it, Guert had died before the move to Readington and Magdalene was with her second husband, so I doubt there will be much to find there. I'll check New Paltz though.
posted by Richard Kyllo
Thanks Ellen. I have already been through the Kingston and Minisink records and am working on Raritan/Readington (that Roosa family went to Readington rather than Minisink), but will check New Paltz also. The birth record of Elizabeth (Hoes #2058) gives the father as Guert Roos and mother as Madeleen du Boys, so it is clear that he used that form. I haven't found any records yet where he is called Gerrit but will keep looking for Guert/Gerrit/Geertje records.
posted by Richard Kyllo
Hmm... Apparently some researchers concluded that the child baptized as "Geurt" was actually Geertje. Recording mistakes like that did happen sometimes (and since the baptism records don't give the child's gender, we can't use gender as a check on the data). And Magdalene's husband was Gerrit -- also different from the name on the baptism record.

Richard, could you start a free-space page or a G2G to compile all of the findable church records and other sources for Roos(a) children from that time period (in Kingston and also Minisink and New Paltz) to see if we can find the missing boy or girl, find evidence to connect Gerrit and Geertje to their birth families, etc.? It's likely that one of these children's baptisms was unrecorded, but it's also possible that a record was overlooked.

posted by Ellen Smith
There is something wrong here. Geurt is a masculine form. This was a boy child, who became the 1st husband of Magdalene DuBois and is recorded as the father of Elizabeth Roos in 1712 (Hoes #2058).
posted by Richard Kyllo
Please don't remove Jannetje Crispel as a wife until we know how she got connected as a wife, thanks!

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