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Robert Harris (abt. 1635 - abt. 1701)

Maj Robert Harris
Born about in Colony of Virginiamap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married about 1650 in Colony of Virginiamap
Descendants descendants
Father of
Died about at about age 66 in New Kent, Virginiamap
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Biography

Birth ABT 1626 Isle Of Wight, Va (questionable)
Also found Birth 1630, Glamorgan Wales
Christening 20 AUG 1626 Beaumont, Essex, England, United KingdomThe
Burial York, Virginia

Research Notes

Conflated

Between the birth date data field and the biography, 4 different birth places appear to be listed. No reliable source is provided showing the person born in any of these 4 places is the same person died in Charles City County, Virginia. Do we know why he died in Charles City County but was buried in York County? Spratlin-29 00:58, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Identity

I don't think this is the Robert Harris who married Mary Clayborne, the one who married her:

Sources

  • Marriage: "U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900"
    Source number: 23849.002; Source type: Pedigree chart; Number of Pages: 3
    Ancestry Record 7836 #536087
    Robert Harris marriage to Mary Claiborne Rice in 1660 in VA.
  • Marriage of son William Harris: "North America, Family Histories, 1500-2000"
    Book Title: Claiborne Pedigree, A Genealogical Table of the Descendants of Secretary William Claiborne of the J
    Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 61157 #1072383
    Robert Harris's son William Harris marriage.
  • Family History: "U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970"
    Volume: 246
    Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 2204 #1099932 (accessed 15 February 2024)
    Name: [Colonel William Harris] [Major Robert Harris]; Birth Date: 1635; Death Date: 1701; SAR Membership: 49168; Role: Ancestor; Application Date: 9 Oct 1930; Spouse: Mary Claiborne; Children: William Harris.

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Harris-64059 and Harris-2878 appear to represent the same person because: they are the same, needs lot of sorting out.
posted by Anne Massey
This profile needs a clear identity. It lists what appear to be 4 different birth places, and no reliable source proving any of the 4 persons presumably born there is the same person that died in Charles City Co. VA and was then buried in York Co. VA.

A reliable source, preferably an original source rather than an abstract, for this person needs to be selected as the "Driver License" for this person.

posted by Ken Spratlin
The Harris family of Virginia is a tangled mess. Frankly, I don't have the resources to untangle it and have decided to wait until some of the other people up the Wikitree tackle it. Liz Shifflet has worked on it and may be able to help. Claiborne Smith is an oft quoted Virginia genealogist. He may have a definitive answer. See Liz's comment below. The places you mention in Virginia - York County, Charles City County and New Kent County are not all that far apart and may have had shared governance particularly in the 17th Century. Records may have ended up in any of the three. My own records have both Robert and Mary dying in New Kent County. (Check the well-preserved records for St. Peter's Episcopal Church, New Kent.) My own records say that the Robert Harris who married Mary Claiborne was the son of John Harris (1586-1638) of Essex, England and Dorothy Colcott of Limbrey, Essex, England (1590-1638) and that at least John died in Charles City County, Virginia. I am comfortable that this all appears to make sense. This also takes issue with the commentary above. RIck Draper (Draper-310)
posted by Richard Draper
edited by Richard Draper
If this is not the Robert Harris who married Mary Clayborne, then the merge should be rejected and the wife removed.

Thanks!

Paula

posted by Paula J
I think you are correct, based on my own records. These have been merged, I suspect.

Rick

posted by Richard Draper
Harris-23619 and Harris-2878 do not represent the same person because: Resetting into the lowest number
posted by Paula J
I am confused about the Claiborne and Hoare names as being wives of Robert Harris please explain to this Harris researcher.
posted by Edna (Niblett) Wood
and then there's this source, while goes into detail about Chaiborne - Harris connections.
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
pps - one of the better overviews of what's known about William Overton's daughter Temperance who married William Harris is https://harrisandrelatedfamiliesofvirginia.wordpress.com/2014/04/26/10/ by m stanhope (2013)
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
p.s. For information about the William said to be son of Thomas and Adria, see his profile.
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
a comment on a Robert Harris (Harris-1869) detached from Claiborne-3:

"The one thing I refuse to use as support for my conclusions is the myth about Mary Claiborne Rice being the wife of this Robert Harris. It simply is not true. There is a very valid explanation for this whole story. One simply has to examine the factual records as well as Rice genealogy."

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Thomas Harris-751 married (1) Adria Hoare-184, (2) Joanne ____ Vincent.

The evidence that Thomas's wife was Adria Hoare is that she and her daughter Mary are named in her father's will (see her profile). Speculation that they had a son named William is based on the codicil of Mary's will (see her profile). There is no evidence for a son of Thomas and Adria named Robert.

Looking at the profile for Mary (Claiborne) Rice... no sources for her & comment says she doesn't exist (Secretary Claiborne having only one daughter, not Mary m Rice, Harris).

continued....

See Gurganey-1 for information ab out the various theories of Thomas's wives.

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
could y'all add your sources please?
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett

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