Undocumented Parentage: It may be read in Robert W Barnes' British Roots of Maryland Families[1] that Robert is the son of Robert Thornborough and Catherine Langtree. This is entirely undocumented and Barnes' clearly states his source is an unsourced LDS ancestral pedigree. There are no records found in Ireland or in Lancashire which suggest this parentage other than similarity of the surname. For this reason these parents have been detached and the profile has been protected by Quakers Project to prevent their reintroduction absent primary source documentation.
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The origins of Robert Thornbrough (or Thornborough or other surname variants) are unknown at this time. While it is quite possible that he was from England documentation of his origin has not been found. What we do know is that there was some familial relationship with Edward Thornborough whom Robert's son Thomas called "cousin".
The first references to the Thornbrough [sic] families in Ireland are found in the Lurgan Monthly Meeting (Ulster) minutes which date from 1675 and later.[2] The first mention of Robert Thornbrough is found in the Lurgan Monthly Meeting minutes of 29 Oct 1676: ...William Matthews and Valentine Hollingsworth is desired to speak to Henry Dixon and Robert Thornbrough concerning their walking disorderly.[2] (Note: for those familiar with the family relationships Henry Dixon is the probable father of Rose Dixson who married Thomas Pierson in Delaware 1690. Their two daughters, Susannah and Rose, married two brothers, John and Aaron Mendenhall, son of the immigrant John Mendenhall.)[2] In 1677 it is noted that Robert had "confessed he had done amiss but hoped he would amend for the time to come." Yet on 26 Oct 1680 is another entry where a committee of three is desired to speak to Edward Thornbrough and his wife and Robert Thornbrough about their disorderly behavior in several respects. And so go the references, particularly to Edward, right up until Edward goes to America with Robert's son Thomas in 1717/18. Thomas refers to Edward as his 'cousin.'
Quaker historian and librarian (of Haverford College) Herbert Standing references other records found in the Ulster Province Meeting and writes that the Thornbroughs were affiliated with Cootehillm Monthly Meeting, County Cavan which was one of the oldest meetings in the area. Cootehill operated from 1692 to 1796 (when it became part of Grange Meeting) but the sole surviving minute book (as of 1976) covers only 1766-1792.[3] The Ulster Province Meeting minutes of 8 mo and 7 mo 25 1685 are said to be difficult to read but it is clear they allow Robert Thornton [sic] and Sara Jackson to marry. They appear to indicate he is associated with the meeting at Old Castle and she with that of Cavan (Cootehill). Herbert Standing writes that Sara "could possibly have been a daughter of Anthony Jackson" who settled in County Cavan about 1655 as a member of a group led by William Edmundson.[2]
In papers compiled by E. Howard Drake of the Chester County Historical Society[4] we find in 1713 Robert Thornbrough was cited to the Bishops Court by one Ash, and the Friends of Cootehill and Endenderry Meetings were to go with Robert to see Ash to settle the matter. By the 8th month of 1715 we know that both Robert Thornbrough and James McNeece are imprisoned on account of tythes. By 10th month Friends of Cootehill Meeting in their Epistle advise that they are in hope that Robert Thornbrough will soon be released, being already at liberty but not fully discharged.
Mr Standing did not find record of the death of Robert Thornbrough and none other have been located so all that may be currently said is that he died after 1715.
Known Children
Under Review. Notations will be made under Research Notes until review is completed/
Given that the origins of this family have not yet been found in Lancashire, it has been suggested by a Lancashire researcher to look in Cumberland county.
Edward commonly seen as a son is not documented as a child of Robert and Sarah and has been detached. See the discussion on his profile.
Walter presented listed and attached as son is not documented as a child of Robert and Sarah, he is probably the son of Edward. See the profile.
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Acknowledgement: Thanks to Barbara Smith for this reference.
So, Barnes is presenting no documentation for this and as a pre-1700 profile this would not be acceptable in WikiTree. I have asked the Irish Quakers Team to also have a look at this.
edited by T Stanton
Which is the linkage that is a concern here? Is it Robert Thornborough-4 and his linkage to his children, for example to Edward Thornborough-16? Or, for example, is it Robert Thornborough-4 to his father Charles Thornborough-3?
I’m not sure what happened with the other link that caused the error.
Nowhere has anyone ever found any documentation that Robert is the son of Charles. The connection between Robert and his children is established from a variety of sources but there is nothing which establishes any connection to Lancashire and/or Charles and Catherine.
We know that Edward is a relative but he is not a brother.
Barnes gives a bibliography at the beginning of the section with various codes used later within context. The code used for the section on Robert "Thornburg" is "H" which is explained as: "Undocumented Thornborough Descendancy Chart in Ancestral File of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (must be used with care)." It would appear that the placement of "H" could indicate an issue documenting the children of Robert but that is not considered an issue among Quaker historians such as Herbert Standing. There is also a reference to person (23) in the section but person (23) and the entries there do not appear to be relevant.
Barnes is presenting no documentation for this and as a pre-1700 profile this would not be acceptable in WikiTree.
The Irish Quakers team has looked at this in depth as well. There is no documentation for the parentage which has been removed.