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Johann Adam Werner Sr (abt. 1708 - abt. 1775)

Johann Adam (Hans) Werner Sr aka Verner
Born about in Massenbach, Brackenheim, Württemberg, Heiliges Römisches Reichmap [uncertain]
Ancestors ancestors
Son of [uncertain] and [uncertain]
Husband of — married 1 May 1725 in Massenbach, Heilbronn, Württemberg, Heiliges Römisches Reichmap
Descendants descendants
Died about at about age 66 in York County, Pennsylvaniamap
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Biography

"Johann Adam Werner was born before 1707 in Germany. He married Maria Catharina Sigler in Germany, and their older children are recorded in the Evangelische Kirchburch of Massenbach, Schwaigern, Wuerttemburg, Germany. His wife Catharana and their children, John Adam and Catharina eimgrated to America in 1732. The September 18th 1732 passenger list of the galley, Johnson lists each of them by name: Hans Adam Verner (man over 16), his presumed wife, Katharina Verner (woman over 14), presumed son, Adam Verner (boy under 16), and presumed daughter Katharina Verner (Girl under 14).. This is a rare occurence in the records as few ship bothered to list the name of the entire family. This happy occurrence positively identifies the Werner family.
The family members are listed regularly in the church records of St. Georges Lutheran Church in Massenbach, Germany, up to 1731 and completely disappear from the records after that date. (note: St. George was a Catholic saint, however, Massenbach was owned by a petty Luteran noble descended through a knightly order. St George The Dragon Slayer, is traditionally the patron saint of all knights, regardless of their religious affinity.)"
"Adam, the Partiarch of the American Werners and Varners (some of the descendants adopted the spelling VARNER and others remained with WERNER or WARNER) who descend from him became a relatively prosperous farmer in America."
"It is not known when the family moved to Germany Township in Adams County (then York Co.), PA. and the years from 1732 to 1755 are unknown to us. But, aside from his 153 acres, his inventory of personal goods is extensive and includes items of considerable value, such as a smooth bore rifle, a grindstone, 4 books, a cow, and 8 sheep."
"In 1755 as a Highway Commissioner he was responsible for maintenance of roads that were used by farmers to bring their crops to market. This was an important position that was given only to the most responsible of people. It is highly unlikely that Adam was elected to this important position immediately upon arrival in Germany Twp. It is therefore believable that the family had lived there for a number of years and acquired a good reputation before Adam was elected to office."
"Adam also held a number of other elected civil offices. From 1755 on the served consecutive single year terms as Highway Commissioner, Overseer of the Poor, Constable and Tax Collector. Interestingly, in the source of this information, the "Roster of Township Officers, York County, 1749-1800, Adam's surname is spelled "Warner", "Vernor", "Werner" and in 1758 as "Varner", perhaps the earliest, albeit accidental, spelling of the name that was later adopted as the standard spelling of the name by several descending family lines.
"Records of St. Matthew's Lutheran Church in Manheim, York Co., Less than 10 miles north of the Werner farm, a widower name Adam Werner married a single woman named Catharina Weber in 1763. No other church records for Adam or Catharina or birth or marriage records of their children have been found. Adam's will was recorded and executed by his son Jacob, who inherited the bulk of Adam's estate including the farm. Catharina, whether his original spouse or a later spouse was living at the time of Adam's death in June or July of 1775."[1]

Birth

02 Oct 1708 in Massenbach. Johann Adam is the son of Johann Georg Werner and Anna Ursula.[2]

Baptism

27 OCT 1708. Evangelisch-Lutherische,Bad Duerkheim,Pfalz,Bavaria. [3] See Research Note.

Marriage

01 May 1725 in Massenbach. Johann Adam Werner (son of Hans Jerg Werner) with Catharina Barbara (daughter of baker Johann Martin Sigle from Nordheim).[4]

Immigration

Date: 18 Sep 1732
Place: Port of Philadelphia
Ship: The Johnson Galley
From: London, England
Commander: David Crockatt[5][6].
On the ship with Hans Verner (man over 16) are his presumed wife Katarina Verner (woman over 14), son Adam Verner (boy under 16), and daughter Katharina Verner (girl under 14).

Residence

Germany Township, York, Pennsylvania.

