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Joseph Thorne Sr. (aft. 1642 - 1727)

Joseph Thorne Sr.
Born after in Lynn, Massachusettsmap [uncertain]
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married after 1 Feb 1672 in Flushing, New Yorkmap
Husband of — married about 1679 in Flushing, New Yorkmap
Descendants descendants
Died before age 85 in Flushing, Queens, New Yorkmap
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Biography

Joseph was a Friend (Quaker)

Parents marriage took place in 1636 Lynn MA. Joseph Thorne birth date about 1642 is listed in a number of sources. At this time "after 1642" is the best guess. Birth is assumed before his Father had make final choice to move family to newly opened Flushing

William Thorne his father was in the very small group that requested and obtained the rights to a Flushing patent

The year in which William Thorne actually settled in Flushing is not clearly established. From pertinent language in the Indian deed to Flushing (April 14, 1684) it is probable that the actual settlement took place in the fall of 1644 or in the spring of 1645; more likely the later in view of the rigors of the winter season. The first 3 children; William, Joseph, John were probably not born in Flushing, but rather in Lynn MA where William Thorne appears in town records.

Mary Bowne Thorne and husband Joseph were the very first generation born in the New World to legendary founders-leaders of the Flushing Long Island community.

There was huge historic significance to the leadership and sacrifice of Founders and Signers of the Flushing Remonstrance 1657 such as John Bowne, and William Thorne father of Joseph, William Thorne older brother of Joseph, and Edward Farrington brother in law of John Bowne.

The available data suggests that Joseph was successful at growing his property holdings in Flushing area for the family. He was probably still residing in Flushing in 1709 his daughter Mary married John Shotwell Jr., Son Abraham took as his first wife a Shotwell from Plainfield Woodbridge, and 2nd m to Ann Laing in that same community. Joseph and Mary Thorne would have moved to Woodbridge in close proximity to the those married couples and grandchildren.

Birth

Thorne Data Base and the Long Island Genealogy records provide 1642-1643 birth; site is not known, perhaps Lynn, Essex Co., Mass.

Marriages

1st marriage: (license date 01 February 1672). Source: New England Marriages Prior to 1700 (page 739).

2nd marriage: Abt 1679 Flushing Long Island

Children of Joseph and Mary Thorne

1. Mary Thorne, b. 22 Aug 1686 in Flushing, Long Island, NY.d. 1768
2. Hannah Thorne, b. 6 Aug 1680, d. UNKNOWN
3. Joseph Thorne, b. 22 Jul 1682, d. UNKNOWN
4. William Thorne, b. 7 Sep 1683, d. UNKNOWN
5. Susannah Thorne, b. 22 Jan 1685/86, d. UNKNOWN
6. John Thorne, b. 5 Aug 1690, d. UNKNOWN
7. Thomas Thorne, b. 1 Jan 1692/93, d. UNKNOWN
8. Benjamin Thorne, b. 9 Nov 1694, d. UNKNOWN
9. Abraham Thorne, b. 1 Jul 1696, d. UNKNOWN
10. Isaac Thorne, b. 4 Sep 1698, Flushing NY d. 1769,
11. Jacob Thorne, b. 20 Mar 1699/00, d. UNKNOWN
12. Sarah Thorne, b. 20 Nov 1702, d. UNKNOWN


Death of Joseph

Date: 31 MAY 1727 Place: Woodbridge, Middlesex, NJ

Contrary to this data point, there is no evidence Joseph ever lived in New Jersey; in his will of 1724, he mentions "Plantation and homestead where I now live in Flushing". Joseph and Mary witnessed their daughter's will in Flushing meeting on 10d 12m (Feb) 1725/6. Finally, the 1727 probate was in Flushing.

