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Christian Cyprian (Browne) Ames (1583 - 1625)

Christian Cyprian Ames formerly Browne
Born in Bruton, Somerset, Englandmap
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married 12 Oct 1601 in Bruton, Somerset, Englandmap
Descendants descendants
Mother of , , , and
Died at age 41 in Bruton, Somerset, Englandmap
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Biography

Christean Browne. [1]

Born 13 Jul 1583. Bruton, Somerset, , England. [2][3][4][5]

Baptism: 5 Aug 1585. St Saviour, Surrey, England. [6]

Marriage 12 Oct 1601. Bruton, Somerset, England. According to multiple sources, she had at least 4 children: Thomas, Henry, William and John.

Died 04 May 1625. Bruton, Somerset, England. [7][8]

Buried 02 Nov 1625. Laycock, Wiltshire, England. [9]

Research Notes

Please do not attach Christian as daughter of William Browne-1251. The relationship has been shown on WikiTree in the past but was severed: no good evidence has been found for her being his daughter. See Research Notes on William's profile.

This biography currently has a mix of information which clearly does not all relate to the same person.

Sources

  1. ↑ Source: #S-904018294 London Metropolitan Archives, St Saviour, Southwark, Composite register: baptisms, marriages, burials, 1 Mar 1570-10 Feb 1609, P92/SAV/3001
  2. ↑ Source: #S-904221956
  3. ↑ Source: #S-904391116 Source number: 275.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: DA3
  4. ↑ Source: #S-904391116 Source number: 1401.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: CCC
  5. ↑ Source: #S-904391116 Source number: 1423.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: PK2
  6. ↑ Source: #S-904018294 London Metropolitan Archives, St Saviour, Southwark, Composite register: baptisms, marriages, burials, 1 Mar 1570-10 Feb 1609, P92/SAV/3001
  7. ↑ Source: #S-904221956
  8. ↑ Source: #S1100309013
  9. ↑ Source: #S1100309013

P1. William P Brown Family Tree Christian Browne, born in Bruton, Somerset, England. Died 4May1625 in Bruton. Married John Ames 12 Oct 1601 in Bruton. Children are:

  1. Thomas (1602)
  2. Henry (1603)
  3. William (1605)
  4. John (1610)
  5. Marie (1613)

S1.Geni. Christian Ames (Browne), AKA: "Xpian", "Cypriam", was born 13Jul1583 in Bruton, Somerset, England. Died 4May1625 in Bruton. Wife of John Ames. Mother of Thomas, Henry, William, John, Amy Parmener and Mary.

S48. Source: S48 Author: Yates Publishing Title: U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900. Birth date: 1585 Birth place: En Marriage date: 1601 Marriage place: En.

S57. Source: S57 Author: Heritage Consulting Title: Millennium File. Birth date: 1580 Birth place: Bruton, Somerset, England Death date: 4 May 1625 Death place: Bruton, Somerset, Eng, England.

Notes

Source: S-904018294 Repository: #R-1274706077 London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 Ancestry.com Publication: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc. Repository: R-1274706077 Ancestry.com

Source: S-904264384 Repository: #R-1274706077 American Genealogical-Biographical Index (AGBI) Godfrey Memorial Library, comp. Publication: Ancestry.com Operations Inc

Source: S-904391116 Repository: #R-1274706077 U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Yates Publishing Publication: Ancestry.com Operations Inc

Source: S-904681126 Repository: #R-1274706077 Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members. Note: Ancestry Family Tree http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=42463438&pid=802

Source: S1100309013 Repository: #R-1274706077 England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991 Ancestry.com Publication: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.

See Also

Source: S-904221956 Repository: #R-1274706077 Millennium File Heritage Consulting Publication: Ancestry.com Operations Inc

Acknowledgments

1. Thank you to Jo Gessford for creating WikiTree profile Cyprian Browne-1 through the import of ames and all.ged on Jan 26, 2013.





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Thiessen-117 Traci Thiessen
William Browne was removed as father. There are no primary source vital records, such as parish registers, or older vetted, published English records that show Cyprian or Christian Browne were children of Knight William Browne and his undistinguished French wife Mary Savage. Additionally their marriage (25 Jan 1588) is several years after the reported birth of Christian and Cyprian. Online family trees, such as Geni, are not themselves appropriate sources. See Space:Magna Carta Project Reliable Sources. Christian Browne Ames emigrated to early Massachusetts and is well enough documented with Vital Records for her life events in America but none of those records name her parents.
posted by Traci Thiessen
edited by Traci Thiessen
Johnson-43462 Leigh Anne (Johnson) Dear
The name Cyprian has derived from a transcription from the original parish record in Bruton, Somerset. The name is spelled X (prob a shortening of Christ.) pian.
posted by Leigh Anne (Johnson) Dear
Johnson-43462 Leigh Anne (Johnson) Dear
As a direct descendant of this profile I make the following observation: The marriage between William Brown, Knt and Mary Savage (a French-woman of no notable birth) took place 25 Jan 1588 after the birth of this profile. Additionally, Douglass Richardson in Vol. IV of the Magna Carta Ancestry does not include the name of Christian or Cyprian Browne as offspring of William Brown, Knt. and Mary Savage Brown. He does include 6 children names including those Browne's who emigrate to Colonial Connecticut. Christian Browne Ames people emigrated to early Massachusetts, a very different type of colony at the founding era.
posted by Leigh Anne (Johnson) Dear
Drabold-8 David Drabold
The parents here are almost certainly incorrect. No evidence is given for this leap into the top aristocracy.
posted by David Drabold
Laurie Constantino
Browne-217 and Browne-2477 appear to represent the same person because: Same husband (spelled differently), same marriage date, same birth date, same son William with same birthdate.

I’d be very interested in documenting the parents as shown in Browne-217. If this is true, it makes William Browne a Gateway Ancestor to a Magna Carta Surety Baron (and makes Cyprian the aunt of documented Gateway Ancestor Nathaniel Brown). If it’s not true, the parents should be unlinked from Browne-217.

There are plenty of unsourced trees that tie Cyprian to William Browne-1251, however, there are others who say Cyprian's father William was born in Camus, France. I’d note most of the trees who link Browne-1251 to Cyprian say Browne-1251 was born in Bruton, Somerset.

Browne-1251 gives his birth location as Snelston, Derby and says his documented son Percy was born abt. 1604 in Flushing, Belgium (or alternately, in Vlissingen, Netherlands in 1602). Note, the Geni tree listed as a source for Browne-1251 says Percy was born in Snelston.

Although it’s not sourced, the Biography for Browne-1251 says his marriage “to an unnamed French woman” (Mary Savage or an earlier wife?) was in 1588, in other words, five years after the birth of Cyprian.

I can find no connection between Cyprian and Snelston. The records I’ve found show her only in Bruton.

posted by Laurie Constantino
Bob Tonsmeire
Cyprian Browne-1 and Browne-217 appear to represent the same person because: Same name, same dates, same father, same husband
posted by Bob Tonsmeire
Lewis-10266 Michael Lewis
Browne-217 and Browne-244 appear to represent the same person because: all data is identical. Please merge these profiles and explore any differences in the biography.
posted by Michael Lewis

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