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Engel Rutgertsz (1650 - 1728)

Engel (Engeltje) "Angelica" Rutgertsz aka Rutgers, Ruth, van Schoonderwoert
Born in New Amsterdam, New Netherlandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Wife of — married about 1671 in Albany, Province of New Yorkmap
Descendants descendants
Died at age 78 in Province of New Yorkmap
Profile last modified | Created 14 Dec 2016
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Biography

Engeltje /Van Schoonderwoert/ [1]

Birth

Engeltje|Engel was bp. on 1650 Apr 10. Baptism was recorded at the Reformed Dutch Church of New Amsterdam, NN[2] [3]. An actual birth date of October 16, 1649 at New Amsterdam was suggested, but not cited.

Parents

  • Father: Ruth Jacobszen [an apparent alias for Rutger Jacobsen]
  • Mother: {not identified]

Children

  1. Catelyntje, bp. on 1691 Sep 20. Baptism was recorded at the Reformed Dutch church of Albany[4]

Death

Engeltje|Engel died 11 JUL 1728[5]

Burial

Engeltje|Engel was buried 11 JUL 1728,

Church Records

Baptism
  • 1650 Apr 10 Engel, Ruth Jacobszen. Wit.: Jan Janszen, Teunis Jacobszen, Engel Jans. [6]
Children's baptisms
  1. 1691 Sep 20 Catelyntje, of Melchert Abrahamsz and Engeltje Rutgertsz. Wit.: Herbert Abrahamsz, Jannetje Blyker. [7]

Research Notes

LNAB

Rutgertsz, Engeltje's patronymic, is the first "surname" that appears for her in church records. Quackenbush-118 09:29, 20 April 2017 (EDT)

Sources

  1. Source: #S525 Cites: The Ancestors and Descendants of Simon Van Ness and Hester Delamater, by David M Riker, 1984, p. 1. The Genealogy of Reverend W H Van Deusen, by Cherry L V D Pratt, 1969, p. 16. Van Brocklin Family Genealogy', by Walter L Van Brocklin, jjvb@alltel.net 2005, p. 52.
  2. NARDC Baptism Record: 1650 Apr 10; Ruth Jacobszen; Engel; Jan Janszen, Teunis Jacobszen, Engel Jans
  3. APR 1650, Source: #S525 Cites: The Ancestors and Descendants of Simon Van Ness and Hester Delamater, by David M Riker, 1984, p. 1. The Genealogy of Reverend W H Van Deusen, by Cherry L V D Pratt, 1969, p. 16. Van Brocklin Family Genealogy', by Walter L Van Brocklin, jjvb@alltel.net 2005, p. 52.
  4. Albany RDC Bapt. Record: 1691 Sep 20; Melchert Abrahamsz, Engeltje Rutgertsz; Catelyntje; Herbert Abrahamsz, Jannetje Blyker
  5. Source: #S525 Cites: The Ancestors and Descendants of Simon Van Ness and Hester Delamater, by David M Riker, 1984, p. 1. The Genealogy of Reverend W H Van Deusen, by Cherry L V D Pratt, 1969, p. 16. Van Brocklin Family Genealogy', by Walter L Van Brocklin, jjvb@alltel.net 2005, p. 52.
  6. Thomas Grier Evans. "Baptisms from 1639 to 1730 in the Reformed Dutch Church, New York." In Collections of the New-York Genealogical and Biographical Society. Vol. II. New York: Printed for the Society, 1890.
  7. Secretary Henry L. Bogert. "Albany Records, Baptisms" in Year Book of the Holland Society of New York. New York: Knickerbocker Press, New York, 1904.
  • The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saiints, Ancestral File Ancestral File Number: B5SS-VX Family Search: FSFTID L7G3-LRB

Acknowledgments

  • Rutgers-3 was created through the import of 124-DeCoursey.ged on 13 September 2010.
  • This person was created through the import of small2.ged on 30 November 2010. merged into Rutgers-3.




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Van Schoenderwoet-2 and Rutgers-3 appear to represent the same person because: Actually I can see now after merge of the husband Melchior that we are in better shape with this than my earlier comments. The only thing that is wrong here is the name Tryntje. This woman is really Engeltje. But the van Schoendwoert name is also okay as an aka for this wife, and than name is already set as an aka on the NNS PPP Rutgers. The bio of the husband identifies her as Engeltje, daughter of Ruttger van Schoendwoert, as set in the NNS PPP already. So all that we need to do here is to merge this match into the patronymic NNS PPP profile Rutgers-3, and keep the name Engeltje, and discard the name Tryntje, since that Tryntje name is still wrong, per my earlier comments. The currently attached children are probably all perfectly fine. The correct marriage is the 1671 marriage already attached to Rutgers. Thanks!
posted by Steven Mix
How correct you are .Trynjte is wife of Abraham Pietersen Van Deursen ,B circa Nov 11 1607, Harlem, Noord-holland, Netherlands
posted by Allan Van Duzen
By your version of Melchior's bio, you have this *wife* Tryntje of Melchior set wrong as the mother of his children.

She is neither the wife nor mother of the children.

She is the grandmother of the children, and mother of Melchior. She is also the daughter of a Melchior, hence the patronym Melchiors.

The van Shoendwoert name is wrong, and possibly confused with the family of Jacobus Van_Schoenderwoert-1.

So we need to detach her as mother from the children of Melchior, and detach her from wife of Melchior, and then merge her away into the correct mother of Melchior from the match.

posted by Steven Mix
Van Schoonderwoert-4 and Rutgers-3 appear to represent the same person because: This is the oldest maternal ancestor in this chain in need of a merge. No tree conflicts. These matches have been reviewed by the New Netherland Settlers Merge Approval System, and the "Green" destination NNS profile is protected as PPP, and the "Merge Pending" profile is now ready and able to be merged into it. I saved the data to the bios. Thanks!
posted by Steven Mix