John
Lane
Born before in Bertie, North Carolina
Ancestors 
Son of Joseph Lane Esq.
and Patience (Mckinnie) Lane
Husband of
Mary (Unknown) Lane
— married
[date unknown] [location unknown]
Died before
at about age 62
in Halifax
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Dorothy Coltrin 
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Biography
John, son of Joseph Lane and Patience McKinnie[1] was born before 1715 in Bertie County, NC. [2]
There are land deeds in 1736 for John son of Joseph and Patience Lane. So he is at least 21 in 1736.
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Evidence for John Lane is his recording for an animal mark in Edgecombe County in 1738. He is referred to as John, son of Joseph Lane, Jr. This means that his grandfather Joseph Lane Sr was still alive.[3]
John m. Mary Unknown about 1745 in Edgecombe, NC.
Land Patents and Deeds
1740 "Joseph Lane of Edgecombe (1700-1777) gave with affection to his son John Lane a parcel of land (338 ac) near George Goodwin. [4]. His father had received this previously.
1755 Deed of Gift: from Joseph Lane Esq. (abt. 1700 - bef. 1777) to daughters of John Lane viz Ann Lane, Mary Lane & Patience Lane.[5] Witnessed by sons of Joseph Lane Esq., viz Joseph Lane & James Lane both mentioned in Joseph Lane Esq.'s Will.
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John LANE, was his mothers heir and inherited half of her estate. Halifax County Court on 12 Aug 1755 John Lane of the Province of Georgia, heir at law of Patience Lane, to Joseph Lane of Edgecombe for £400, all houses, barns, mills, stable, that fell to me by my grandfather’s Will with 300 acres to his son John McKinnie and the remaining part to his 2 daughters Patience Lane & Morning Pope.[6]
In 1760 John Lane, son of Patience and Joseph Lane, submits a petition about his inherited land in Halifax, North Carolina and calls himself of the county of Craven in the province of South Carolina.[7]
11 May 1764; John Lane to Joel Lane (John Lane's lawfully appointed power attorney on 7 Feb 1764) concerning 683 acres. He worked with his brothers James Lane and Joel Lane to sell his Halifax county precinct property in 1764/1765 and calls himself of the county of Craven in the province of South Carolina. His brother James Lane of the county of Halifax in the province of North Carolina was lawful power of attorney who completed the land sale for John. The land sold was located in County of Halifax in the province of North Carolina, situated on the south side of the Conaconary Swamp.[1]
11 May 1764; John Lane (age 40) to Joel Lane (John Lane's lawfully appointed power attorney on 7 Feb 1764) concerning 683 acres. He worked with his brothers James Lane and Joel Lane to sell his Halifax county precinct property in 1764/1765 and calls himself of the county of Craven in the province of South Carolina. His brother James Lane of the county of Halifax in the province of North Carolina was lawful power of attorney who completed the land sale for John. The land sold was located in County of Halifax in the province of North Carolina, situated on the south side of the Conaconary Swamp.[8]
John Lane of Craven County in the Province of South Carolina[9] to Joel Lane of Halifax Town in the Province of North Carolina[10][11]
Petitions John Lane of the Province of South Carolina and son of Patience Lane makes a petition in 1760 concerning the land he inherited from his mother.[12]
Children
- John Lane (c. 1720-1766), died before his father and so he is not in the will.
- Ann (Lane) Everard, (abt.1724-aft.1774)
- Olive (Lane) Joyner (abt.1726-aft.1830)
- Patience (Lane) Joyner (abt.1728-1785)
- Mourning Lane, (abt.1732-aft.1774)
- David Lane (abt. 1734-1790), Married Ann Joyner, a sister of the husbands of Olive and Patience.
