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Agnes (Aquitaine) d'Aquitaine (abt. 1103 - 1159)

Agnes "Ines, reina de Aragón" d'Aquitaine formerly Aquitaine aka de Poitou
Born about in Aquitaine, Francemap
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Wife of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Wife of — married 1135 [location unknown]
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Died at about age 56 in Maine, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, Francemap
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Biography

Agnes de Aquitaine, sometimes referred to as Agnes de Poitou or Poitiers, was a daughter of William IX, Duke of Aquitaine and Count of Poitou, and his second wife, Philippa of Toulouse. Her birth date is unknown but has been estimated to circa 1103[1] and probably late in that year, based on her father having returned from the crusades in Autumn (Fall) 1102.[2]

First Marriage

She married firstly Amaury (or Aimery) VI, Vicomte de Thouars. [3] This marriage must have taken place before 9 January 1117, when she is noted as his wife, in a confirmation of a grant to the abbaye de Saint-Laon de Thouars.[4]


Research Notes

This profile originally had a birth date of 6 June 1097, but there appeared to be no sources for this date, and exact birth dates in this time period are rare.

Leaving what is below for the moment, but probably it is all copy and paste from other sources'

Name: Agnaes, Princess of Aquitaine
Name: Agnes of Aquitane
Birth: ABT 1100, Aquitaine
Birth: ABT 1097, SDATE 1 JUL 1097
Death: 1159.

Inés de Poitou (en Francia Agnès de Poitiers o Agnès de Poitou, también conocida como Inés de Aquitania), fue una princesa de la familia de los ramnúlfidas, hija de Guillermo IX de Poitiers, llamado el Trovador, duque de Aquitania y conde de Poitiers, y de Felipa de Toulouse. Se desposó en primeras nupcias el 11 de abril de 1106 con Aimerico V de Thouars, del que tuvo cuatro hijos, entre ellos, Guillermo I de Thouars.

Hacía ocho años que era viuda cuando, en segundas nupcias, se desposó con el rey de Aragón Ramiro II el Monje el 13 de noviembre de 1135 en la catedral de Jaca. La principal razón de que éste le pidiera su mano fue el propio hecho de que ella hubiera tenido ya hijos. Además, la familia de Inés estaba muy ligada a la casa real aragonesa pues una tía suya, también llamada Inés, casada con Pedro I, el hermano mayor de Ramiro, había sido ya reina de Aragón antes que ella.

Ramiro II se casó con Inés de Poitou probablemente el día 13 de noviembre de 1135 en la catedral de Jaca y de ese matrimonio nació una hija, Petronila de Aragón, el 29 de junio de 1136, futura reina de Aragón.

Es muy probable que ese mismo año Inés de Poitou, una vez que había dado una heredera al Reino, volviera a cruzar los Pirineos; de hecho, su nombre no vuelve a aparecer en la documentación aragonesa de la época. Esto nos lleva a pensar que en realidad la única razón del matrimonio fue la necesidad de la casa real aragonesa de asegurarse un heredero.

De nuevo en Aquitania, Inés de Poitou se retiró a la abadía de Fontevraud, donde también había vivido su madre, y allí murió hacia el año 1159.


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Agnes of Aquitaine was a daughter of Duke William IX of Aquitaine and his wife Philippa, Countess of Toulouse. She was an aunt of Eleanor of Aquitaine, Queen consort of France and England.

First marriage. Agnes was first married to Aimery V of Thouars, the marriage produced four children, including William I of Thouars. Aimery died within a few years and Agnes remained a widow for eight years.

Second marriage. Agnes was secondly married to Ramiro II of Aragon, the couple probably on November 13 of 1135 in the cathedral of Jaca. The exact reason for the marriage was that Agnes had already bore children, if she could have four surviving children, then she probally would be able to give Ramiro a surviving heir. The couple did have children, they had one daughter, Petronila of Aragon, who later succeded her father as King of Aragon. Ramiro died in 1157.

Petronila was betrothed to Ramon Berenguer IV at the age of two. The marriage contract, signed at Barbastro on 11 August 1137, made Petronila the heiress to the crown of Aragon, which in event of her childless death would pass to Ramon Berenguer and any children he might have by another wife

It is very likely, that she went back to Aquitaine, after the birth of her daughter, since the only reason for the marriage was to give birth to an heir and Aragon didn't have trouble with female monarchs. This can be proved because her name doesn't appear on any Aragonese documents, during the period.

