Is anyone less than 16 degrees from Emma Smith?

Question

I am 16 steps from Emma Hale Smith through my Norton ancestry,but I am not directly related to her.

Comments

7th cousin 3 times removed via Henry Howland Sr.  Connection Finder shows something entirely different at 14 degrees.

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14 degrees, as well as 5th cousins 4 times removed (and a few others). I also have multiple relationships to her husband.

Answer 1

Emma Smith is 11 Degrees from Alexis Nelson

Comments

Double that ... Emma Smith is 22 Degrees from Tommy Buch

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Tommy, I love your comment. I pasted my answer from the connection finder—didn’t plan on it coming up this big.

Answer 2

14 for me, through the Huntleys of the Connecticut Colony. Also 4th cousins 5 times removed, through Thomas Barnes of the Connecticut Colony.

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I am also 14 degrees, and my connection also involves Connecticut people named Huntley.

Lucy Mack, the mother of prophet Joseph Smith is my 2nd cousin 7x removed via shared Huntley ancestry (and I recall that we also share some Gee ancestry).

And Emma (Hale) Smith is a 6th cousin 4x removed via a different set of Connecticut ancestors (Richard Platt-23).

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Ellen - We're only 8th cousins, but apparently we have a lot of early NE immigrant ancestors in common 9, 10, 11 generations ago.

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Yeah, 66 common ancestors in 15 generations is a pretty large number of ancestors on common.

I am almost surprised we don’t show up as autosomal DNA matches, due to our descent from the same population.

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Maybe when the common ancestors are 9+ generations ago, the DNA has been chopped up and respliced so many times that any matching segments are quite short? I was just playing around on Gedmatch and found that we have no matches until you reduce the criteria for a match down to 3cms.

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66 common ancestors within 10 generations (or even just 10 generations) are only a small fraction of our ancestries at that depth, so it is not reasonable to expect any DNA matches. However, I have several rather good DNA matches to people who map out as 8th cousins or so, with multiple shared ancestors in early New England and no indication of a more recent common ancestor, and I do believe that these DNA matches may be due in part to our sharing so many common ancestors drawn from the same population.

Answer 3

15 degrees. Seems a descendant married a Motley. Hmm. My great grandmother was a Motley. The relationship finder however says we're 14th cousins 5 x removed.

Answer 4

David,

I am a 5th cousin 4 times removed from Emma through Andrew (Ward) Warde I (abt. 1597 - 1659) this is through my paternal line.

and 3rd cousin 5 times removed from Joseph through  Aaron Huntley Jr. (bef. 1680 - 1748) this is through my maternal line.

Answer 5

Emma and I are 13th Cousins, 5 times removed. Courtesy of Randal Mainwaring-11. His son William Mainwaring-15 is the route to Emma; and Randal's daughter Phillipa Mainwaring-308 Delves is the route to myself. Phillipa's grand dau married an Aston thence to Fielding, Rucker, Tinsley (which ties to my mother's Howell line) to Chaffin (which ties to my father's Huffman line) ...

TODAY, I looked again and it's telling me I am 11 degrees separated ... hmm ... didn't say that yesterday

So ALSO 11 degrees (due to a marriage of my Auntie Caroline Smith) to Denzil Follett etc

Answer 6

Emma Smith is 15 Degrees,The relationship finder says we are  6th cousins 6 times removed.

Answer 7

18 degrees - 6th cousin - 6 times removed

Answer 8

Hi, I am 13 degrees, but not related to her..  I am related to her husband 3rd cousin 5 times removed.

Answer 9

Not me,   I'm 16 degrees.

Answer 10

16 degrees. 6th cousin 6x removed. Common ancestors are Preston-13, Howland-21, and Tilley-73

Answer 11

15 degrees.  One of her cousins married one of my gggggg uncles. Through the Atwaters of CT on my side and the Lewises on Emma's side.

Answer 12

14 degrees from Emma Hale Smith.  6th cousins 6 times removed.  Rhonda (Tucker) Zimmerman and Emma (Hale) Smith are both descendants of Richard Platt.

Answer 13

Emma and I are 4th cousins 6 times removed. We are both descended from Chipman-58 Hope (Chipman) Cobb of Barnstable, Plymouth Colony.

Answer 14

This is kind of weird (to me anyway)...though the degrees connection I'm 14 degrees through my maternal grandfather's side...in the relationship finder we are 5th Cousins 6x Removed through my paternal grandmother's side.

Answer 15

12 degrees here