John Saunders
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John Saunders (abt. 1613 - bef. 1643)

John Saunders
Born about in Englandmap [uncertain]
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married before 1640 (to 1643) [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Father of
Died before before about age 30 in Salem, Essex, Massachusettsmap
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The Puritan Great Migration.
John Saunders migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640). (See The Directory, by R. C. Anderson, p. 295)
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Disambiguation

  • A. John Sanders: Unknown; 1622; Wessagusset (Weymouth [GMB 1525]. Sent to Massachusetts Bay by Thomas Weston and left in charge during the winter of 1622/3. No known children. No Wikitree profile.
  • B. John Sanders (this profile): Unknown; 1636; Salem; m. Elizabeth Grafton; d. 1643 [TEG 23:229-35]
  • C. John Sanders: Unknown; 1638; Salisbury; Married Hester Rolfe; Returned to England 1655. [TEG 23:229-35]
  • D. John Saunders: Unknown; 1634; Ipswich, Hampton, Wells, Cape Porpus; m. Ann d. 1670 [GM 2:6: 165-71]
  • E. John Saunders Unknown; 1639; Piscataqua. Mentioned in the will of Jonathan Weymouth [GDMNH 606]. No Wikitree profile.
  • F. John Sanders of Lynn died intestate. Admin granted 28 June 1670. Inventory 29 Nov 1670. No Wikitree profile. Essex County Probate 2:193 ($)
  • The John Saunders married to Alice Coles is not any of these men.

John, spouse of Elizabeth Grafton

John of Salem, Massachusetts, who married Elizabeth Grafton.[1]

John Sanders of unknown origins was in New England in 1636, settled in Salem, Massachusetts. [2]

A previous version of this profile claimed, without source, that he was born 26 March 1613 in Dainton Parish, Wiltshire, England.

On the first list of communicants of the First Church of Salem (before the 1636 designation) John Sanders. He died. Elizabeth Sanders was admitted 10 3rd month (May) 1640. As Elizabeth Kitchen she was excommunicated. The footnote says: John Kitchen married c. 1643 Elizabeth (Grafton) Saunders, widow of John Saunders (citing Cf. Perley II 135. [3]

From the original Salem town records Dec 26, 1636 to July 12, 1637.
Jn. Sanders, freeman, a grant of 40. to 9. He also received other grants.[4]

John m. Elizabeth Grafton about 1638 in Salem, she was the daughter of Joseph and Mary (Moore) Grafton of Southhold.[1]

At a Court held at Salem 31:10: 1639 John Sanders was chosen as a juryman[5]

1641 Deputy.[1] Is this correct? Primary record not found.

"The Last wil & testament of John Sanders, inhabytant of the Towne of Salem, I bequeath unto my sonn John Sandars my Tenn Aker lot with my hous new built on the Commons side right over a gainst it when he Come to the age of one & twentie yeers or at the death of his mother with the Aker And halfe of middow ground adioyning to it and I do be trust my father Joseph Graften & goodman Hardie to see this my wil & ded performed mad in the yeere 1643 ye 28 of October." [no signature]
Witness: Nathaniell Porter, Henrye Birdsall.
"Testified upon oaths in Court & also yt the sd Jno Sandrs Left all the Rest of is Estate to his wyfe." Proved 28: 10: 1643. Salem Quarterly Court Files vol. I leaf 18.[6]

Child:

John Sanders was bpt at Salem Nov 1 1640.[1][3] John m. Hannah Pickman.[1]

