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Susan, it wan't abducted by NASA, but by Lowe's. It'll probably take NASA to bring it back!

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Mindy, Hannahs for Lewins? I have enough headaches (and I've got some of those Hannah's, too!!) 

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I had to look up Reparational Genealogy. The Ancestors Alive Genealogy has some great stuff on that.  Is that Carolynn's site?

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Doug, our parts came about a week before the repairman showed up. I wouldn't dare try to do it on my own. I'm must not that mechanical.

Thanks for the link you sent earlier this week. That was very kind of you!

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Laurie, it was a normal thing for our ancestors to conspire against us! They just KNEW we'd be grinding our teeth and laughing about it.

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Peggy, you make me laugh. We have planted somewhere around 60 to 80 trees on our present property, because we thought this was our "toes-up" home. Not so!

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And Lowe's has gone into bankruptcy or Chapter 11 or some such if I recall but that started in Nov 2018 (51 USA stores) and now there's 34 Canadian stores and a bunch of RONA stores and ...

Or as is "always" the case when Corporate is in chaos, workers turn into ditzs and matters are left undone, overdone, underdone and utterly forgotten

Very likely your dream of a spanking hot ride-em law mower big enough to herd sheep and small enough to load into a Nissan pickup truck ... probably painted cherry red with racing stripes in the shape of flames ... fully padded seat to sit on ... along with a seat belt because the springs on this mower are sooooo good you need the belt to keep you ON the mower ... wow, we'd have LOVED to see a pix of THIS baby ...

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Sears has their own service. Lowe's contracts theirs out, so a repair place has ours in another town. Grr....

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Fix truck.....touch over 200yr old encylopedias. I wonder what I would get if I fixed a mower. Then test drove it over the entire property.

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The whole set as payment?

Answer 1

Here in New Jersey, the weather had been warm but a little variable. Early in the week, hot and humid, later not as hot and not humid. 80 and dry is much more comfortable than 90 and humid.

Our traveling plans have been changed by COVID. We had planned to camp in Pennsylvania next week, near my daughter's house and go to our granddaughter's horse show. But, that has been postponed til August. My daughter and her family have been camping in North Carolina and we have been advised to stay away for 14 days after they get home tomorrow. The horse show is still on with no spectators except immediate family.

Geneology front: I have been trying to finish up with a GEDCOM that I have from previous research. But there are a lot of living people on it that I don't have the vitals for, just the relationships. Not sure if I should add them and guess at BMD dates or ignore them for now.

I, also started linking and writing biographies for profiles with matching Family search records. Can be very confusing to be sure that the info is correct with sources. So I vacillate between adding profiles from my GEDCOM and updating profiles from Family search.

I like coming here and reading about everybody's life and commenting.

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Thanks for sharing Nancy, glad you stopped by the chat. So many people's plans have been changed the last several months. My relatives were coming in April but moved it to July thinking it would be over... WRONG!!   PS: they are still coming anyway. 

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Nancy, all of our travel plans have been postponed, too, much to our chagrin. We haven't seen our daughters since Mom's memorial service last January 4th. And, they only live about four hours away. Granted, one is a paramedic, so with all that's going on, we wouldn't likely see her even if we could travel.

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Nancy - our camping plans are also on hold. We really should take the RV out for its inspection that was due in April. I see from the RV forums I follow that lots more people are buying campers and parks are full on the weekends. We have reservations for a rally in October but it will be more than 600 people and we will probably cancel. We might get out for a week or so this summer to see some of the Blue Ridge Parkway south of us, maybe down near Pip.

I know what you mean about FamilySearch - I've been looking at the FamilySearch FamilyTree and some of those obviously have incorrect sources attached. Fortunately I have found an Ancestry Tree that seems to also have quite a few pictures obviously from a family collection so it's providing good clues.

Answer 2

I could have commented on every post.  So many good ones and so many things people are doing that interest me.  I love the chat....  great group of people here!   

Pip, thanks for hosting!  You do a wonderful job.   Congrats on getting the land and working toward a new home.  I understand living with boxes.    I have plenty of things like books, chandeliers, photos, office supplies, and who knows what is lurking...in a box....  I have boxes left from my 2 sons who have never decided to claim those treasures.   They tell me they are safe in our house...   I have boxes from my in law's house, boxes from my parents' house, boxes from my aunt's house, boxes from both my husband's stuff and my stuff and then our stuff.  A few weeks back I went through 5 moving boxes of recipe books and recipes and donated two boxes full.  Threw away a box full of duplicate recipe cards, newspaper feature recipes, or books that were falling apart.   I 3 versions of the Betty Crocker  cookbook binder that I consolidated down to one.  I ma trying to do 2 to 5 boxes a week.   Slowly we will get through all this and reclaim our basement and library where most of them are stored.  

