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Rhodri Molwynog ap Iutgual (abt. 720 - 754)

Rhodri Molwynog ap Iutgual
Born about in Kingdom of Gwynedd, Walesmap
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Died at about age 34 in Kingdom of Gwynedd, Walesmap
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Biography

This biography is a rough draft. It was auto-generated by a GEDCOM import and needs to be edited.

Name

Name: Rhodri /Molwynog/[1][2]

Ancestry of Essylt

Stewart Baldwin provides the following pedigree for Esyllt:

  1. 13|4097. Esyllt ferch Cynan Dindaethwy [HG.1: "Etthil merch Cinnan"] [Note: The best and earliest sources give her as the mother of Merfyn Frych. Later sources erroneously assign her as Merfyn's wife. [3]
  2. 14|8194. Cynan Dindaethwy ap Rhodri Molwynog, king of Gwynedd, d. 816 [AC] [HG.1: "Cinnan map Rotri"] [3]
  3. 15|16388. Rhodri Molwynog ab Idwal Iwrch, d. ca. 754 [AC] [HG.1: "Rotri map Iutguaul"] [3]
  4. 16|32776. Idwal Iwrch ap Cadwaladr Fendigaid [HG.1: "Iutguaul map Catgualart"] [3]
  5. 17|65552. Cadwaladr Fendigaid ap Cadwallon, king of Gwynedd, d. 664 or 682? (sources differ, but the latter date, from AC, seems more likely) [HG.1: "Catgualart map Catgollaun"] [3]
  6. 18|131104. Cadwallon ap Cadfan, king of Gwynedd, d. 634 [AC] [HG.1: "Catgollaun map Catman"] [3]
  7. 19|262208. Catamanus (Cadfan ap Iago), king of Gwynedd, early seventh century, whose tombstone survives at Llangadwaladr ("Catamanus rex sapientisimus opinatisimus omnium regum" [CIIC.970; ECMW.13]) [HG.1: "Catman map Iacob"] [3]
  8. 20|524416. Iago, king of Gwynedd, d. ca. 616 [AC, which should only be considered approximate]. [Note: Since Iago apparently died only 18 years (or thereabouts) before his grandson Cadwallon, he was evidently elderly at the time. Thus, as has been pointed out on numerous occasions, there are chronological difficulties with accepting his traditional pedigree [HG.1: "... Iacob map Beli map Rhun map Mailcun ..."], which would make him the great-grandson of the famous Maelgwn Gwynedd, king of Gwynedd, and contemporary of Gildas, who is frequently dated to the middle of the sixth century (perhaps not correctly). Despite these doubts, the traditional genealogy of Iago is not absolutely impossible, even if Maelgwn died in the middle of the sixth century. Furthermore, since the AC obituary of Maelgwn has been convincingly shown to be a tenth century fabrication (see "Gildas and Maelgwn: Problems of Dating", by David N. Dumville, in Gildas: New Approaches (ed. Lapidge & Dumville, The Boydell Press), 51-9), it is not impossible that both Gildas and Maelgwn should be dated earlier in the sixth century, which would ease the chronological problems caused by the above genealogy. Thus, if a consensus should arise that the work of Gildas should be dated a generation or so earlier than it normally has been, the skeptical position on these earlier generations might have to be reevaluated.] [3]


Death

Death:
Date: 754[4][5]

(O)uen map (H)iguel map Catell map Rotri map Mermin map Etthil merch Cinnan map Rotri map Iutguaul map Catgualart map Catgollaun map Catman map Iacob map Beli map Run map Mailcun map Catgolaun Iauhir map Eniaun girt map Cuneda map Ætern map Patern Pesrut map Tacit map Cein map Guorcein map Doli map Guordoli map Dumn map Gurdumn map Amguoloyt map Anguerit map Oumun map Dubun map Brithguein map Eugein map Aballac map Amalach, qui fuit beli magni filius et Anna mater eius quam dicunt esse consobrina mariæ uirginis matris d’ni n’ri ih’u xp’i.[6]


Name

Name: Rhodri /Molwynog/[7]