- Julian Lane, (abt.1734-aft.1774)
- Mary (Lane) Pittman, (abt.1736-abt.1811)
- Keziah (Lane) McKinnie (abt.1736-)
History of Craven County, South Carolina
- From 1664 to 1768 this original Craven County was never surveyed or properly laid out. Its boundaries were ambiguous and changed over time. Its county government never became functional. Most records were kept at the parish level; none were kept at the county level. There was no county seat. There were no political connotations to the county's existence. In this case the term "county" had no meaning other than to describe an approximate geographical area. It was a county in name only.[13]
- Craven County was abolished in 1768.
it would be helpful to look at Family Search description of Craven County. There is a good discussion regarding the Parish system used between 1664-1768. As Marion county is in Prince Frederick Parish, it would be helpful to review all of the records of this parish.
Will
will.[14]
- JOHN LANE:
- grandson DAVID LANE plantation and Land whereon I now live, slaves, stock, etc,
- daughters OLIVE JOYNER, ANN EVERARD, KEZIAH MCKINNIE, PATIENCE JOYNER and MARY PITTMAN 25 pounds each
- daughters MOURNING LANE and JULIAN (sic) LANE negroe each
- son DAVID LANE 400 acres on Deep creek, negroes and residue of my estate.
- Witnesses: MCKINNIE HOWELL, DAVID SUMNER
- Executer: son DAVID LANE
- Written: 13 Feb 1774
- Probated: May Ct. 1776[15]
Genealogical Abstracts of Wills 1758-1824, Halifax County, North Carolina,
No will has been found for John Lane b. 1724. It is very likely that John stayed in Craven County, SC and died there.
Y-chromosome DNA for group 11 of FTDNA Lane surname project shows a match for 2 descendants of Osborn Lane b. 1755 and those descendants of Joseph Lane b. 1700 of Edgecombe County, NC.
According to SC Colonial Plat BK in Craven County, 1770 William Hull had 552 acres of property surveyed on SW side of Great Pee Dee River, bounded on side of Mr. “Laine”. S213184 SC Archives 1770. As Osborne Lane livednnear the Pee Dee River, it is very likely that Mr "Laine" is John Lane b. 1724.
Research Notes
ALTERNATIVE PROFILE for John Lane (Lane-2468)
As there is conflict as to the profile of John Lane (Lane-11307), son of Joseph Lane and Julian and John (Lane-2468), son of Joseph Lane and Patience McKinnie. This profile shows the research done to prove both birth date and last place of residence of the younger John. This is evidence that there were two men by the name of John with wives named Mary and 2 children of the same names: Ann and Patience. John Lane (Lane-11307) spent his whole life in NC, mainly in Edgecombe, later called Halifax. While his nephew John Lane (Lane-2468) was born in North Carolina, but by 1760 he had moved to South Carolina.
RESEARCH
John Lane (1724-bef 1771), Son of Joseph Lane and Patience McKinnie
To give context to this profile:
1720 Joseph Lane, Sr (and wife Julian) arrived in Chowan County, NC with sons John b. 1698, Joseph b. 1700, Benjamin b. 1702 & Thomas b. 1704. (1) 1721 Barnabus McKinne arrived in Chowan where son Joseph b. 1700 and Patience b. abt 1705 met and married. (2)
1724 Joseph Lane, Jr w/ wife Patience had son John. (3) 1738 John (age 14) registered his animal mark. He is referred to as John Lane, son of Joseph Lane, Jr. (4) 1740 John (age 16) was given property by his father Joseph Lane. (5) 1755 John (age 31) was in GA when father Joseph gave a slave to his wife Mary and daus: Ann, Mary & Patience and Patience Lane gave her son John Lane part of McKinne property (6)
12 Aug 1755 John Lane of GA sold to his father Joseph Lane the property that he received from his mother. (7) 7 May 1760 John Lane of SC petitioned Halifax court regarding the land he had received. (8) 7 Feb 1764 John Lane of Craven County, SC appointed his brother James Lane of Halifax to sell property and 11 May 1764 John Lane of Craven County, SC sold his property to his brother Joel. (9)
(NOTE 1761 John Lane, uncle to this John was a witness for Solomon Pope being granted Granville Property. John b. 1724 could NOT be in NC while he was in GA/SC (10))
1760-1764 John, son of Joseph was in SC. He is likely that he stayed in SC as by 1764 he had sold all of his Edgecombe and Halifax property.