Agnes retired to the Abbey of Fontevraud, where her mother had lived and died there around 1159.


Agnes of Aquitaine was a daughter of Duke William IX of Aquitaine.

She first married Aimery V of Thouars. In her second marriage, she bore Petronila of Aragon, the daughter and heiress of Ramiro II of Aragon.

Matilda (Agnes) de POITOU, aka Agnes (Maud) d' AQUITAINE. Born: abt. 1097 Died: abt. 1156

HM George I's 15-Great Grandmother. Lady Diana's 24-Great Grandmother. PM Churchill's 24-Great Grandmother. Geo Washington's 19-Great Grandmother. Louis XVII's 18-Great Grandmother. Poss. my 26-Great Grandmother.

Husbands/Partners: Ramiro II SANCHEZ (King) of ARAGON ; Aimery VI (V) de THOUARS

Children: Petronilla RAMIREZ (Queen) of ARAGON ; Geoffroy V de THOUARS ; Marguerite de THOUARS


Agnes of Aquitaine, the daughter of Duke William IX of Aquitaine, first married Aimery V of Thouars. In her second marriage, to our ancestor King Ramiro II of Aragon, she bore Petronila of Aragon.


Translation Extract: Daughter of William IX Duke of Aquitaine and sister of Duke William X (the father of Eleanor of Aquitaine), Agnes of Poitiers was first married to the viscount of Thouars Aimeri V. Left a widow at 24, his destiny intersects Then one of Ramiro the Monk, brother of King Alfonso I of Aragon, who died childless

He ascended the throne of Aragon in the name of Ramiro II and wife Agnes of Poitiers, who gave him a daughter Petronilla. When the last one year, the confidence in the Count of Barcelona Ramon Berenguer IV became Prince of Aragon and Regent After that, his marriage having been annulled by the papacy, King Ramiro returns to the convent. As for Agnes, she returned to Poitou, where she spent the rest of his days. It is based in Fontevraud. Petronilla, by his marriage to Raymond Berenger, is the founder of the dynasty that reigned Catalonia and Aragon Aragon on first, then to Spain, until the advent of the Bourbons in 1700. http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.cyberindre.org/jahia/Jahia/portail/archives/pid/9617&ei=J58ZTYGRFIm64QaC-cGGAg&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=4&sqi=2&ved=0CDMQ7gEwAw&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dagnes%2Bd%2527aquitaine%2B1159%26hl%3Den%26prmd%3Divnso


Agnes was secondly married to Ramiro II of Aragon[1], the couple probably wed on November 13 of 1135 in the cathedral of Jaca. The exact reason for the marriage was that Agnes had already borne children; if she could have four surviving children, then she would probably be able to give Ramiro a surviving heir. The couple did have children - they had one daughter, Petronila of Aragon, who later succeeded her father as Queen of Aragon. Ramiro died in 1157.

From Douglas Richardson AGNES OF AQUITAINE, married (1st) before 1117 AMAURY (or AIMERY) [VI], Vicomte of Thouars. The had three sons, Guillaume [Vicomte of Thouars], Guy, and Geoffroi [V] [Vicomte of Thouars]. His widow married (2nd) RAMIRO II, King of Aragon and Navarre. They had one daughter, Petronila [Queen of Aragon] (wife of Raymond Berengar [IV], Count of Barcelona).

  • Child of Agnes of Aquitaine, by Amaury (or Aimery) VI of Thouars. GEOFFROI [V], Vicomte of Thouars, married AUMUR (or AUMOU) _____. They had five sons : Amaury (or Aimery) [VII] [Vicomte of Thouars], Guy [Duke of Brittany, Earl of Richmond], :Hugues [seigneur of Montaigu and la Garnache], and Raymond, two daughters, Marie, and Amabil.