Health wise I had a telemed appointment with my doctor.  Needless to say we talked a lot about how my son is and the corona virus.  I continue to stay home and rarely go out.  If I do I wear a mask.   It is not comfortable but it it necessary for our family.   

Genealogy. I have been very busy.  I have gone through all of my 1400 and 1500 profiles.  All are fully sourced, translated where necessary, and have their radio buttons set.  I am now working on 1500s that fall into 1600s and pure 1600s profiles.    I want to give some public thanks to Marcie Ruiz who has pitched in to work on my more modern family lines setting those radio buttons.  She has been a real trooper and a joy to work with.  I will be doing a more formal Wonder WikiTreer for her today.   Ales made available some new Data Doctor prompt for incomplete profiles.  These are not errors they are a tool so people can locate those profiles that need more tender loving care.  My suggestion list went from 1 or 2 up to over 11 thousand in one day.  I was in shock.  I posted a note to that effect in the Data Doctor Group Thread and Marcie offered to help me (I think my statement that I would be dead before I got through over 11k prompts sounded pretty desperate.  We are down to 9041 today so have fixed over 2000 in a week.  Team work!

I also have been working with several cousin lines on a number of different studies.  I am doing this with teams of cousins and it is a lot of fun.  I was able to send a book with information on one family that went back to the 1200s to a cousin in France.  Isabelle Martin leader of the French Project sent her my way and I discovered I had two copies of the book.  So I shipped one off to her.  It was a lot of fun to realize that we were cousins!   Isabelle also sent a young man to me and I was a cousin to him as well.  I was able to introduce him to another cousin who is writing a definitive book on the Stenger / Stanger line which shows that Solomon Stanger of Glassboro NJ was not from Germany.  He was from Wingen sur Moder in Alsace.  We have his birth and marriage records and those of his children that match the family that came here. So he was able to give the young man his direct line back to the 1400s.  

Cyber hugs to all of you!  Stay safe.   Take care of yourselves and those around you!   And let's hope this massive forecasted sandstorm sounds worse than it is!

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Hey, Laura! Thanks for the cyberhug! =D You know the Germany project is going to be the topic tomorrow for the Wikitree stream. Are you going to be there?

Yeah, Pip does a great job. But, I remember you made us cookies that one time. =D

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I am going to try to tune in.  Kylie I am sure will do a fabulous job!  She has really done a great job leading the project!

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Well, you can always catch the replay.

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Yes a great chat this weekend.

You sure have boxes and boxes! I have 3 of the Better Homes and Gardens cookbook. It is very interesting to see the changes in recipes between the 1950s, 1970s, and 1990s editions.

11K oh my. I guess I should go through my 1800s to help someone out in a few hundred years.

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Laura, you've been packing and getting rid of stuff for ages! I'd love to have some of your books, but I'm downsizing my library, too.

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When we moved here in 1994 it took a 14 foot truck just to move my books and magazines.    The books I am getting rid of are things like paperback mysteries, old almanacs, cook books (I donated 2 huge boxes of those).  We kept all the history.  I did get rid of historical fiction though.   Just need to make room.   Also I inherited a ton of romance novels and I donated all of those.

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Kay I never do anything part way.  If I am going to create suggestions,  I am going to create a lot of them it seems!

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Laura,what are "radio buttons" ?

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Slang for thoe little buttons that we select for uncertain, or exact / certain  before or after for dates.

The little clickable circle right below a field.

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Gotcha......what's a "field"....haha.....?

Answer 3

Just for fun: Lets see who is among the oldest here....

             

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I am a dinosaur...  I remember all 17....   sigh....

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I remember 15 and 2 halves:

Remember the chewing gum but not the teabury and

Can't remember what type of stoppers came on the milk deliveries in the 1950s

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All 17! Teaberry was my very favorite gum. And all the trouble I would get into listening on the party line...lots of gossip in our 84 person town, Keyport, Washington.

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My phone number 93F, on a party line, unlisted now........ used to ride my  bicycle home at quarter to five to listen to Superman on the radio.

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Oh Oh I older than ****,

I remember ALL of them

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Black and white world........?

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TV, you mean? Had one until 1970 when we got our first color one.

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Photos too.......don't remember,exactly,what year the world turned to color......just trying to help those born with color vision, after our time.......ever had a flathead engine ?

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My grandfather had a reproduction of a black and white snap shot picture done of me about 75 years ago.  It was hand colored and my mother provided a list of colors for my clothes.