His wife apparently moved to Jersey after he died or was visiting there where she wrote her will in 1728. "While Mary declared herself to be 'of Flushing' in her 20 June 1728 will, death records of the Flushing Monthly Meeting say that she died at Woodbridge [New Jersey] in 1728. She may have been visiting her sons Abraham and Jacob, who were then living at Woodbridge."[1]

Abstracts of Wills

Joseph preceded Mary

I, Joseph Thorne, of Flushing, in Queens County, being aged and indisposed. Being well advised with ye weighty concern I am now about. I leave to my son Benjamin, all my Plantation and homestead where I now live in Flushing, with all housing, orchards, and lands, and all my meadow and woodland. I leave to my wife Mary, the use of 1/2 of all lands and meadows, and 1/2 of all housing and orchards during her life. After he death I leave 1/2 to my son Benjamin and he is to pay legacies, viz.: To his brother Jacob, 100s, and to his brothers, Isaac, Thomas, and Abraham, 20s each. To my son Isaac I leave 5 shillings. I leave to my sons, Thomas, Abraham, and Isaac, all that tract of land lying at a place called (???), in Bucks County, Pennsylvania. I leave to my wife Mary, a negro man, and an Indian woman. To my daughter Sarah, a negro girl. I leave to my son Joseph, 5 shillings over and above what I have formerly given him by deed of gift. I leave to my son William, 5 shillings besides what I gave him in West New Jersey. To my son John, 5 shillings and a negro boy. To my wife Mary, 1/2/ of the rest of my movables. To my daughter, Mary Shadwell, a negro girl. I leave to my daughters, Hanna Field, Mary Shadwell, Susanah Hedger, and Sara Thorn, 1/2/ of my movables. I make my wife and and my son Benjamin, executors. Dated July 27, 1724. Witnesses, Thomas Farrington, Richard Laurence, John Haight. Proved, November 27, 1727. [2]

Research Notes

Armstrong's New Jersey Pioneers quotes extensive primary sources for Joseph, his parents, siblings, and descendants.

Sources

  1. Armstrong, Donald G. New Jersey Pioneers: Twenty-Four Families with New Jersey Immigrants 1676-1705, Their New England Immigrant Ancestors 1630-1662 and Ohio Descendants 1803-1822. Marco Island, Fla: Penobscot Press, 2014, page 518
  2. Pelletreau, William S, 1903, Abstracts of unrecorded wills prior to 1790 on file in the Surrogate's Office, City of New York (New York [N.Y.]: Printed for the [New York Historical] Society, page 13, Joseph Thorne, pgs 60-61, digital image

See Also:

  • The Fones Family, Art Reierson reprinted by Higginson Book Company, Salem MA. WorldCat record
  • New England Marriages Prior to 1700 (page 739).
  • Find A Grave: Memorial #6546847 - unsourced, no picture; picture request already exists
  • Source: S-2127643531 Repository: #R-2127977102 Title: Family Data Collection - Individual Records Author: Edmund West, comp. Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000. Note: APID: 1,4725::0
  • Repository: R-2127977102 Name: Ancestry.com Address: http://www.Ancestry.com Note:
  • Source: S-2127977101 Repository: #R-2127977102 Title: Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members. Note: This information comes from 1 or more individual Ancestry Family Tree files. This source citation points you to a current version of those files. Note: The owners of these tree files may have removed or changed information since this source citation was created. Page: Ancestry Family Trees Note: Data: Text: Ancestry Profile [unsourced]
  • WikiTree profile Thorne-157 created through the import of altic Family Tree.ged on Aug 3, 2011 by Todd Altic.




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Birth is based on conclusions about whether Joseph is 2nd son or third son. Thorne Dickinson et al had summary at this site

Thorne Family Genealogy "Joseph Thorne was born about 1642 in Flushing, Long Island, NY." with the other births in Thorne family, I think it occurred before 1647, Very likely father William had left Lynn by 1643. Biographers don't know whereabouts or exact arrival date in Flushing

Only one place did they ID Joseph as 3rd son, <<Joseph Thorne, a third son of the patentee>>, but may have been a mistake. On the pedigree list he comes up as second son born before John. no birth date given.

posted by Marty Ormond
Thorne-740 and Thorne-120 appear to represent the same person because: Same parents, same siblings, same year of death.
posted by Kenneth Kinman
Thorne-170 and Thorne-120 appear to represent the same person because: same dates and parents
Thorn-151 and Thorne-120 appear to represent the same person because: Similar name, same wife, similar dates
posted by Bob Tonsmeire