Bef 1777, John probably died as his father Joseph Lane did not mention him in his will. No will has been found for John Lane in SC. However a 1770 SC survey for a William Hull of Pee Dee River mentioned a Mr Laine. (Osborn of Pee Dee River b, 1755 would be too young to own property.) (11)
Y-chromosome DNA evidence for two descendants of Osborn Lane (1755-1840) of SC match the other descendants of Joseph Lane and the descendants of Benjamin Lane and Thomas Lane. (12) No other Lane family members from those of John b. 1698. Benjamin b. 1702 and Thomas b. 1704 have been found in in GA/SC from 1755-1764 besides John Lane, son of Joseph and Patience.
Sources
- ↑ https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Petition_concerning_the_Estate_of_Barnaby_McKinnie
- ↑ The colonial records of North Carolina, Author: William Laurence Saunders. Publisher: Raleigh : P.M. Hale etc. state printer, 1886. Pages: 745 to 747.' No Copyright, Public Domain.'
- ↑ http://www.ncgenweb.us/franklin/brands/brands.html
- ↑ County Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions: Halifax vol 1 p.354, Image 198/497
- ↑ Halifax Deed BK 2 pages 211-212
- ↑ Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions: Halifax Deed BK 2 page 319.
- ↑ https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99DD-6DKT?i=376&cat=328729
- ↑ https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99DD-6DKT?i=376&cat=328729
- ↑ https://www.carolana.com/SC/Royal_Colony/sc_royal_colony_counties_parishes_1760.html
- ↑ https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99DD-6DGR?i=341&cat=328729 Page 168 + 169
- ↑ Deeds 1732-1934; Deeds Vol 8-10; 1761-1770
- ↑ https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Petition_concerning_the_Estate_of_Barnaby_McKinnie
- ↑ A History of the Craven County - One of the Three Original Counties of Carolina" in South Carolina
- ↑ Will of John Lane
- ↑ Genealogical Abstracts of Wills 1758-1824, Halifax County, North Carolina, Margaret M. Hoffmann, Weldon, North Carolina, The Roanoke News Company, c1970. (FHL Call #975.648 P2h) Will #226, pg 32
- History of Halifax Co., North Carolina: Halifax county was formed in 1758 from Edgecombe County which in turn was formed in 1741 from Bertie County which in turn was formed as Bertie Precinct in 1722 from the part of Chowan Precinct of Albemarle County lying west of the Chowan River
- https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/records/item/298788-the-thigpen-tribe?offset=7 The Thigpen Tribe
See also; Author: John Bennett Boddie. Publisher: Genealogical Publishing Com, 1966. Page: 295. THERE ARE ERRORS IN THIS BOOK, A SECONDARY SOURCE. BETTER TO USE PRIMARY SOURCES AS LISTED.
- FamilySearch Layne - Lain - Lane genealogy: being a compilation of names and historical information of male descendants of sixteen branches of the Layne-Lain- Lane family in the United States, gathered from legal records and other available sources, ompiled and published by Floyd Benjamin Layne, pub. Los Angeles, California : The Bookman Press, 1962, page 247-249 digital copy here, google books copy here. AGAIN< THERE ARE ERRORS iIN THIS BOOK: BE CAREFUL.
1) Ancestry.com. NC Taxpayers, 1679-1790 (vol 2) where all five men are listed as taxpayers in Chowan (or Roanoke) counties. (These ages are estimated, but they had to be at least 16 to be taxed.)
2) Barnabus McKinne supposedly arrived in NC by 1721 https://www.ncpedia.org/biography/mckinne-barnabas
3) An estimate of a birth date of John Lane, son of Joseph Lane and Patience McKinne is based on 1) arrival of the McKinne family in Chowan County (1721), 2) a 1 May 1725 deed in Bertie County NC DB, B, p.145, for Joseph Lane and wife Patience, so that they had to be married by this time and 3) the known ages of two of his brothers: Jesse Lane b. 1733 & Joel Lane b. 1739.