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We viewed a colorized photo several days ago........curious about the method(s) used?

Answer 4

The trudge continuing to work on the offline non-wikitree tree is ongoing. Here is a super simplified breakdown on the changes I've noticed over the last 2 weeks since I commented on the subject.

Type	Previous	Current
Total profiles	893	1397
People matches	1833	5405
Source matches	1548	2853
DNA matches	6376	6424

I'm currently awaiting a response from an unconnected Wikitreer (it does appear that this person has been inactive for the last 6 years). Essentially this response would see this person get connected to the tree within a day (I had a message sometime ago regarding the parents of an ancestor I hadn't worked for a couple of years, and upon looking into the family in question I'd found one person who got connected due this effort, and this would see one more).

Continuing to scratch my head over apparent oddities, in this particular instance, the artist Victor Reinganum, apparently is known as Victor Edward Reinganum or Edward Victor Reinganum although from what I'm aware of it doesn't appear that Edward was used as either name. Was a little surprised to see that he is 5 degrees from French tennis player, Doris Metaxa and 8 degrees from the creator of the McVitie's digestive biscuit, Sir Alexander Grant.

Figured out that Claus was transported to Italy sometime during or after the September of 1805. Three questions arise from this piece of information: 1) How long was the recuperation period before he was able to move around? 2) When did he get married? 3) What is the name of his wife?

Comment	Person Name	Danish Generation in Italy
Danish researchers know very little about him due his settling in Italy	Claus Fabrin	1
Wife of Claus	Unknown (possibly Angela Frasson)	N/A
Son of Claus, birth date listed as 1806(extremely unlikely), 1808 and 1811	Giovanni Batista Fabrin	2
Son of Claus, birth date listed as 1815 and 1823	Giuseppe Fabrin	2
Son of Claus, birth date listed as 1816	Gaetano Fabrin	2
Son of Claus, birth date listed as 1818	Luigi Fabrin	2
Son of Claus, birth date listed as 1819	Sebastino Fabrin	2
Son of Claus, birth date listed as 1828 (ouch!)	Jose Fabrin	2

Only one of the spouses of these men is known for certain: Anna Baldissera (however there is a lot of disagreement on which of the brothers she married, some have suggested that she married Claus (which can't have happened considering her birth year of 1826 and Claus died 2 years later!). Two other identities are suspected for the missing wives but these are less certain (Domenica Fantinato and Maria Luison) But honestly right now, my main wish is to find source information which is a whole more reliable than the questionable (and doubtful yields from FamilySearch)

Other than that...
After more than a decade of calling one church home, hearing the call that it's time to more on and identifying where it is that I'm being directed to.
Gearing up for next week (2 funerals, one on Friday and the other on Saturday).

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Richard, you are a real digger for info. I admire that in you.

Church: I've been led, you'll be led.

Answer 5

I best start working on my mom's biography since she died in June. I don't believe she was ever gainfully employed as she married my dad just after finishing business school.  After he died, she did some of the church's bookkeeping (she was a trained bookkeeper) and helped out at the local hospital.

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And I need to work on my mom's, too, David. She died this past December.

Answer 6

 Today is meant for Surprise !! As is known we each have a Watchlist and each Sunday arcane things are done by computers under the command of Ales and out comes, among many things, Suggestions for the profiles we each manage .... 

Today, first ever, is Missing a mother's DNA confirmation. I did not post my results, I've never had a DNA test done.  

So I pulled up the two files, Bertie Baker and her mama Annie Leonard, and Lo and Behold, someone has posted their results on their own profile, presumed, and said test results have permeated parent/child ties and reached these two women ... the one who posted their results is a grand niece of Annie 

I don't know what to do about this lack of confirmation, I don't reckon it is my problem even if the two women are on my Watchlist, but I sent a question to G2G about this -- there might be some procedure or protocol 

 I figure the simplest is to notify the other whose results were posted and let her deal with it   --- eh ... but I will see what is said in the forum 

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Susan, I had two DNA connections removed (appropriately) by a data doc as the connection wasn't close enough for a confirmation. <sigh>

Answer 7

Well if I clicked on the right place this should be my maiden voyage on weekend chat. Hello all  - I really enjoyed scrolling through your chat. It is nice to enjoy a little connection when the current situation in south east Queensland Australia means I still have not had the opportunity to physically be in the same space as my 7 children and my 12 grandchildren for over 3 months *sigh*.

Loved the pictures of the beautiful grounds and garden - nature always brings a smile.

I have been spending my down time this weekend trying to learn a little more about how to drive wikitree - still so so much to learn but I am loving the experience.