Sources

  1. Salazar y Acha, Jaime de, Las dinastías reales de España en la Edad Media (Madrid : Real Academia de la Historia, 2021). Electronic edition, Agencia Estatal Boletín Oficial del Estado, www.boe.es/biblioteca_juridica/publicacion.php?id=PUB-DH-2021-233 : accessed 12 May 2022.
  2. Cawley, Charles. 'Aquitaine, Dukes: Chapter 6A-Dukes of Aquitaine, Comtes de Poitou 902-1137'. Version 4.3 updated 29 January 2022 in Medieval Lands: A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families. Electronic edition Foundation of Medieval Genealogy. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm : viewed 11 June 2017. Note 616 citing Szabolcs de Vajay 'Ramire II le Moine, roi d'Aragon, et Agnès de Poitou dans l'histoire et dans la légende'
  3. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry Vol. I page 128.
  4. Imbert, Hugues (ed.), Cartulaire de l'abbaye de Saint-Laon de Thouars (Niort, France: ?, 1876). pp. 11-12. Digital edition, HathiTrust, https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uiug.30112048366113&view=1up&seq=62&skin=2021 : accessed 26 July 2022.

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Aquitaine-230 and Aquitaine-17 appear to represent the same person because: These appear to represent the same person, except parents are missing on one
Her parents are known and they have not been attached. Could someone fix this?
posted by Michael Meggison
We need to know if the profile ever got straightened out from the bad merge. From looking at the changes tab, it doesn't appear anything has been done to correct it. I would suggest contacting John who mentioned it a couple of years ago.
Is this Queen Agnes Aquitaine/Poitou 6.6.1097 - 8.3.1159 who married Viscount Aimeri Thouars of Thouars 1090 - 1127 sons William 1120 - 1151 Gui 1125 - 1176 Geoffroi 1125 - 1173 daughter Marguerite 1115 - 1153. With second marriage to King Ramiro Ramirez of Aragon 1094 - 16.8.1147 d Petronilla 29.6.1136 - 18.10.1172?
posted on Aquitaine-230 (merged) by Malc Rowlands
edited by Malc Rowlands
Yes per Wikipedia and at least one of EofA's biographies.
posted on Aquitaine-230 (merged) by Deborah Shaw
Understood.
posted by K. Stromsted
The problem with this profile is that two different women named Agnes d'Aquitaine have been merged incorrectly. One is the wife of Pedro de Aragon, and the other the wife of Aimeri de Thouars, and secondly Ramiro de Aragon.

Please don't make anymore changes to this profile until this can be sorted out and these profiles separated in an appropriate manner.

posted by John Atkinson
I removed Agnes as the child of her grandparents and have requested that the Project Protected profiles of her parents, Guillaume IX and Philippa of Toulouse, attach her as a daughter.
posted by K. Stromsted
I think Aquitaine-77 and Bourgoge-13 are her grandparents instead of her parents. "Genealogics" by Leo van de Pas and Ian Fettes, shows her parentage here, citing Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven ("Europäische Stammtafeln") and "Europäische Stammtafeln" Ed. by Detlev Schwennicke. (http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020533&tree=LEO)
posted by K. Stromsted
Cleanup up merges, but Bio needs further condensing.
posted by Steve Selbrede
Incorrect death date shown in top section. Bio says she died about 1159
posted by Roger Marble
Roman Numeral typo in D. Richardson's Royal Ancestry causing generation mix-up?

Please help make right mix-up of King of Aragon and Navarre's, wife's, birth and death dates, and first husband's Roman Numeral generation mix-up. AGNES OF AQUITAINE had three sons, Guillaume, Guy, and Geoffroi [V].

Source:

  • Royal Ancestry by D. Richardson Vol. I page 128:

AGNES OF (AQUITAINE-17, b. 1097, married (1st) before 1117 AMAURY (AIMERY) [VI], Vicomte of Thouars. The had (3) sons, Guillaume [Vicomte of Thouars], Guy, and Geoffroi [V] [Vicomte of Thouars]. His widow married (2nd) RAMIRO II, King of Aragon and Navarre. They had one daughter, Petronila [Queen of Aragon] (wife of Raymond Berengar [IV], Count of Barcelona).

Son, GEOFFROI [V] would be a new add, I think. ;-)

Thank You,  :-)

This profile needs to have the privacy level set as Open as they are definitely older than 200 years
posted on Aquitaine-230 (merged) by John Atkinson

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