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Margaret Stafford (abt. 1331)

Margaret Stafford
Born about in Tunbridge Castle, Stafford, Staffordshire, Englandmap
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Daughter of and
Sister of [half], , [half], [half], [half], [half], [half], [half] and [half]
Wife of — married about 1342 [location unknown]
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Died [date unknown] in Bramshall, Staffordshire, Englandmap
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Biography

Arms of Ralph, Earl Stafford.

Margaret Stafford was the daughter of Sir Ralph Stafford, K.G., Earl Stafford (d. 1372). According to Richardson (n.d.), her mother was Ralph's first wife, Katherine Hastang.

Margaret was married to John Stafford of Amalcote in c. 1341/2.

Disputed maternal ancestry

Foster (1891), asserted that Margaret was a maternal descendant of Edward I, by making her a daughter of Margaret de Audley.[1] Burke (n.d.), and Roger (n.d.), also claimed that her mother was Margaret d'Audley.[2] Richardson (n.d.), breaks the connection by stating that Margaret's mother was Katherine Hastang.[3] The memorial brass of Humphrey Stafford of Blatherwycke, Northamptonshire (d. 1548), also names the Hastang family.[4]

Foster's (1891), disputed chart showing the Medieval union of Stafford lines ...[1]

Edward I [Plantagenet] (b. 1239 - d. 1307) m.1 Eleanor of Castile (d. 1290)
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Gilbert de Clare, Earl of Gloucester (d. 1295) m. Joan Acre (b. 1272 - d. 1305)
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Margaret de Clare m.2 Hugh de Audely, Earl of Gloucester (d. 1347)
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Margaret de Audeley m. Ralph Stafford, K.G., Earl Stafford (d. 1372)
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Margaret Stafford m. (1341/2) John Stafford of Amelcote, Staffordshire, 2nd son of William Stafford of Sandon.

Parents & Siblings

  • 1331 - 40 Tunbridge, Stffrd., Eng.

Sir Ralph Stafford married Katherine de HASTANG bef 9 Feb 1326/7. Issue:

  1. Joan Stafford
  2. Margaret Stafford[5]

Siir Ralph married Margaret de Audley after 1335:[6] Issue:

  1. Ralph
  2. Hugh
  3. Beatrice
  4. Joane,
  5. Elizabeth
  6. Thomas
  7. Catherine[7]

Death

  • 1396 - 06 - 09 Bramshall, Staffordshire

Sources

  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 Foster, J. (1891). "John William Warre Tyndale, Esq. from the blood royale of England," in The Royal Lineage of Our Noble and Gentle Families, p. 879. Google Books. (see pedigree on Wikitree.com).
  2. ↑ John Burke, A General and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerages of England, Ireland, and Scotland, Extinct, Dormant, and in Abeyance (Google eBook).
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    The Strife of the Roses and Days of the Tudors in the West, p. 140. by W.H. Hamilton Rogers, F.S.A.
  3. ↑ Richardson preferred source.
  4. ↑ "Brasses: in chancel .... #2. of Sir Humphrey Stafford and wife, 1548 (Plate 63) (see Mon. (6)); standing male figure in armour, head on helm, said to be a palimpsest; female figure, top half missing, with end of girdle bearing shield, ermine a chevron; two shields of arms, one quarterly of six for Stafford and Stafford alliances: Fray, Aylesbury, Burdet, Hastang and one unidentified."
    'Blatherwycke', in An Inventory of the Historical Monuments in the County of Northamptonshire, Volume 6, Architectural Monuments in North Northamptonshire (London, 1984), pp. 18-22. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/rchme/northants/vol6/pp18-22 [accessed 4 March 2021].
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    Brass plate, c. 1548 (photo) -- 'Plate 63: 16th-Century Brasses', in An Inventory of the Historical Monuments in the County of Northamptonshire, Volume 6, Architectural Monuments in North Northamptonshire (London, 1984), p. 63. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/rchme/northants/vol6/plate-63 [accessed 4 March 2021].
  5. ↑ Richardson, Douglas, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study In Colonial And Medieval Families, p. 247-248. 2nd Edition, 2011, retrieved 2014-05-03, amb.
  6. ↑ Burke's, p.488
  7. ↑ Richardson, p. 247-248

See Also...

  • Richardson, D. (n.d.) Royal Ancestry, IV, p. 678
  • LDS Endowment: 28 FEB 1934, AFN: 8502-0V




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T-731 Steve T
I had been browsing the beginning of "Rawcliffe, Carole. The Staffords: Earls of Stafford and Dukes of Buckingham, 1394-1521. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press (1978)" - and am reasonably certain that Rawcliffe's text stated that Margaret Stafford was the daughter of Margaret Audley. Now, I was aware that this tree had Katherine De Hastang - and looked into why. Essentially because Douglas Richardson stated it was so in his books.

I checked those, and was not able to work out why he had stated that (and maybe I missed it in his notes, but it was pretty brief in RA - and I did not check the other 2 books).

But, there is a lot more directly from Richardson in this discussion group (google groups still are allowing archival view access): https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/X8VFcpY0hfs/m/aDjzePsMtFMJ Discussion from 2010.

Personally, it might be a good idea to cite the discussion as supplemental to Richardson's books seeing as it appears to be far more detailed and rationalised than what he published in the cited book. ---

Edited to add a transcription of Richardson's relevant text (posted 12 May 2010): "... noted that in 1327 "a fine was levied between Ralph de Stafford and Katherine [de Hastang] his wife, Querents, and Humphrey de Hastang, Deforciant, whereby the manors of Calelond [i.e., Callilond in Southill], Cornwall, and la Hide [in Coppenhall], co. Stafford, were settled in fee tail on the said Ralph and Katherine.

[Feet of Fines, Divers Counties, 1 Ed. I I I . No. 7]."

As such, one has only to look at the subsequent history of these properties to determine if Ralph de Stafford's daughter, Margaret, was the child of this marriage. The following weblinks show that BOTH properties were subsequently in the hands of Margaret's lineal heirs, namely, the family of Willoughby, who were Lords Willoughby of Brook.

1. pg. 608: http://books.google.com/books?id=YUYQAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA608&dq=Stafford+Callilond&cd=2#v=onepage&q=Stafford%20Callilond&f=false

2. pg. 234: http://books.google.com/books?id=Gn9nAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=editions:UOM39015066345490#v=onepage&q&f=false

3. http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=53405'

posted by Steve T
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Eyestone-2 PM Eyestone
Regarding the dispute on mothers for Stafford-223:

Please see preferred list of sources here: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Magna_Carta_Project_Resources

After reviewing other sources listed, I have updated mother to Hastang-1: source Richardson.

posted by PM Eyestone
Eyestone-2 PM Eyestone
This Margaret, who married John de Stafford, was the daughter of Ralph de Stafford and Katherine Hastang. Douglas Richardson, RA Vol V, page 10. See also "Southwick 8" in Royal Ancestry.
posted by PM Eyestone

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