Thanks again for sharing a little about your weekend all - oh and I forgot I have found a 'cousin' of my younger children on Wilitree and look forward to working with her to document well the family members from the past.

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you clicked correct for the voyage in the chat, Rosalie. Welcome at WikiTree, whenever you have questions, ask in G2G or here. You're right, we are a great bunch of people here. Have fun exploring even more, and different stuff at WikiTree.

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Woot!!! - launch successful. 

Thank you for the welcome Jelena.  However, it may be best not to encourage my questioning nature - I never outgrew being that annoying child that just keeps asking why? 

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How do you expect to get answers if you never ask the questions?

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Exactly 

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Welcome to the chat!

It's another WikiTree rabbit hole to crawl into.

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Welcome to the Chat, Rosalie! I hope you'll become a regular here. I've really gotten to know some of my fellow WikiTreers through their postings.

WikiTree does have a learning curve. I've been through that, and though I have been a member for over two years, I'm still learning! For me, it's worth the effort.

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Thank you for the welcome - I am enjoying reading the insights shared of how others are spending their weekends. Love the community/family vibe scrolling through the snippets brings.

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Enjoyed the comments...... I'm practicing a learning curve.......and  when in doubt read the instruction manual......I recall.

Answer 8

On this day: 

1743: The British monarch George II. takes part in the Battle of Dettingen and is that way the last reigning monarch fighting in war.

1880: Helen Keller is born

1991: Two days after Slovenia declared its independence from Yugoslavia, the Yugoslav Army starts the Yugoslav Wars.

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Thanks Jelena, for keeping us posted with your "On this day" events. Some are very interesting and not in the news so wouldn't have known anything about them.

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I had forgotten about Geo II and his battle experience. Good one!

Answer 9

As I suspected this morning I woke up to, you guessed it, More Rain! Well today I planned to spend indoors in my home all day anyway so no real problem with the rain. We plan on doing laundry this morning and this afternoon I plan on trying to play with my radio for Field Day but I should have some time to work on WikiTree as well, We Will See. We got some slightly depressing news yesterday. It seems that the 19 year old pregnant granddaughter will have to have knee replacement surgery within the next 2 years. She had a fall at her former place of employment last fall and the owner has been fighting paying her medical bills. The delay in treatment has caused permanent damage to her knee and thus the need for replacement. I am very anti lawsuits in most cases but I feel that in this case she would be justified to try and sue her former employer.

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Ouch. I had knee problems myself for decades which were eventually only solved at the fifth surgery four years ago, but I can imagine her pain and the stiffness in her knee. And although I can't do a Lotus-seat anymore I am still able to squat down ok (but not too deep though) and get something from the ground. I can imagine she has problems with that too, and not only because of pregnancy.

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I can feel her pain. I fell on my left knee and had to wear a cast for a while. Then three years later I twisted my angle on my left leg and broke some bones. That one landed me in surgery and a cast for several weeks. Couldn't sue anyone, as the first was my fault and the second was my dog's fault, running away from me to chase another dog not on a lease.

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A knee replacement at 19?!? I hope she comes through it with flying colors. That lawsuit might just be the thing.

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I know Pip. They are talking about me needing one eventually but I have about 50 years more on mine than she has on hers.

Answer 10

Today is....

           

NATIONAL ICE CREAM CAKE DAY

National Ice Cream Cake Day on June 27th each year brings two celebration favorites together under one delicious treat! And in the height of summer, an ice cream cake creates the perfect dessert for just about any occasion.

Ice cream cake makers build these treats out of any flavor of ice cream into the shape of a cake. And they can add many different ingredients, too. Whether you like cookie crumbs, sponge cake, fudge, fruit, or caramel between the layers, they make delicious things happen. Then they take it a step further with the decorating. They begin by adding frosting, whipped cream, or icing. Just like baked cakes, ice cream cakes are decorated to fit any theme or celebration.

Although the origin of the ice cream cake remains somewhat of a mystery, there’s no doubting this popular dessert combines two classics. Between the classic summer treat, ice cream, and the time-honored celebratory cake, the ice cream cake becomes one of culinary history’s favorite combinations.

HOW TO OBSERVE "National Ice Cream Cake Day":

Order an ice cream cake from your favorite bakery or make your own to share with friends. Whether it’s for your child's birthday, favorite sports team or your hairdresser, ice cream cakes come in all sizes to fit the celebration.  We would love to see photos of your creations and learn your favorite flavor combinations.

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I love a good ice cream cake. Our best Mexican restaurant make a killer fried ice cream concoction. I get it just about every time we go.