4) Book of Animal marks has John Lane, son of Joseph, Jr: See http://www.ncgenweb.us/franklin/brands/brands.html This is the evidence of his connection to his father, and that his grandfather Joseph Lane was still alive.
5) 1740 “Joseph Lane of Edgecombe (1700-1777) giving with affection to my son John Lane” a parcel of land (338 ac) near Geo Goodwin FS 7547218 Halifax vol. 1, 354 (image 198/497)
6) 19 Feb 1755 Joseph Lane of Edgecombe gave to daughters of John Lane: Ann, Mary & Patience and to wife of John Lane, Mary a slave w/ sons of Joseph Lane: Joseph Lane and James Lane as witnesses, Halifax FS # 7547218 DB 2, p. 211 (image 356/497) Witnesses had to be at least 14, thus both sons b. bef 1731.
7) 12 Aug 1755 John Lane of GA sold the property that he has received from his mother Patience Lane to his father, Joseph Lane of Edgecombe Halifax FS#547218 DB 2, p. 319 (image 416-417/497)
8) https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Petition_concerning_the_Estate_of_Barnaby_McKinnie; Petition of John Lane of SC “To enable him to make provision of a numerous family of young children” from http://www.ncgenweb.us/halifax/family/mckinnie.htm
9) Halifax FS # 7547221 DB 9, p. 237, p.168-169 (image 356/ 872) (image 342/872)
10) 3 Nov 1761 Solomon Pope granted 700 ac in Edgecombe with John Lane as witness, “Grants of Granville District of NC”, abstracted by Margaret Hoffman, Patent BK II, 1046-248
11) SC Archives Colonial Plat Book in Craven County, SC 1770 William Hull with 552 acres of property surveyed on SW side of Great Pee Dee River, bounded on side of Mr Laine, S213184
12) group 11 of https://www.familytreedna.com/public/lane?iframe=ycolorized
NOTE: “Southside VA Families,” Vol 2 by Boddie (found at Google) p. 295 is incorrect. John Lane, oldest son of Patience McKinne and Joseph Lane did receive property from his mother Patience. But he did NOT write a will in Halifax, NC.
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Categories: Chowan County, North Carolina
Duplicates must stop being made for the Lanes and connecting families as the have been for the past few years in an effort to gain management of profiles. Removing and reassigning profile must stop. Simply asking questions on g2g dose not give licence to do so especially if its shown there are problems. https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1004158/advice-before-adding-child-of-this-pre-1700-lane-profile David Lane was moved and added to Lane-11307 ignoring requested advice.
Also there are land deeds in 1736 for John son of Joseph and Patience Lane. So he is at least 21 in 1736.
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edited by David Douglass
edited by [Living Daly]
Halifax Deed BK 2, Pages 211-212.
1755 Deed of Gift: from Joseph Lane Esq. (abt. 1700 - bef. 1777) to daughters of John Lane viz Ann Lane, Mary Lane & Patience Lane. Witnessed by sons of Joseph Lane Esq., viz Joseph Lane & James Lane both mentioned in Joseph Lane Esq.'s Will.
edited by [Living Daly]
Four brothers came to Chowan area in 1720: John, Joseph, Benjamin and Thomas. This John m. Mary in abt 1718, had 2 sons John (1720-1766) & David (1720-1790), lived in this area, later called Halifax and left a will in 1774, listing his one son David Lane (1722-1790), the other son John Lane b. 1720 d. abt 1766. Joseph Lane, a brother, m. Pateince McKinnie in abt 1723. Their first son John Lane (1724 to bef 1777) m. a Mary, moved to SC before 1760 and there are 4 documents that show that he was in SC betweem these dates. The most telling evidence that there were 2 John Lanes, one in Edgecombe (later called Halifax) and another in SC is a 1761 document where Solomon Pope received Granville property where John Lane is the witness. There is no way one person can be in these 2 places. (I have the reference for this last document if you want it.) Thanks for your help.