Sources

  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 Sanders, Barbara Brett. "The Three John Sanders Who Came to Essex County, MA in the 1630s" The Essex Genealogist 23: 229. Link at AmericanAncestors ($)
  2. ↑ Anderson, Robert Charles. Great Migration Directory (The). Immigrants to New Englnad, 1620-1640. A Concise Compendium. (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2015.) p. 295. Recccomended srcs: STR 1:20; SChr 6, 9; EPR 1:26; EQC 1:14; TEG 23:229-35
  3. ↑ 3.0 3.1 The Records of the First Church in Salem 1629-1736. John p. 6; Elizabeth p. 9; John Jr. p 18 :SChR 6, 9:
  4. ↑ Town Records of Salem Massachusetts] (The Essex Institute, Salem, Mass., 1934) Vol 1 p. 20 Also see p 26, 103, 108, 111,  :STR 1:20:
  5. ↑ Massachusetts. County Court (Essex Co.). Records And Files of the Quarterly Courts of Essex County, Massachusetts. Volume I 1636-1656. Salem, Mass.: Essex institute, 1911. p. 14 :EQC 1:14:
  6. ↑ "The Probate Records of Essex County, Vol 1 p. 26 Essex County, MA: Early Probate Records, 1635-1681.Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2015. Link at AmericanAncestors ($) :EPR1:26:
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B-404 Anne B
Saunders-9761 and Saunders-6518 appear to represent the same person because: Both deceased the same day, same place, b. in England (no specific place.)
posted by Anne B
B-404 Anne B
Saunders-9445 and Saunders-6518 do not represent the same person because: Saunders-9445 is not known to be the deceased of Salem in 1643
posted by Anne B
B-404 Anne B
Saunders-9445 and Saunders-9761 do not represent the same person because: Saunders-9445 (bpt 1613) is not known to be the deceased of Salem in 1643
posted on Saunders-9761 (merged) by Anne B
B-404 Anne B
This John seems to be a little confused. A John Saunders-419 came in the Confidence. A different [[Saunders-6518|John Saunders left a will in Salem. As far as I know neither of these Johns was the father of James. James' father is unknown according to families of Salisbury . The history of Haverhill p. 207 in the footnote : "John Sanders, the first of that name in this town, was from Weeks, in the Parish of Dainton, County of Wilts, England. He made his will in 1670. The above-named James, was, we believe, a son to the first John." This History also has some confusion. There isn't a will on record 1670 for John Sanders. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9Y5-1ZKG?i=112&cat=412735 James' is in the index. The John was was from Dainton, Wilts. left New England in 1654. His children were recorded in Salisbury and Newbury, He didn't have a James.

Anyway James should be disconnected.

posted on Saunders-9761 (merged) by Anne B
Smith-32867 Jillaine Smith
Saunders-6518 and Saunders-8630 appear to represent the same person because: Let's try this again; I've generalized the birth info on 6518. As these both represent the husband of the same woman, they need to be merged; all other data is the same. Note: we will need source for the origins on 8630.
posted on Saunders-8630 (merged) by Jillaine Smith
James Edge
Saunders-8630 and Saunders-6518 do not represent the same person because: John Saunders was from Buckinghamshire not Wiltshire
posted by James Edge
Smith-40964 Philip Smith
Saunders-8630 and Saunders-6518 appear to represent the same person because: Please review these potential duplicates.

NOTE - parents should probably be removed based on sources provided, but rest of detail is the same.

posted by Philip Smith
B-404 Anne B
So I'm thinking the Ancestry trees took John of Buckinghamshire and gave him wife, Elizabeth Grafton, who is really married to a man in Massachusetts. Also seems they've borrowed the Massachusetts guy's alleged parents, (They aren't really the Massachusetts guys parents.) This needs to be reconciled. Objections to my disconnecting incorrect wife and parents?
posted on Saunders-8630 (merged) by Anne B
B-404 Anne B
I've done some looking. the son: a John Sanders was born this day in Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire to John Sanders and unnamed wife. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J3F5-PHC : 11 February 2018, John Sanders, 07 Jan 1640); citing , index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 919,220. There are several marriages for this John that would fit search
posted on Saunders-8630 (merged) by Anne B
B-404 Anne B
I would suggest you check your unsourced family tree. Start with the son of this profile. His birthplace is inconsistent with John and Elizabeth Kitchin whose son was born in Salem, Massachusetts. Did he have a father John? What was the birth and death of that John? Who was his wife? the mother of Saunders-8629?
posted on Saunders-8630 (merged) by Anne B
B-404 Anne B
Saunders-8630 and Saunders-6518 are not ready to be merged because: There's a mess up here. The sons John are not the same people. John son of -8630 was b. in England and has a different wife.
posted by Anne B
Aldrich-908 Cheryl (Aldrich) Skordahl
Saunders-8630 and Saunders-6518 appear to represent the same person because: b & d similar. same wife.
posted by Cheryl (Aldrich) Skordahl
Pyne-84 Nina Pyne
I am totally amazed at the work you've done on these various John Sanders/Saunders. I will make the changes that you recommend, and then I think you should take charge of these profiles to keep them untangled.
posted by Nina Pyne
B-404 Anne B
Now that I cautiously believe I have the various John Saunders sorted out. I think this one should be disconnected from these parents. John and Alice definitely had a son John, but we don't know that John migrated and we don't know which of the several choices he was. Alice (Coles) Saunders seems to have left a legacy. There is some speculation that the son John was John m. to Hester Rolfe
posted by Anne B
[Living Snyder]
https://www.anamericanfamilyhistory.com/Saunders%20Family/SaundersJohn1640.html
posted by [Living Snyder]
B-404 Anne B
Priscilla and Elizabeth were two different people and her manager is using her as Priscilla. I'll look around see if she's attachd to Kitchen and create a new one if I have to.
posted by Anne B

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