Answer 11

It was my idea my idea to send Isaac Lewin to Ireland to start the Ross-Lewins......... but I lost him........do you know where he is?      Jack

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John, if he was from Essex, then you've got a lot to choose from.... unfortunately.

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Thanks for the heads up,Pip.

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Recently found my ancestor,Robert Lewin (1650),( his son John the start of the Ross-Lewins) in Limerick,,,,,,,,had to do some mental gymnastics to decipher the Ross will ........best I draw a map........heard a Mr.Sheppard knew some Lewins in Essex........where  might I ask??

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John, here's the family I'm working on...

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lewin-514

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Thanks for the comment......I will also check back with Simone soon re;some recent info on the Ross-Lewins.

Answer 12

Also .......have two son in-laws with lawnmowers........one on warranty,the other, with a flat tire,on Neptune........the owner,due to another unfortunate incident,might want to be there tooooooo.............

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LOL!!!! Both of mine under warranty, but Sears will repair theirs on-site. Lowe's hauls theirs off... to Neptune or further off. I have no idea when I'll get it back.

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Is it down hill from where its at ?

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Over hill, over dale....

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Understood ........til I here otherwise.

Answer 13

Aloha from Linciln, Nebraska.

Work: Still busy. I went to Raymore Missouri, Prairie Village Kansas, Council Bluffs Iowa, Omaha, Norfolk, Columbus, Leigh, Schuyler, Kearney, and Grand Island in Nebraska. Monday was a 12he work day, the rest of the week were only 9hr days.Most of those places are 2hrs or less from home.

My little daughter turned 10 on Wednesday. She had a great time. She missed having her friends over for a party. She said it was a good birthday.

My 15yr old son and I are about to have a man to man talk about his inability to do his chores. He got lippy with his mom about his laundry. He found out that was the wrong thing to do. Dang kids these days. My 7yr old has been great. My 18yr old. She likes to tell me how not woke I am. She also likes to tell me I'm not a good because of my lack of outrage or that My outrage is misdirected.

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You sure are busy. The places sound interesting, I only get to visit them chasing ancestors. If you ever get to Lone Elm, Kansas I am really curious if there is just one tree.

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Sometimes I'm in one of those places for under 2hrs. I'm either there to fix construction equipment. Or do preventative maintenance. I'm not sure if we have any equipment near Lone Elm, Kansas

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Yep, I did the same thing if one of mine got “lippy” with their mom. That wasn’t happening.

So, no long trips this week. Bet you liked that!

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Paul:

Your situation explains why I have spent the last twenty-five years teaching grades three, four, five, and six. (In Canada, students turn eight by December 31 of their grade three year and students turn eleven by December 31 of their grade six year.) Up to that age, children are still family and parent-focused. That means they still cuddle with and show their love to their parents easily. (They also want to love their teachers.)

Once teens (and pre-teens) become more peer-focused, they start to rebel against parents, teachers, and authority figures. (I shudder to think about what I said to my own mother at age 16.) This stage helps them to develop their own identities, but at this age, young people can say very hurtful things to the adults in their lives. There is the old story about the 16-year-old who thought that her mother knew nothing, but when she was 20 years old was surprised about how much her mother had learned in four years.

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Anne, So true! I told my daughter once that if she wants her daughter to be apart of her life that she should let her see you being a part of her mother's life. So she does.

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I used toxic masculinity with my son. It shut him up. Also he used his manners after that. Sometimes you have to turn in to a drill sergeant. It's all in knowing when to be hard, when to be soft and when to be in between. I'm not perfect by any means. Knowing my children's personalities, goes a long way. We do just hang out at times. With 4 kids, it's not easy. But I try to give them individual attention.

I was having a great weekend. Until I saw my 18yr old daughters 19yr old ex boyfriend. I saw him at the grocery store. I had a talk with him about being a real man. Short version. Real men don't hide behind keyboards and screens. I hate social media bullies.

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I'm re-reading every thing.......great comments.

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Paul,

"Drill sergeant" methods can be hard on the youngest. Line 'em up against the wall. Everyone gets a swat down the line oldest to youngest until someone confesses. Once a confession is made then the confessor gets double whatever the others got. Problem is that the older ones coerce the youngest to confess or they would get even. They claimed he would be easy on you. Those were suppose to be the "good old days!"

Answer 14

Greetings from Everett, Washington!

I have a short time to post this morning because the weekend is so busy.

I finished the baby quilt yesterday.  Today my daughter and I will take the ferry over to Kingston to the baby shower where we will meet with a family from church.  The baby's family is living in Galveston, Texas, where Daddy is a new resident M.D.  