I have not verified any dates as yet, so putting that to the side temporarily, are we agreed that the above information for Lane-2468 John Lane appears to be correct ? I will address Lane-11307 John Lane separately
edited by David Douglass
John Lane who b. abt 1724 did receive a deed of gift from father Joseph Lane. He also wrote a Petition in 1760 from South Carolina, He did NOT write a will in 1776. This will was written by his uncle John Lane b. 1698.
I can not account for all of the children of John Lane (1698-1776) But there is a will for son John Lane b. abt 1720 who died and 1766 and gave his estate to his father John (note this is not Joseph). Son David Lane (1722-1790) wrote a Will in Halifax, not in SC. Lastly daughter Mary Lane m. Samuel Pitman in Halifax. According to Find A Grave, Sam'l b. in 1736 and Mary was probably b. abt the same time. ( Mary b. 1736 could not be the child of John Lane b. 1724.)
Lastly, the sibllings of John Lane b. 1724 are Barnabus b. 1728 Joseph b. 1732, Jesse b. 1733, James b. 1737, Joel b. 1739. These are the dates of children of Joseph Lane b. 1700 and Patience McKinnie and first cousins to the children of John Lane b. 1698 and d. 1777: John Lane, Ann Everett,Mary Pittman, Mourning Lane, David Lane, Olive Joyner, Patience Joyner and Keziah McKinnie. Again there are 2 Johns, one who arrive in NC abou 1720 and the second one, son of Joseph Lane and Patience McKinnie who was b. in NC about 1724.
For me, at this point, the question is not that there are two John Lanes or the relationship between them. I understand that you are saying that John Lane b abt 1698 is the uncle of John Lane b abt 1824 The question I am raising is whether John Lane Lane-2468 and John Lane Lane-11307 might be duplicate profiles. You responded no, Eric responded yes. What I am seeing is that there are some marked similarities between the two profiles.
The relationships of each John to their parents is the one difference that indicates that there may be two John Lanes that we are dealing with. However, If we are dealing with two John Lanes, one the uncle and one the nephew, then the information contained within the profile regarding dates, places, spouses and children should also be different. That is not the case. So, there are two possibilities, one, that the biographical information may be incorrect and, or that the parental relationships are incorrect. The first thing that should be resolved is the question, are these two profiles meant to be the same person. Dorothy, your response was no, they are not duplicates, they are different people. Eric's response was that yes, they are duplicates and the parental relationships in one profile is in question.
At this point I have only examined the profile of John Lane Lane-2468 and based on the sources that I previously mentioned it appears that the information contained in that profile, including children and parental relationships are correct. We should now attempt to verify the parent-child relationships for John Lane Lane-11307 to see if those relationships are supported by the evidence presented.
edited by David Douglass
(I created a timeline, but this program didn't allow me to transfer the word document to this platform. So I am going to give you the most important points.)
1720 Joseph Lane, Sr (w/ wife Julian) arrived in Chowan with 4 sons: John b. 1698, Joseph b. 1700, Benjamin b. 1702 & Thomas b. 1704.
1720 Barnabus McKinnie arrived in Chowan where Joseph and Patience met and married. ( I have suggested a birthdate of 1724 for their son John, but it could have been later as the other known birthdates for 2 other sons are Jesse in 1733 and Joel is 1739. There is no way that John Lane, son of Joseph and Patience was b. 1701!)
1755-1764 John, son of Joseph and Patience was in GA/SC. During this time period a John Lane was a witness in a Granville/Edgecombe grant. So it is not possible for the same person to be in 2 different places.