Sources

  1. Source: #S155 Data: Text: Date of Import: Mar 6, 2002
  2. Source: #S156 Data: Text: Date of Import: Mar 12, 2002
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6 3.7 Stewart Baldwin. Llywelyn ap Iorwerth ancestor table First presented in GEN-MEDIEVAL/soc.genealogy.medieval
  4. Source: #S155 Data: Text: Date of Import: Mar 6, 2002
  5. Source: #S156 Data: Text: Date of Import: Mar 12, 2002
  6. Harleian genealogies 1: Gwynedd part 1, amb
  7. Ancestry.com Family Tree


  • WikiTree profile Molwynog-2 created through the import of Sara Betty Northrup_2011-07-29.ged on Jul 29, 2011 by Alexis Connolly. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Alexis and others.
  • Source: S155 Title: yalehenry.FTW NOTESource Medium: Other
  • Source: S156 Title: yaledavid.FTW NOTESource Medium: Other
  • Royal Line, The: Author: Albert F Schmuhl: Publication: Orig. March, 1929 NYC, NY - Rev. March 1980
  • Wikipedia entry for Rhodri Molwynog ap Idwal

Notes

Note N97
Rhodri ap Idwal (c. 690-c. 754; reigned from c. 720) (Latin: Rodericus; English: Roderick), also known as Rhodri Molwynog ('the Bald and Gray'), and by some contemporary historians as Rhodri I, was a king of Gwynedd, also called King of the Britons by the Annals of Wales.
The son of Idwal Iwrch and his wife, Princess Angharad of Brittany, comparatively little is known of Rhodri's life or accomplishments. There is even some debate as to when he actually assumed the throne of Gwynedd, with the years 712, 720, 722 or 730 being the most probable candidates. Legend suggests that Rhodri successfully invaded and occupied Dumnonia for a time, before being expelled by the Saxons. This story may indeed be apocryphal, and others have suggested that Rhodri instead focused on strengthening the island of Anglesey, which, by this time, had become the stronghold of the kingdom. This argument is based on the understanding that ®thelbald, king of Mercia and self-styled Bretwalda, was continuing to press the kingdoms of Wales, and that Rhodri would have been far more likely to have been forced to adopt a defensive, rather than offensive, policy in dealing with incursions from Mercia and other Anglo-Saxon principalities.
Rhodri married Margaret ferch Duplory, an Irish princess, who bore him a son by the name of Cynan Dindaethwy. Because of the limited reliable information surrounding this period in Welsh history, it is not entirely clear who succeeded Rhodri upon his death, although the most likely candidate seems to be Caradog ap Meirion, a distant cousin, and not his son, who would ascend to the throne only after the death of Caradog.


This is an adopted orphan profile I think all dates are questionable at this point in Wales - I have used dob & dod dates given in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kings_of_Wales_family_trees Which are probably as reliable as any Wendy Hampton Oct 2013 Smith-28671
This person was created on 21 March 2011 through the import of LJ Pellman Consolidated Family_2011-03-21.ged.
Molwynog-1 created through the import of WILLIAMS 2011.GED on Jun 22, 2011 by Ted Williams. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Ted and others.
This person was created through the import of master 11_12.ged on 21 October 2010. The following data was included in the gedcom.
Ap Idwal-21 created through the import of Terrass Family Tree.ged on Jul 7, 2011 by Richard Terrass. See the Idwal-21 Changes page for the details of edits by Richard and others.
UNKNOWN-128865 created through the import of My Family File.ged on Nov 16, 2011 by Lance Foster. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Lance and others.
Gwyned-2 created through the import of Spencer Family Tree 4 2002.GED on Nov 28, 2011 by Chet Spencer. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Chet and others.






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This ID has been removed from https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q310421 in favor of Ap Idwal-21. There cannot be two WikiTree IDs for one Wikidata person. We can correct the ID anytime, but there can be only one...
posted on Molwynog-2 (merged) by Karen Lowe
Ap Idwal-21 and Molwynog-2 appear to represent the same person because: both referenced at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q669275
posted on Molwynog-2 (merged) by Karen Lowe
Please note that this Rhodri Molwynog seems to be the same person as Rhodri ap Idwal (Ap_Idwal-21). See the "Notes" on the latter´s profile.
posted on Molwynog-2 (merged) by Alan Chisholm

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