Tomorrow is my son's 24th birthday.  I took him to get his State ID card renewed to the Department of Licensing yesterday only to discover that all DOL offices in Washington are closed, or open only by appointment, and not for the purpose of renewing IDs.  On the website we are told that if an ID is renewed online it can't be used for identification, so what is the point? But we came home and renewed online for $54 anyway.  In the process he was registered to vote which is crucial this year.

At the supermarket on Thursday I suddenly realized that I must order a birthday cake for him.  My son, I must admit, is a fan of My Little Pony (male fans are called Broneys). Not that big a fan, but he knows considerable.  There was a cake with rainbow swirls of frosting and an ice cream cone, made to look like a rainbow unicorn. I'm afraid I didn't give him much of a choice, but I took a picture and emailed it to him right there in the store, and he approved it.  In the greeting card section was a huge stand-up My Little Pony card, so I got that for him.

He's a huger fan of Godzilla.  The Godzilla Jenga game arrived yesterday and he and his sister were playing it.  Jenga is a game of stacking blocks and the loser is the one who removes the block that makes the whole thing fall down.  We are also waiting for the Godzilla Monopoly game to arrive.  Another one in which buildings are threatened.

The Mukilteo Historical Society had a Zoom board meeting Thursday night at which I, being secretary, took notes and sent them out later that evening.  The board developed a detailed plan for renovating the gift shop and reconfiguring traffic within when reopening happens.  We are waiting for the City of Mukilteo to make a decision about replacing the roof on the lighthouse as we don't want to go through another winter with the water damage that is there. In August we may have a Zoom meeting for the general membership.

I empathize with Paul, and with Diane.  I have a great fear of falling down while getting in or out of the bath.  That is why I stopped taking baths.  Lately I have resigned myself to doing it again because my hairdresser requires me to have the hair shampooed before I come see her.  Last week I got the hair colored but not trimmed much and it looks so much better.

As my daughter continues to play Fallout 76 online, I continue to work on West Virginia profiles.  I was looking for a James M. Vangilder, or at least that's what the initial on the marriage record said.  I worked up a profile for a James Monroe Vangilder of Tyler County.  My daughter showed me the Tyler County fairgrounds on the West Virginia map in Fallout 76.  Turns out the middle initial was N., not M., so I ended up making profiles for both guys.  By the way, there are some nasty people playing Fallout 76. Two guys maliciously destroyed the virtual house and Mothman Museum that my daughter set up and were bragging about it.  She has sympathetic fellow gamers who helped her pick up the pieces and invited her to their private server.  She removed the vending machines in her house so that other gamers won't find it.

The weather outside is cloudy and rainy, but warm.  I hear her getting her breakfast so it's time to pack our lunches and be off on an adventure.

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Margaret, I really hope the city comes through. I know they’re having to be careful about allocations, but history is so important (though you couldn’t tell by the news on TV).

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Hi from B.C.,We have a little too much current weather here this year....... I see we're sharing it with you.

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We have the grant funding lined up.  It's going to take a while, though.  The historical society will seek community input on the color of the roof tiles.  The current tiles have NO historical significance and we want the community to know that in case the tiles we choose are a slightly different shade of red and folks get upset because it's different from what they're used to.  The society is considering salvaging the tiles when they come off and selling them as fundraisers.  Once the tiles come off, the condition of the roof can be inspected to see the extent of the water damage.  It would be best if this could be done in a reliably dry season, unlike what the current summer has proven to be so far.

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Selling the old tiles is a great idea. I’ve heard of old school and such doing that, wood from doors, glass from windows, bricks. Margaret, I’ll buy a tile!

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Our two-day trip to Charlotte was rather exhausting. We stopped at the property on the way (my wife had only seen it via FaceTime). Then around the inner loop to our hotel in Charlotte. One does not have to go to a NASCAR track to see a race. It's equally as exciting (or fear causing) to drive on 485 in south Charlotte.

The hotel was fine, and we were able to have supper with one of my brothers at the Hickory Tavern. The next day, we had to check out at 11 a.m., but still had three hours to kill. We really didn't feel like looking around or shopping as the traffic was horrible. I remember when southwest Mecklenburg was all country. Not so now. It's crammed!!!! One good thing, though, was to see all the shopping centers and neighborhoods named after my ancestors who owned land in the area from back in the 1700s: Rea Road, Rea Commons, etc...

Closing took no time and we got in a little early actually. Then it was a three hour drive home due to traffic and construction. I could barely stay awake for my greeters' shift at 9 p.m. So, now I'm playing catch-up with the Chat. Sorry it took so long to respond. And, thank you, Dorothy, for monitoring it while I was out of commission.