Lastly Y-chromosome DNA of 2 descendants of Osborn Lane (1755-1840) of SC match the other descendants of Joseph and the descendants of Benjamin and Thomas. I have found no other Lane family members who were in GA?SC from 1755-1764 besides John Lane, son of Joseph and Patience.
edited by Dorothy Coltrin
1) He was b.in 1724 in Chowan County, NC (not VA)
2) He registered his animals in 1738 in Edgecombe at the age of 14
3) He received Edgecombe property from his father in 1740 at the age of 16
4) He married a Mary before 1755, probably in Edgecombe. He likely married at the age of 20 to 25, so between he married between 1744 and 1749. He had 3 children: Ann, Mary, and Patience before 1755
5) He was in GA along with his family in 1755
6) He was in SC along with his family in 1760 to at least 1764
7) As by 1764, he had sold all of his Halifax property, but there are no more documetns for him. So it is unclear as to where he was after that time, however:
8) Y-chromosome DNA data for 2 descendants of Osborn Lane of Marion County, SC, b. abt 1755 d. 1840 match the other 8 men who descend from Joseph Lane and Julian. So it is very likely that John Lane, son of Patience McKinnie stayed in SC and had a son by the name of Osborn. (Curiously Osborn names his first 3 sons: John, Joseph and Thomas...names of his possible father, grandfather and great-great grandfather.)
Please review the reply that I sent to Eric and this reply. Thank you for taking the time to investigate this. The profile has bothered me for a long time.
edited by Dorothy Coltrin
Further on the 1st of may 1744 John Lane deeded land in Edgecombe province of North Carolina to his son David. Land John Lane purchased of Benjamin Joyner. But you already know this but not mentioned it on WikiTree https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/lane/8391/
Everyone assumes Joseph Lane and Patience McKinnie were born around 1700 and there are documents showing they were husband and wife before 1718.
edited by [Living Daly]
Records for this John Lane per William Laurence Saunders Primary Records "Colonial Records of North Carolina are pre Revolutinary War.
This map is after the Revolutionary War.
Please bear in mind there wasn't just 2 John Lanes in the Carolinas.
The various documents that state that John Lane, son of Joseph Lane and Patience McKinnie was in Craven County, South Carolina by 1760 and in 1764 and (probably remained there the rest of his life) is what is given and I take that as fact. (I can give you the images from Family Search if you want to look at them.) They said it was South Carolina.
Secondly, I have no problem with Halifax DB vol 2 p.145 where on 1 May 1754 where John Lane Sr. of Edgecombe County sold to his son David Lane 525 ac (The property was originally bought by John Lane from Benjamin Joyner 20 May 1746). Note the Senior given to John Lane, this means he is the elder John Lane, b. 1698, not his son John b.1720, nor possibly his nephew John b. 1724, son of Joseph Lane and Patience. It also shows some connection to the Joyner family. We know that two of this John’s daughters married Joyners.
Remember John Lane, son of Joseph Lane and Julian bought property of Urah Swamp in 1719. But he couldn’t sell the property until he was 21. So, in 1723 he and his wife Mary sold the 450 ac property to John Dickinson and to John Cook. Bertie DB A, p. 51, p. 69. Then in 1724 Barnaby McKinnie sold John Lane 150 ac on the SS of Conocanara Swamp. This John also bought 78 ac of SS of Roanoke from Joseph Hale in 1736 and 240 ac on SS Roanoke River, near the Conoconary Swamp from Walter Turbeville in 1739. So, with the property he had bought from Benjamin Joyner in 1746, he had almost 1000 ac. I can understand how David Lane in 1782, after the death of his father was taxed on more than 1000 ac of land. Most of which he had received as heir.
Thirdly, I don’t have any evidence of Joseph Lane, Junior marrying Patience McKinnie before 1718. Please give me your references.
All I have is Jos Jr receiving 600 ac in Urah Woods in 1720 and then buying 250 ac along the SS of the Roanoke from Barnaby McKinnie in 1723 and 330 ac along the SS of the Roanoke from Joseph Sims 1724. My date for his son, John Lane’s birth of 1724 is based on the fact the Jos Jr and Patience sold 50 ac to Robt House, along a line between Joseph Sr and Jos Jr. Again he had to be at least 21 to sell property. My other reason for the birth date is based on the dates of his brothers: Barnabas b. 1728, Joseph b. 1732, Jesse b. 1733, James b. 1737 and Joel b. 1739.
We have documents showing Joseph and Patience Lane as having a son John who married a Mary.