Death

26 JUL 1775[7]

Will

Recorded 27 Jul 1775 York County, PA
A transcription of the Will of Adam Warner, AKA Johanes Adam Werner, may be found on page 8 of "The Varner Family of Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia, Alabama and Mississippi", 389 pp. by Kevin W. Davis 2005.
The Will was dated June 20, 1770 and recorded July 27, 1775 in Will Book C, page 302 in York County, Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania Probate Records 1683-1994; FamilySearch
The Will names his son, Jacob Warner as Executor and names his wife, Catherana and other children: George Warner, Christopher Warner, Fronancy (wife of Henry Bruther), John Warner, Catherana (wife of Jacob Founts) and John Adam Warner.

Research note

This person may not belong in the family group. See the text for details.

Conflicting information regarding birth, baptism and marriage places. The Johann Adam who married in Massenbach was from Massenbach (birth) and not from Dürkheim (Baptism). Also the attached mother does not fit to the one born in Massenbach. The supposed son´s birth place also does not seem very likely. Probably several profiles got mixed here. More sources needed.

DNA

Progenitor of Johann "Hans" Adam Werner (born 1708) subgroup in FamilyTreeDNA Varner Surname Project as referenced 10 Jun 2019.

Sources

  1. Website: Descendants of Hans WERNER,Generation No. 4, byAnita Pleasant,, Updated April 27, 2005, Accessed on 10 Jun 2019
  2. Church book Massenbach, Württemberg: Landeskirchliches Archiv Stuttgart > Dekanat Brackenheim > Massenbach > Mischbuch 1701-1752 Band 2 [1]
  3. Ancestry.com Germany, Select Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898 Publication: Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2014
  4. Church book Massenbach, Württemberg: Landeskirchliches Archiv Stuttgart > Dekanat Brackenheim > Massenbach > Mischbuch 1701-1752 Band 2 [2]
  5. Website:[German Pioneers to Pennsylvania, Passenger Ships' Lists, Includes People from the Palatine], By: Donna E. Ristenbatt, as referenced 10 Jun 2019
  6. Ancestry.com U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Publication: Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010 Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Year: 1733; Page Number: 559
  7. Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 20 June 2019), memorial page for Johann Adam Werner (Varner) (2 Sep 1708–26 Jul 1775), Find A Grave Memorial no. Find A Grave: Memorial #81279212, ; Maintained by David Werner (contributor 46795810) Unknown.Germany, York, Pennsylvania, USA.

Acknowledgments

  • Thank you to Robert Warner for creating WikiTree profile Werner-591 through the import of Robert Warner Family Tree.ged on Aug 9, 2013.
  • Thank you to Sheri Havens for creating Varner-233 on 20 Nov 13.




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Werner-3215 and Werner-1184 appear to represent the same person because: Looks to me as if these profiles are for the same person. What do others think? JSC
posted by Jane (Snell) Copes
Werner-3215 and Werner-1184 do not represent the same person because: Thanks for bringing this to our attention but these appear to be different men. The source on Werner-3215 cites a wife Catherine and son John born in 1729. But john did not accompany the family on the Johnson Galley in 1732, so the son of Johann Adam must have been born after that in America.

Also, the baptism cited in Werner-3215 was in Baiersbbronn, southwest of Stuttgart almost to Strasbourg, whereas Johann Adam and family are reported in the Massenbach Church books. Massenbach is well north of Stuttgart on the way to Heidelberg.

There is no evidence that Werner-3215 ever emigrated. So both Sigler-1 and Varner-1413 should be disconnected from him.

posted by Dave Rutherford
If his spouse, Katarina Barbara (Catherine) Varner, died 1764 then who might be the individual mentioned in his 1775 probated will... 'my Loving Wife Catherana...' ??
posted by Mark McKenzie
Varner-3 and Werner-1184 appear to represent the same person because: This is clearly the same person. IMHO the LNOB should be the German spelling because he was born in Germany. Varner is an "Other Name". Please retain most of the bio from Varner-3 in the final profile. Also, the wife and kids need to be merged.
posted by Mark Adams
I suspect that this person may be the ancestor of Adam Peter Varner (aft. 1736) and Susannah (Varner) Flick (abt. 1754 - abt. 1838). Can anyone help me prove or disprove this hunch?
posted by Mark Adams
Werner-1890 and Werner-1184 appear to represent the same person because: potential duplicate
posted by Manuela Thiele
Last name at birth should be Werner.
Werner-1245 and Varner-3 appear to represent the same person because: Clear duplicate.
posted by Erik Granstrom

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