We are now the proud owners of a wooded rural 4.52 acres back in one of my ancestral counties. We won't be building right away, but we are looking at plans or making our own.

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Yes Pip I remember driving in the city of Charlotte well. For a time my daughter lived in the city of Charlotte proper and visiting her was not all that fun. Now that she has moved to southern Rowan county it is much less traffic and calmer driving.

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Dale, it was bad all the way through Gastonia on 85, then the 23 miles of construction From Gaffney to Spartanburg. A big multi-car pile-up on 26 near Fletcher. Needless to say, our two and one half hour drive home took a good bit longer than that.

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Pip, I think that the 85/485 construction is a never ending project. I remember it from years ago.

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The weather the past week was exceptionally nice if a bit warm than I like. The garden is doing well and is mostly in maintenance now. Today is supposed to be hot (low 90F/30C range).

Genealogically, did a lot of work trying to find an ancestor using some of the methodology I was learning in the class I took this past week. Didn't find anything to help that brick wall but did find a bit more on some other ancestors. Learned a lot. While I had previously learned much of what was covered, I now see how to apply the tools differently. Also learned that you really, really need to research the laws in effect at the time of your ancestors if you want to find women and children.They varied widely. Also, lookup the occupation terms used in a census. For example in the 1880 US census, a "house keeper" is not the same as "keeping house." The former is working outside of the home and earning a wage. The latter is at home. Another strange one is that in the colonial period and later (depending on where) , a male who was still a minor could buy property but could not sell it without going to court. Now to apply it to all my brick wall female ancestors.

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Oh those little linguistical hooks that can be good hints on one side and bricks on the other side if you don't know to interpret them properly... Thanks for teaching us the difference between "keeping house" and "house keeper".

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Yes. I now know to look at the instructions for the census and not just "assume" I know what things mean. Also need to spend a lot of time in court records for traces of my brick walls.

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So, Doug, no more snow? 

I really do need to pay more attention to census records. And it would certainly help if I knew the 1800s laws for North Carolina! Good suggestions, Doug!

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Doug. Thanks so much for the insight on the 1880 census.

Guess reviewing the instructions would really help. I've also noticed the farm laborer either on "home farm" or "working out"

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No more snow for a while. Now it is heat and lack of rain. Did I mention that we are borderline desert? On a good year we might get 12-13 inches but average is about 11-12.

Pip, You might also want to look at legislation. There were lots of private bills that were done for various reasons like naturalizations and divorce. Other things with the census is an occupation might point you at one that has an apprenticeship. That might lead to other records that could identify parents.

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It's 20. century, but I have an apprentice job application letter of my aunt's father. He named there his father, which is actually til now the only source I have for his father. I still didn't care for that line though.

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The GRIP (Genealogy Institute in Pittsburgh) has some open to the public sessions coming up. These are at 7PM Eastern US time. The July 6 session is by Judy Russell on "Finding the Law." She is so much fun to listen to.

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I read.......I learn,

Answer 17

Currently, it's 25˚ C and overcast in Fort Erie. The predicted low tonight is 18˚ C, and tomorrow is predicted to be partly cloudy with a high of 25˚ C. We had a good soak last night, and one a few days ago, or otherwise, the temperatures would probably be in the mid-to-high 30s. I am very much enjoying the break in the heat, although of course the humidity is up.

Saturdays are laundry days at Hoksu Mitto¹. I also sorted the canned goods on the shelf in our kitchen. (Not, you understand, because I am a neat freak, but rather because I wanted to make the light of my life and the delight of my eyes waffles with peaches and whipped cream for breakfast, and was looking to see if we had any peaches left. But, alas, my search was [ahem] fruitless.)

On the genealogy front, I have made some progress on Welches this month, but have been hampered by the lack of sources not blocked behind paywalls and/or registration walls. So, I have been thinking about perhaps branching out to more surnames in our family tree than the three I am currently managing projects for. I started up a new spreadsheet, listing the 31 surnames that we have found in our family trees so far, going back to our great-great-grandparents. (Yes, I know there should be 32 surnames at that level, but we haven't been able to trace the parents of Frederick Kelso yet.) Then, I looked up the number of profiles on WikiTree for each surname, and sorted by that number. The top ten surnames in our families are:

1. Miller
2. White
3. Phillips
4. McDonald
5. West
6. Webb
7. Woods
8. French
9. Welch
10. Hancock

(The surnames that are links are those which have existing One Name Studies for them.) You'll notice that two of the studies I manage are eighth and ninth on the list. (Slade is in 19th place.) Clearly, I should have done this before creating my first One Name Study, and picked Phillips, McDonald, and Webb. I'm not really sure that I'm ready to take on yet another One Name Study, but I might do things like crunch the numbers and build charts for existing studies. I need to think on that.