Please shown proof of Joseph and Julian as having a son John. That is at least one primary source naming a mother "Julian".
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See NC Taxpayers, 1679-1790 vol 2, p. 120 (https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/49269/) with Joseph Lane, Sr (1669-1738) and his 4 sons: John (1698-1776), Joseph (1700-1777), Benjamin (1702-1789) and Thomas (1704-1778). These dates make all of these men past 16, a taxable age. No other men by the Lane name are in this area at this time period.
I have Y-chromosome data for descendants of Joseph (1700-1777), Benjamin and Thomas that all match and can all be traced back with documented evidence to these men.
The first date where I find John Lane (1698-1776), son of Joseph (and Julian) is in 1717 when at the age of 19, he is a witness to John & Alice Bryan of Chowan Co selling to Henry Roads of VA (See Chowan DB B, vol 1 p. 1562 from Hofman, Chowan Prect, NC 1696-1723 (1972)) (He would have to be at least 14 to be a witness)
He had children, including his 2 sons John b. 1720 and David b. abt 1722-1730 An earlier discussion lists his land documents and his Halifax will.
The first land deed for Joseph Lane, Jr is in 1720 when he received 600 ac near Urah Woods in Chowan Prect, joining the property of father Joseph Lane Sr and Lazarus Whitehead on the East side of Quarter Swamp. See Hoffman, Abst of Land Patents, Patent BK 3, page 15, #1602.
I doubt that Joseph Lane, Jr married Patience McKinnie prior to 1721. Barnabus McKinnie was not in the Chowan area until about 1721. (See https://www.ncpedia.org/biography/mckinne-barnabas) So this means that their eldest child John Lane (1724-bef 1777) couldn’t have been born prior to this date. I have known dates of two other sons of Joseph Lane and Patience McKinnie: Jesse b. 1733 and Joel b. 1739. It is highly unlikely that John would have been b. in 1701! As I have Patience’s name on a land deed of 1725, I have used the date of 1724 as a birthdate of this John Lane, (This fits in line with the age of 14 (1738) when John, son of Joseph Lane, Jr registered his animals and the age of 16 (1740) when he received his first property in Edgecombe from his father,(However if you want to make John Lane, son of Joseph and Patience b. a little later such as 1726, and thus received animals at age 16 and land at 18, that would be OK with me.)
I think that creating a timeline for these two John Lanes make very good sense to me. Thank you for your help.
Deed of Gift from Joseph Lane Esq to daughters of John Lane viz Ann Lane, Mary Lane & Patience Lane. Witnessed by sons of Joseph Lane-1660, viz Joseph Lane & James Lane both mentioned in Joseph Lane-1660 Will.
There are also deeds from Patience McKinnie to the Joyners. All John's children where once attached to him.
Please notice the duplicate of this Profile, John Lane has the daughters listed in the deed above attached as his children.
John Lane 11171 into John Lane 2468.
Might you two be able to agree on a third party you could hand this over to, for resolution?
Is there a project lead/team you both feel OK about, for example, who could lead the work going forward rather than you two continue stonewalling each other?
Respectfully, Your cousin in California
Respectfully, a suggestion:
Given the apparent history of disagreement and non-resolution, perhaps the current profile managers should find a suitable third part (perhaps a project team?) to entrust these profiles to-- and remove themselves and the emotions/dysfucntion from the equation.
Because this history -- these Lane profiles -- do not "belong" to anyone, including their creators or current profile managers. They belong to the entire WikiTree community, and to posterity. If there is an unresolved dispute about the history, that should be addressed on the ONE merged profile.
In 1734/35 a portion of Prince George Parish was created as Prince Frederick's Parish. Then in 1757 a portion of Prince Frederick was divided to form the Parish of St Marks. According to SC Archives Judgement Roll, 1768, Box 79 A, 302, John Lane of St Mark's Parish was being sued by John Neufville. Apparently John and John Pittman had borrowed money in 1765. The judgement required payment of this loan. Please look at the map of South Carolina Counties and Parishes for 1760 for the position of St Mark's Parish in Craven County.