John
Thomas
III
Born in Westmoreland County, Colony of Virginia
Ancestors 
Son of John Thomas II
and Sarah Susannah (Porteous) Thomas
Brother of
Massey Thomas, Garvis Thomas, Benjamin Thomas, Richard Thomas, Mary Thomas, Margaret Thomas, Sarah Thomas and Ann Thomas
Husband of
Jemima (Powell) Derrick
— married
10 Aug 1741 in St. Paul's Parish, Stafford County, Colony of Virginia
Descendants 
Father of
Mary (Thomas) Allen and Mary (Thomas) Newton
Died
at age 78
in Madison County, Virginia, United States
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Biography
John Thomas was reportedly born April 16, 1715, in St Stephen's Parish, Northumberland county, Virginia, the son of John Thomas, and his wife, Susannah..[1] Some researchers identify this spouse as Susannah Portis, but the original source for that last name at birth is unclear.
He married the widow Jemima (Powell) Derrick at St. Paul's Parish, Stafford County, Colony of Virginia, on 10 August 1741.[2] John Thomas and Jemima reportedly had ten children together before she died in 1765.[citation needed]
John Thomas then reportedly married Elizabeth Miller and they had three children together.[citation needed]
He died on September 9, 1793, in Madison, Virginia, having lived a long life of 78 years, and was buried in Virginia.[citation needed]
Research Notes
Disputed Spouse
Some researchers confuse his wife Jemima (Powell) Derrick with her daughter, Jemima Derrick, who was a child a Jemima (Powell) Derrick from her first marriage. That younger Jemima Derrick was just two years old when her mother married John Thomas on 10 August 1741.
Disputed Origins
Some researchers identify his parents as Michael Thomas and Susannah Mosby (e.g., https://www.ancestry.com/genealogy/records/john-thomas-24-2hnglqv). This supposed John Thomas died September 9, 1793, in Madison county, Virginia. That John Thomas has a separate WikiTree profile here.
Sources
- ↑ Mike Marshall, "John Thomas," Early Colonial Settlers of Southern Maryland and Virginia's Northern Neck Counties, ( https://www.colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I50369&tree=Tree1 : accessed 9 Jun 2022).
- ↑ John Bailey Calvert Nicklin, comp., St. Paul's Parish Register (Stafford-King George Counties) 1715-1798, (Baltimore: Genealogical Book Co., 1962), 18; images, FamilySearch, FHL 1,036,122 item 5; DGS 7,832,652.
See also:
- Title: Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.; Repository: Ancestry.com
- Author: Yates Publishing Title: U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Publication: Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2004; Repository: Ancestry.com
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DNA Connections
It may be possible to confirm family relationships with John by comparing test results with other carriers of his Y-chromosome or his mother's mitochondrial DNA. However, there are no known yDNA or mtDNA test-takers in his direct paternal or maternal line. It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with John:
It may be possible to confirm family relationships with John by comparing test results with other carriers of his Y-chromosome or his mother's mitochondrial DNA. However, there are no known yDNA or mtDNA test-takers in his direct paternal or maternal line. It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with John:
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~0.78%
Leroy Kelly
:
AncestryDNA, GEDmatch 104280 [compare], Ancestry member carolk1997
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~0.78%
Paul Phillips :
AncestryDNA, GEDmatch FY8674253 [compare], Ancestry member PRMurphyinWA
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~0.39%
~1.56%
Emily Gillespie :
23andMe
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AncestryDNA, GEDmatch emmline [compare], Ancestry member emm_gillespie
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~0.39%
Barb (Lee) Buckley :
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AncestryDNA, GEDmatch SL8985737 [compare], Ancestry member bbuckley58
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MyHeritage DNA, GEDmatch DP1697691 [compare]
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~0.39%
Heather (Maxwell) Noto :
23andMe
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AncestryDNA, Ancestry member hnoto6
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~0.39%
James Shannon :
AncestryDNA, GEDmatch A693498 [compare], Ancestry member MikeNTex
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~0.39%
Keete Clark :
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~0.39%
L (Shellhart) S :
AncestryDNA, GEDmatch A361935 [compare], Ancestry member Lshellhart
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Categories: Virginia Colonists | Conflated Profiles
edited by Talmia (Slade) Burr
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John Thomas' wife is currently "Jemina (Derrick) Thomas" and should be Jemima (Powell) Derrick. Jemima Powell daughter of Richard Powell and his wife, Grace married 1) Edward Derrick and 2) John Thomas. https://www.colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I50368&tree=Tree1 They did not have a daughter Jemima Derrick (who is currently attached as the wife of her father. Additional information is found on the profile for Jemima Powell: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Powell-4710
There are no reliable sources cited on this profile, and Powell-4710 appears to be well-sourced to support these claims, so I am going to propose the merge of Derrick-209 into Powell-4710. If anyone objects, please weigh in.
Jemima Derrick: Source InformationDodd, Jordan. Virginia, U.S., Compiled Marriages, 1660-1800 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 1997. Original data: Dodd, Jordan, comp.. Virginia Marriages to 1800. Electronic transcription of marriage records held by the individual counties in Virginia.
Jemima Powell: Source Information Ancestry.com. Virginia, U.S., Select Marriages, 1785-1940 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc, 2014. Original data: Virginia, Marriages, 1785-1940. Salt Lake City, Utah: FamilySearch, 2013.
They are not the same people. They are mother and daughter.
The marriage records for Jemima Powell and Jemima Derrick in those Ancestry databases you are relying upon are both indexes of the St. Paul Parish registers transcribed in the following source:
John Bailey Calvert Nicklin, comp., St. Paul's Parish Register (Stafford-King George Counties) 1715-1798 (Baltimore: Genealogical Book Co., 1962), 18; FHL 1,036,122 item 5, DGS 7,832,652.
The marriages, births, and deaths of the Derrick family are reflected on p. 18, available online here.
That transcription of the St. Paul parish registers reflects the following chronology:
So if Derrick-209 is intended to represent Jemima, the daughter Edward Derrick & Jemima Powell, then the current unsourced birth date of "abt 1718" in her profile is incorrect. The parish register records that Jemima Derrick's birth on 6 Mar 1738/9. A birth in 1718 would be 10 years before her parents married on 2 Jan 1728/9.
The chronology from the parish register does, however, support the claim that the Jemima Derrick who married John Thomas on 10 August 1741 was Jemima Derrick, the widow of Edward Derrick. Edward died on 27 April 1741, leaving his wife Jemima a widow with at least four young children. A remarriage four months after Edward's death on 10 Aug 1741 is plausible. Unless there is a third Jemima Derrick in the area at this time, it seems clear that the Jemima Derrick who married John Thomas must be the widow of Edward.
Based on the parish register records, I would suggest that we leave Jemima Derrick (Derrick-209) in place as the daughter of Edward Derrick & Jemima Powell, but correct her birth date to 6 March 1738/9, citing the parish register. She should then be detached as the spouse of John Thomas, and her mother Jemima (Powell) Derrick, the widow of Edward (Powell-4710), should be substituted as the spouse of John Thomas. The children will need to be cleaned up too.
I am happy to take a first crack at these edits, and add the relevant sources from the parish register to all of the affected profiles, if everyone agrees.
edited by Scott McClain