Greg

1. We named our home "Hoksu Mitto" ("wonderful place"), from a term in a series of books that started with Little Fuzzy, by H. Beam Piper. The Fuzzies (or Gashta, as they call themselves) are an intelligent alien species discovered on a supposedly uninhabited planet. They're about 18" high at adulthood, covered with fur, cute and fun-loving, and, apparently can taste titanium salts at levels measured in parts per million. (The light of my life and the delight of my eyes has a similarly acute sense of taste, picking up on things that I put into her food in amounts barely large enough to see. She is also short, cute, and fun-loving, so we have decided that she must be at least part Gashta.)

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Greg, I see that the image of Kelso’s marriage record has been retired and now it has to be hunted for amongst others. Wonder why FS did this.

I think I’ll start calling my wife Gashta and see how long it takes for her to ask... 

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I read a chapter of something to the light of my life and the delight of my eyes every night just before we turn out the lights. She particularly liked the Fuzzy books, although as I was researching Beam Piper to create his profile, I learned that there are three more Fuzzy sequels that we haven't read yet, so clearly I need to get them, and start the series over from the beginning.

Other bedtime favourites have been The Chronicles of Narnia, all the books by Grace May North that we've been able to find, Anne of Green Gables, Pollyanna, and we've also been working through the Tom Swift books, although we take a break between them, because while I think the stories are fun in general, the treatment of Eradicate Sampson strikes me as really racist. (Although, to be fair, I wasn't in upstate New York in the 1910s to the 1940s, so, however unlikely it may seem, I suppose it's possible that his dialect is an accurate representation of usage in that place at that time.)

Anyway, she takes her burgers very plain: patty, cheese, and maybe a leaf of lettuce, while I pile mine up with lettuce or alfalfa sprouts and cheese, plus mayo, relish, ajvar if we have any, chili sauce or ketchup, sliced tomato, and maybe pickles if we have any. So one of my running gags is to put microscopic little dabs of mayo, ketchup, and relish on her bun. She laughs every single time, and then swears that she can still taste it, and then says, "I'm Gashta!"

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That was a fun read!!

Answer 18

HI everyone!  I'm back after a year or so hiatus of working outside the house. Now into quarantine.  

 I also was able to reconnect with some cousins & my son (25) moved to a town just north of Salt Lake City - yes! I'm planning a vacation to spend time at the library when it reopens.  Busy trying to find primary sources to update the pages I left floundering.  Hope I can help a bit more with PGM, US History, & Scotland projects.  Hoping to add my family to the "brick wall" and maybe get some suggestions as to what to do to crack it a bit when I get there.  

The weather in Maricopa County, AZ (Phoenix) is HOT! But we will be back to only double digits for a few days.  At least they have the fire that was close to our house almost out.  Praising the first responders.   

I love reading everyone else's posts.

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Hi there, Elizabeth, and welcome back! I keep hearing how hot it is in Arizona, but my older brother isn’t put off by that. He’s still looking for property around Tuscon since he was furloughed from American Airlines. If he does, I think I might only visit him in the winter!

Answer 19

On the Genealogy Front: Update 

I was working on Jesse Robinette (1776-1832) and came across two JESSEs living in Alleghany county, Maryland in the 1830 US Census: Only one had slaves. I thought there were the same age (I was wrong). I found them in 1820 census which told me that the slaveholder lived in District 7 and the other was in District 6. I had issues trying to figure out which one belonged to which set of records.

So I asked on G2G and got the answer in 40 minutes. It turns out that Jesse's probate file had mentioned the disposition of "Negro property".

So I updated for the age discrepancy and noted in Research Notes that the older of the two JESSEs was a slaveholder and lived in District 7 with his wife, Dorcas "Darkey" Johnson.

Just wanted everyone to know, in case it ever comes up, that

Yes!

Jesse Robinette was a slaveholder.

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Pat, I remember from years ago finding wills of ancestors who passed on slaves to children among other “property.” I was shocked. And just this year, I came across probate records where some slaves were sold to neighbors and relatives at estate sales. This is tough for me to handle, but there it is.

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Noted.......

Answer 20

This is a one of a kind Profile that deserves its own answer:

My first and only bilingual profile: translation provided by Yandex Translate.

I have a soft spot when it comes to children who die young and try to make their profiles special.

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I do the same, as best I can, Pat. When it comes to those who died young, it’s an opportunity to write a bio, short though it may be, for them.

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Just refreshed my memories.......